OT Babysitting While Black

[Orion Bailey]

Sorry I gotta call bullshit OB...

The babysitter doesn't owe her SHIT and shouldn't have had to answer the questions in the first place. Can you even try imagine having to go through unimaginable shit like this daily?

See this is the privilege that you enjoy that I do not. This would never happen to you. I DO babysit my little, white, blonde, and redheaded nieces. In public. Maybe once a month I'll have all three of the kids above and we'll go to OMSI and other places. This shit could easily be me one day.

What makes her think she should intervene in their situation? She should mind her goddamn business like she would've if a white child was really being abducted (see the video below). Low and behold who are the ones actually saving the child here?

See, black people in general don't really harm white people. Conversely, we actually protect them. So MFs need to stop being so damn scared...



The actor in the video (doing the abducting) is a well known conservative talking head.

I never said he owed her. IM simply saying, to avoid a conflict he could have had a better reaction. Not saying he is wrong in his reaction, simply saying if we want to put a stop to this, someone has to step up right?

Ive learned when it actually get serious like that, you kill them with kindness. Then they have no ground to stand on. you fight fire with fire regarding racial tension and all it will create is more racial tension.

oh and btw... check out your Renee thread. LMAO!

 

[Propagandist]

To avoid a conflict? Yes. Who wouldn't? (This guy obviously) Why toss fuel on a fire?

Things will never change if someone doesn't take the higher road. Personally I don't have faith in people like her learning from this or taking the higher road, so the only alternative is for the victim to take the high road.

I get what you're saying, and in certain situations I totally agree; I'm often a highroad guy (outside of S2 that is!). Except for this case, and ones like this one, I believe kind of the opposite. If you don't tell people like her to fuck off, then they'll just keep doing the same things. If I was there as one of the witnesses, I'd have likely said something to her myself. You're correcting a wrong. Otherwise, she'll never learn.

 

[Propagandist]

oh and btw... check out your Renee thread. LMAO!

What does this mean?!?

 

[hoopsjock]

I never said he owed her. IM simply saying, to avoid a conflict he could have had a better reaction. Not saying he is wrong in his reaction, simply saying if we want to put a stop to this, someone has to step up right?

Ive learned when it actually get serious like that, you kill them with kindness. Then they have no ground to stand on. you fight fire with fire regarding racial tension and all it will create is more racial tension.

oh and btw... check out your Renee thread. LMAO!

While killing them with kindness works sometimes, what about the cases where someone makes up something to tell the police and they are believed? I'm not sure if it was on this board or not but I read a story about a black man standing next to a white woman on a subway train and the lady yelling at him to stop touching her even though he wasn't. He held his hands up in the air trying to show people that he wasn't doing anything wrong but was fearful that this lady would make something up and he'd be arrested simply because he was black. The guy literally went out of his way to be nice and show that he wasn't doing anything wrong and was still fearful of what this lady could do to her since the police would likely believe her story of the event.

Going back to my earlier example, what if he was their Dad and had to face bullshit like that every time he left the house. Simply being kind would get old real fast, wouldn't it?

 

[Orion Bailey]

I get what you're saying, and in certain situations I totally agree; I'm often a highroad guy (outside of S2 that is!). Except for this case, and ones like this one, I believe kind of the opposite. If you don't tell people like her to fuck off, then they'll just keep doing the same things. If I was there as one of the witnesses, I'd have likely said something to her myself. You're correcting a wrong. Otherwise, she'll never learn.

I dont have faith she will learn either way, but I get your point.

While killing them with kindness works sometimes, what about the cases where someone makes up something to tell the police and they are believed? I'm not sure if it was on this board or not but I read a story about a black man standing next to a white woman on a subway train and the lady yelling at him to stop touching her even though he wasn't. He held his hands up in the air trying to show people that he wasn't doing anything wrong but was fearful that this lady would make something up and he'd be arrested simply because he was black. The guy literally went out of his way to be nice and show that he wasn't doing anything wrong and was still fearful of what this lady could do to her since the police would likely believe her story of the event.

Going back to my earlier example, what if he was their Dad and had to face bullshit like that every time he left the house. Simply being kind would get old real fast, wouldn't it?

Good point about being the father. That would indeed get old quick.

 

[Orion Bailey]

What does this mean?!?

Find the thread, read it and discuss. Dviss is in the title. lol

 

[Hobbesarable]

I dont have faith she will learn either way, but I get your point.



Good point about being the father. That would indeed get old quick.

A person will learn and change if they want to. However, nobody else will be able to do it for them.

Treating a person with kindness will probably result in a better reaction than telling them to "fuck off." Some people are looking for that animosity all the time. Don't feed it.

 

[Natebishop3]

If someone asked me what the initials MR stand for, honestly, I wouldn't think of mentally retarded OR mandatory reporter.

I don't know if I could come up with anything.

 

[Orion Bailey]

If someone asked me what the initials MR stand for, honestly, I wouldn't think of mentally retarded OR mandatory reporter.

I don't know if I could come up with anything.

MR stands for mister. never thought of it any other way.

 

[Orion Bailey]

oh... mom rider.

Lots of mother riders out there too.




NOT making fun D, just trying to make fun.

 

[Hobbesarable]

MR stands for mister. never thought of it any other way.

There are gazillions of acronyms and initialized words. Simply state what you want to say without the acronym or initialized word. Otherwise, you're leaving it up to others to fill it in like Mad Libs. And some will certainly do it to piss you off.

 

[Natebishop3]

MR stands for mister. never thought of it any other way.

Sure, but if you asked me what the initials MR stand for, I don't think I could come up with anything. Or would that be an acronym?

 

[Natebishop3]

There are gazillions of acronyms and initialized words. Simply state what you want to say without the acronym or initialized word. Otherwise, you're leaving it up to others to fill it in like Mad Libs. And some will certainly do it to piss you off.

Half the time I see kids using acronyms that I have to really think to figure out.

 

[Propagandist]

A person will learn and change if they want to. However, nobody else will be able to do it for them.

Treating a person with kindness will probably result in a better reaction than telling them to "fuck off." Some people are looking for that animosity all the time. Don't feed it.

Says the white guy. You're (unsurprisingly) missing the point.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Says the white guy. You're (unsurprisingly) missing the point.

Triggered!

 

[Shaboid]

There are gazillions of acronyms and initialized words. Simply state what you want to say without the acronym or initialized word. Otherwise, you're leaving it up to others to fill it in like Mad Libs. And some will certainly do it to piss you off.

This. I just started a new career and learning all the acronyms for this job sector is effing rediculous. I'll look tomorrow if there is anything that MR stands for. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Propagandist]

Do you want a civil conversation or do you have a quota for behaving like an ass?

No quota.

I think being polite is almost always the way to go, and I was using "fuck off" as a catchall. In a polite, fair world, one should be polite and fair. It's when people cross that line that I really think it is important to call them out. Otherwise, there is no hope.

And this case is complicated on so many levels. Imagine being distrusted and profiled by both strangers and the police. Having it strongly implied you're a kidnapper because you've taken your friend's kids to lunch. And imagine as the police roll up how many times that has gone wrong for people that look like you. Imagine that potential in the air, that stress. White Americans don't have to give their kids "the talk" about the police; most probably don't even know what that is. "The talk" to white Americans is the birds and the bees, and not how to stay alive.

And that's just a sliver of the subtle and overt things going on. People just aren't understanding enough about this stuff, I think. This country is so safe and comfortable for them, maybe, that they just can't imagine this other storyline. And again, I think the only way to bring about change is to call people out.

 

[Hobbesarable]

No quota.

I think being polite is almost always the way to go, and I was using "fuck off" as a catchall. In a polite, fair world, one should be polite and fair. It's when people cross that line that I really think it is important to call them out. Otherwise, there is no hope.

And this case is complicated on so many levels. Imagine being distrusted and profiled by both strangers and the police. Having it strongly implied you're a kidnapper because you've taken your friend's kids to lunch. And imagine as the police roll up how many times that has gone wrong for people that look like you. Imagine that potential in the air, that stress. White Americans don't have to give their kids "the talk" about the police; most probably don't even know what that is. "The talk" to white Americans is the birds and the bees, and not how to stay alive.

And that's just a sliver of the subtle and overt things going on. People just aren't understanding enough about this stuff, I think. This country is so safe and comfortable for them, maybe, that they just can't imagine this other storyline. And again, I think the only way to bring about change is to call people out.

I hear what you are saying. My mother told me about the atrocities she witnessed in the deep south during the 50s and 60s as a child. That's why she raised her sons to like all people regardless of their differences. I don't claim to know the difficulties from one person to another, but I try live peacefully while loving my friends and family.

I've spent many years in China and witnessed the other side of the coin. More so than what most people know about me.

Heck, you might actually like me if you got to know me.

 

[Propagandist]

I hear what you are saying. My mother told me about the atrocities she witnessed in the deep south during the 50s and 60s as a child. That's why she raised her sons to like all people regardless of their differences. I don't claim to know the difficulties from one person to another, but I try live peacefully while loving my friends and family.

I've spent many years in China and witnessed the other side of the coin. More so than what most people know about me.

Heck, you might actually like me if you got to know me.

Same with my mother. North Carolina. I actually spent most of my first decade in this world in South Carolina. When I visit now, it's socially shocking after living in Portland for so many years.

I feel bad now. I'll be nicer (at least to you!); although that dvd thing was just supposed to be a lighthearted joke!

 

[Hobbesarable]

Same with my mother. North Carolina. I actually spent most of my first decade in this world in South Carolina. When I visit now, it's socially shocking after living in Portland for so many years.

I feel bad now. I'll be nicer (at least to you!); although that dvd thing was just supposed to be a lighthearted joke!

It's cool. You just happened to catch me on a bad day. My father lives with me since his second stroke and it hasn't been easy.

 

[CupWizier]

This. I just started a new career and learning all the acronyms for this job sector is effing rediculous. I'll look tomorrow if there is anything that MR stands for. I wouldn't be surprised.

The company I worked for was a distributor of Chevron oil and chemical products and it seemed Chevron never used words and instead used initials especially when describing a position in the company. It's almost like they needed to hand out cards with the initials and actual meaning to understand in some of the meetings.

 

[jlprk]

I hear what you are saying. My mother told me about the atrocities she witnessed in the deep south during the 50s and 60s as a child. That's why she raised her sons to like all people regardless of their differences. I don't claim to know the difficulties from one person to another, but I try live peacefully while loving my friends and family.

I've spent many years in China and witnessed the other side of the coin. More so than what most people know about me.

Heck, you might actually like me if you got to know me.

No way! A thousand times no!

 

[Chris Craig]

MR means mentally retarded.


Not the most "PC" term nowadays.

Never heard it abbreviated like that...I thought mandatory reporter when I read it.

 

[Lanny]

While killing them with kindness works sometimes, what about the cases where someone makes up something to tell the police and they are believed? I'm not sure if it was on this board or not but I read a story about a black man standing next to a white woman on a subway train and the lady yelling at him to stop touching her even though he wasn't. He held his hands up in the air trying to show people that he wasn't doing anything wrong but was fearful that this lady would make something up and he'd be arrested simply because he was black. The guy literally went out of his way to be nice and show that he wasn't doing anything wrong and was still fearful of what this lady could do to her since the police would likely believe her story of the event.

Going back to my earlier example, what if he was their Dad and had to face bullshit like that every time he left the house. Simply being kind would get old real fast, wouldn't it?

That's when the police do their job and investigate. That is what we pay them to do.

 

[Hoopguru]

Never heard it abbreviated like that...I thought mandatory reporter when I read it.

Growing up young people would use that a lot which was wrong.

Funny, Ive never ever heard of mandatory reporter? What does it even mean?

 

[hoopsjock]

That's when the police do their job and investigate. That is what we pay them to do.

Well Lanny, that is why this is a huge issue. Some cops will believe whatever the white woman says in this situation 100% of the time. The cops shouldn't have even been called.

 

[Lanny]

Same with my mother. North Carolina. I actually spent most of my first decade in this world in South Carolina. When I visit now, it's socially shocking after living in Portland for so many years.

I feel bad now. I'll be nicer (at least to you!); although that dvd thing was just supposed to be a lighthearted joke!

Okay, if you're gonna get into it, my mom and I are from Georgia and my dad was from Alabama. My dad told me stories about how African-Americans were treated that would curl your toes.

Here's a little side note that I may have told before but I just can't remember. My Aunt on mom's side was the babysitter for Margaret Mitchell. When Gone With the Wind opened in Atlanta, in the viewing crowd was the cast and my Aunt and her brother, my Uncle. My Aunt and Uncle also got to go to a party afterwards along with the cast, Clark Gable, Vivien Leigh, Leslie Howard, Olivia De Havilland.

 

[Chris Craig]

Growing up young people would use that a lot which was wrong.

Funny, Ive never ever heard of mandatory reporter? What does it even mean?

I've heard the term used just never abbreviated.

A mandatory reporter is someone who is bound by the law to report Child Abuse 24/7, whether at work, home, the store, etc. Being a Teacher I am one.

 

[Hoopguru]

I've heard the term used just never abbreviated.

A mandatory reporter is someone who is bound by the law to report Child Abuse 24/7, whether at work, home, the store, etc. Being a Teacher I am one.

Thanks.
My wife taught elementary for 40 years and I never heard that term.
I guess I'm never to old to learn.
She a number of times had to report abuse.
What grade do you teach?

 

[Chris Craig]

Thanks.
My wife taught elementary for 40 years and I never heard that term.
I guess I'm never to old to learn.
She a number of times had to report abuse.
What grade do you teach?

Headstart