Batum trade revisited

[BBert]

I don't buy this at all. Nic isn't putting up huge numbers that he couldn't get in Stotts system.

He's at 14/6/6

We'll all be ecstatic if Harkless can give us 12/6/2

 

[Schilly]

We'll all be ecstatic if Harkless can give us 12/6/2

You mean about what he gives us per 36?

 

[Schilly]

Harkless per 36
12.4/7.0/1.7

 

[BBert]

You mean about what he gives us per 36?

I'll be pretty happy if Harkless improves his shooting and his consistency next year, plays good defense, and earns the starting SF spot. I might even forget all about this Batum argument.

 

[Natebishop3]

"You're not going to win! I'm gonna make stuff up and announce it as fact!!!!!"

CJ would play better coming off the bench!!!!!

 

[dviss1]

Hypotheticals? You guys are trippin' with that CJ wouldn't get his minutes bull. He'd get his minutes because he's CJ. He's the 10th pick and we'd give him every opportunity to shine. Plus, how does CJ NOT get 30 mins off the bench with this 9 man rotation?

Dame/CJ
Batum/CJ/Crabbe
Harkless/Crabbe/Batum
Aminu/Leonard
Plumlee/Davis

 

[dviss1]

Because that's the entire basis of their argument. Hypotheticals and excluding a key component to the argument.

When trying to determine the answer to the question one has to use hypotheticals. You have to use hypotheticals to prove me wrong. Hypotheticals such as the bull crap that CJ wouldn't get his 30 minutes per game.

 

[Strenuus]

When trying to determine the answer to the question one has to use hypotheticals. You have to use hypotheticals to prove me wrong. Hypotheticals such as the bull crap that CJ wouldn't get his 30 minutes per game.

So in essence, we're having to hypothetical your hypothetical, but really, it was you who started the hypothetical, so we had to, because that was the only reason.

And you never know if CJ would do well coming off the bench. That's an assumption, not a hindsight fact.

 

[jlprk]

If PapaG were still here, this feuding thread would have turned bitter and ugly long ago. Nowadays, even threads like this maintain a light touch.

 

[STOMP]

I'm saying CJ off the bench at the 1-2 spots with Batum and Dame is a hell of a guard rotation.

thats been my repeated claim too. A defensive squad like Draco listed, featuring Davis Harkless Aminu & Batum gives them 4 long quick versatile guys who can switch on to most anyone, block passing lanes and defend the 3 point line. Thats where the game is headed these days.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Hendo has been a huge contributor for our bench.

Sorry, no. 12.9 PER for Hendo this year... 15.0 PER is the mean NBA player.

the form on his jumper is Jordan-esk, but then he draws only rim. Great looking athlete, not so great results. To my eyes thats always been the case for him.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

Or we don't know what we have in CJ and he doesn't blossom like he does.

Huh? The end of last season didn't convince you?

In CJ's first game of this season he had 37 points. He didn't slowly hone his confidence and skills against the competition. Finally 100% he played ball like he was capable of. Of course if there are more good players on a team guys have to defer & blend so the team can maximize their collective potential, but thats a good problem to have... Portland's problem is certainly not having too many good players. They need more passers, more wing defenders & generally more talent if they're to compete with the best.

STOMP

 

[STOMP]

CJ would play better coming off the bench!!!!!

for the most part players play to the ability they're capable of regardless of their starting status. CJ & Dame as a backcourt combo score a lot & give up a lot in part because they're one of, if not the smallest starting backcourt in the league. Their backups are nothing special. Whats the issue with having a solid 3 guard rotation?

STOMP

 

[AquaXI]

Great argument on both sides as I learn from you all from all angles. Seems its not as divided and more united at the Hornets nest as I check their sites to Gage the Batum Homerism. They can't wait to sign him long term. The moving parts of the trade with adding Aminu and also developing Harkless not to mention CJs increased roll was all great moves and Vision on the part of Olshey in putting together this Winning puzzle. All in all knock on wood( with a victory) we are once again a 5th seed when experts predicted us to be the bottom of the barrel. Hopefully our FA this year will net a big man and we will soon be saying Batum who? And ordering Freedom Fries. Thanks for the insight!

 

[dviss1]

So in essence, we're having to hypothetical your hypothetical, but really, it was you who started the hypothetical, so we had to, because that was the only reason.

And you never know if CJ would do well coming off the bench. That's an assumption, not a hindsight fact.

You started it!

Sometimes you guys sound like kids. The whole friggin' thread is full of hypothetical assumptions yet I'm the only one that is held accountable for the hypotheticals....

GTFO.