Batum: "I Will Play Monday"

[handiman]

Allowing Batum to go through heavy contact his first day back is eerily similar to allowing Webster to return when his foot clearly was not healed, in hindsight. Someone is not exercising sufficient caution... They see a return date circled on the calendar and treat it as a green light instead of the blinking yellow it really is. I'm just not sure where the pressure is coming from.

 

[STOMP]

Allowing Batum to go through heavy contact his first day back is eerily similar to allowing Webster to return when his foot clearly was not healed, in hindsight. Someone is not exercising sufficient caution... They see a return date circled on the calendar and treat it as a green light instead of the blinking yellow it really is. I'm just not sure where the pressure is coming from.

you really think this is his first day doing anything? I see plenty of wiggle room in the telling of this story that he could have been doing all sorts of different baby steps to ramp up to some 2 on 2. We know he's been shooting the ball a lot via Monte Williams, and I expect they've had him doing all sorts of drills/workouts for weeks.

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[Nikolokolus]

I would think gradually building up the level of contact until he started to experience pain would have been better than having a bigger, stronger player hammer on him and immediately cause pain (the 2-on-2 was stopped after two minutes due to pain in the shoulder). A gradually increasing level of contact would be less likely to re-injure the shoulder than a binary step function from no conact to extreme contact.

BNM

How exactly do you "build up" contact though? Running through a screen is running through a screen. Let's say you take it easy in a practice and then greenlight him and then throw him into a live game situation and he gets clobbered at full speed and comes out lame, what's the difference?

I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's as easy as you suggest to ramp up the level of contact you are taking. Going full speed in practice isn't likely to re-injure the shoulder, but it will give you a good idea of how much pain is still there and whether or not the player is able to play through it.

 

[handiman]

you really think this is his first day doing anything?

Not first day doing anything, first day of full contact. That doesn't mean stress test the hell out of it right off the bat...

 

[STOMP]

Not first day doing anything, first day of full contact. That doesn't mean stress test the hell out of it right off the bat...

well they didn't stress the hell out of it... dude got banged around some to make sure he was good to go. Nothing flared up so he is and we're supposed to see him tonight

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[handiman]

well they didn't stress the hell out of it... dude got banged around some to make sure he was good to go. Nothing flared up so he is and we're supposed to see him tonight

STOMP

If he had to stop early in his first session, I would say they did overstress it right off the bat.

 

[Boob-No-More]

well they didn't stress the hell out of it... dude got banged around some to make sure he was good to go. Nothing flared up so he is and we're supposed to see him tonight

Wrong - he had to quit two minutes into the 2-on-2 due to pain in the shoulder after getting clobbered by Pendergraph.

Obviously (hopefully), there wasn't any permanent damage, but it still seems risky.

BNM

 

[STOMP]

Wrong - he had to quit two minutes into the 2-on-2 due to pain in the shoulder after getting clobbered by Pendergraph.

where are you getting the idea he quit after only two minutes? That doesn't seem to be in the article. That he quit out of concern isn't bad per say... some amount of tentativeness and tenderness is to be expected following a surgery and a real workout. He gave it a real test and predictably it hurt some. What wasn't known was how it be doing the next day. That it wasn't sore is a great sign.

Obviously (hopefully), there wasn't any permanent damage, but it still seems risky.

seems consistent with the sort of rehab advice I received following a couple of bad car accidents I came back from. Sometimes you've got to push the body to see where it's at.

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[ABM]

where are you getting the idea he quit after only two minutes

That's what Quick had said on one of the radio programs the other Day. Actually, he said that Batum slinked off the court (shoulder drooping) with the score at 4-3...and the other guys going, "Whaa?"

 

[Boob-No-More]

That's what Quick had said on one of the radio programs the other Day. Actually, he said that Batum slinked off the court (shoulder drooping) with the score at 4-3...and the other guys going, "Whaa?"

Yep, that's where I heard it. However, checking the blogs (Barett's and Freeman's) it appears that may not be 100% accurate (who would have thunk).

BNM

 

[ABM]

Tonight, I'd love to hear, even just once, "Ba-TUM-shaka-laka!!!"

 

[STOMP]

That's what Quick had said on one of the radio programs the other Day. Actually, he said that Batum slinked off the court (shoulder drooping) with the score at 4-3...and the other guys going, "Whaa?"

ahhh that explains it. I deliberately avoid anything produced by JQ for reasons I'm sure ya'll can guess.

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[BrianFromWA]

With Brandon out, is there anyone on the board that would rather see Batum and Webster at the 2/3 (hopefully with Miller) than having, say, Blake or Rudy in at the 2 and Batum or Webster at the 4? Or is it a strict, "one-of-the-two-and-one-only will be in the game playing SF only" thing?

 

[bintim]

Batum is lookin' good. How about that second unit?

 

[BBert]

Well, he played all right. The French George Gervin. Go Nico!!

 

[HOWIE]

I thought that Batum played a nice game with that long of a lay off. Batum is a keeper and a top rotation player. We really missed him and should be a lot better once he works himself back into game shape. Not sure how I feel about him playing the 4, but it would make Outlaw expendable.

 

[STOMP]

I thought that Batum played a nice game with that long of a lay off. Batum is a keeper and a top rotation player. We really missed him and should be a lot better once he works himself back into game shape. Not sure how I feel about him playing the 4, but it would make Outlaw expendable.

he's basically the same size as Webster and a half size smaller then Travis... who many posters contend is undersized guarding 4s. I like the idea of Martell or NB on 4s less then I like TO there... but of course next year brings the possibilities of both Freeman and Claver

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