Barton

[Pinwheel1]

He's going to be 22 in about a week and he's putting up a sub-8 PER as a rookie.

Has he done some nice things? Absolutely. Has he been one of the least efficient players in the NBA so far? Yes.

He's not a good shooter and he doesn't seem to do any one thing particularly well. I guess I just don't see much to get excited about.

Ed O.

No offense but it is statements like this that make me cringe every time I read "PER". Why would we put any credence in any rookie's PER the first part of his rookie season? It tells us about as much as his PER did tonight. (Which had to be pretty good while shooting 5-10 from the field, 6 rebounds, 1 steal and 2 blocks in 24 minutes)

Granted he looked horrible his first few games (which is pretty common for rookies) but he has looked pretty good the last few. Odds are he will be very inconsistent the whole year. Like all rookies including the rookie of the year.
But I would throw out his PER if you are trying to evaluate him.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Has he been one of the least efficient players in the NBA so far? Yes.

Least efficient in the NBA? There's five players less efficient than him on our team and as of this afternoon, 65 players in the NBA less efficient than him. Yeah, it's not like he's in the middle of the pack, but if you want to point the "one of the least efficient players in the NBA" finger, point it at the right players on our team, please.

 

[HailBlazers]

You can't measure Scrappy with Stats.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

You can't measure Scrappy with Stats.

What about Scooby?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Barton's PER is now 8.7 after his game against LA (up from 7.8 yesterday afternoon); for fun I searched for active players who had rookie PERs between 8 and 9.

http://bkref.com/tiny/n1wps

An interesting name pops up: Jamal Crawford.

 

[Blazinaway]

Barton's PER is now 8.7 after his game against LA (up from 7.8 yesterday afternoon); for fun I searched for active players who had rookie PERs between 8 and 9.

http://bkref.com/tiny/n1wps

An interesting name pops up: Jamal Crawford.

what I like from Barton is so far how quickly he is "reigning in his wildness" yet still remaining agressive, if this is sustained and he keeps improving he will have been a great pick at #40 whatever.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

not alot of all stars on that list but some good players

 

[BBert]

All star? Will Barton? The Will Barton that plays for the Blazers?

I doubt he'll be a starter on a playoff team. Where we picked him and what I've seen so far I'd be happy if he turned into a solid sub on a playoff team two years from now.

 

[jlprk]

There are no all-stars on that list. Sorry, mgb. Sasha Pavlovic and Jerryd Bayless are on the list.

I chronologized it. Why is there no one in 1979-2000, then suddenly many players?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

There are no all-stars on that list. Sorry, mgb. Sasha Pavlovic and Jerryd Bayless are on the list.

I chronologized it. Why is there no one in 1979-2000, then suddenly many players?

Only active players Set the Active tag to "either" to get the full list.

EDIT: here you go. http://bkref.com/tiny/C9Edq

A couple more interesting names in there: Allan Houston, Corliss Williamson. And of course Devin Durrant, who the Blazers should have taken over Oreg Odden that year.

 

[bemac]

Considering he has just started to contribute and on the rise, is it not a bit too early to be talking his rooking season PER? Based on what he is doing, and how is PER is rising.....He could easily be in the 10-12 range when all is said and done. I would actually expect him to be. He is showing he is a contributor....God, I would love to have him and Elliot providing offense off this bench.

Just to add to this a bit....

The guy has made the mistake of trying to do something to get a little attention in his games with limited minutes. This seems to have changed in the past few games, as many have noticed that he is far more controlled in his play. Stat wise, over 20 minutes, 11/3/1 per game and climbing.

 

[jlprk]

Only active players Set the Active tag to "either" to get the full list.

EDIT: here you go. http://bkref.com/tiny/C9Edq

A couple more interesting names in there: Allan Houston, Corliss Williamson. And of course Devin Durrant, who the Blazers should have taken over Oreg Odden that year.

Thanks, I missed the 2-word parameter "is active." Houston was later an all-star, so mgb may be right.

is it not a bit too early to be talking his rooking season PER?...He could easily be in the 10-12 range when all is said and done.

Yes, we're unfairly comparing full rookie seasons to his early one.