Batum

[KingSpeed]

Wasn't he, at one point, behind Kidd and KJ? I seem to recall Phoenix having all thee point guards at one point.
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Yes

 

[julius]

little late to the slogan game, but here is my entry.


"wait with us"

 

[KingSpeed]

Here's Batum's third season compared to Pippen's third season... this is a link you can bookmark and compare after each game Batum plays. Specifically, watch the Per36 and Advanced Stats areas.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=geHkq

There's a gaping difference in assists and steals. Pippen was a playmaker. And a better defender.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

For a while now whenever I watch Nico I keep thinking of him as our Bobby Gross. A longer, more athletic Bobby Gross. Gross was a player who would get the rebound on one end, run the floor, and score on the fast break on the other. Nico does that all the time after he gets a block or a rebound or a steal, and he did it last night. Gross was one of my favorite Blazers ever and Nico is my favorite Blazer now. Playing in the shadows of Walton and Lucas and Hollins, Gross was an MVP role player -- we would not have won the championship without him. Nico will be that or better, depending on who he has for teammates. Last night, Melo gave Nico a number of elbows, and Nico is not phased. He just keeps dogging you with his calm demeaner. On the play you mentioned, Melo have him a pretty good elbow bump, Nico got back in position, and drew the charge. Play of the game and the game winner, IMO.

+1

My sentiments exactly. I even wore #30 in high school because my favorite player was Gross. I now own THE jersey he wore in game 6, when we won the Championship! (gift from my Dad.)

 

[cdub503]

thats gnarly!! cant imagine how much that was... is it signed?

 

[RoyToy]

There's a gaping difference in assists and steals. Pippen was a playmaker. And a better defender.

They're pretty much completely different players. The comparison makes no sense.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

They're pretty much completely different players. The comparison makes no sense.

This is what I've been thinking since people started saying that.. I don't remember much about Pippen but Batum doesn't really seem much like him.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

There's a gaping difference in assists and steals. Pippen was a playmaker. And a better defender.

By this point, the Bulls were running Pippen at the point in the triangle offense, so of course there is going to be a discrepency in assists.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

For a while now whenever I watch Nico I keep thinking of him as our Bobby Gross. A longer, more athletic Bobby Gross. Gross was a player who would get the rebound on one end, run the floor, and score on the fast break on the other. Nico does that all the time after he gets a block or a rebound or a steal, and he did it last night. Gross was one of my favorite Blazers ever and Nico is my favorite Blazer now. Playing in the shadows of Walton and Lucas and Hollins, Gross was an MVP role player -- we would not have won the championship without him. Nico will be that or better, depending on who he has for teammates. Last night, Melo gave Nico a number of elbows, and Nico is not phased. He just keeps dogging you with his calm demeaner. On the play you mentioned, Melo have him a pretty good elbow bump, Nico got back in position, and drew the charge. Play of the game and the game winner, IMO.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=VR3dW

Batum versus Gross for their 3rd seasons. I'm amazed at how similar the stat lines are (I am too young to have ever seen Gross).

 

[Boob-No-More]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=VR3dW

Batum versus Gross for their 3rd seasons. I'm amazed at how similar the stat lines are (I am too young to have ever seen Gross).

Other than AST% and TOV%, the advanced stats are VERY close. Gross had twice the AST% of Batum, but also 2.5x the TOV%.

BNM

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Batum is being used at the beginning and end of a bunch of 3-4 pass plays, so it makes sense that his AST stats are low (I'd say artificially so, not that he can't pass)

 

[Boob-No-More]

Batum is being used at the beginning and end of a bunch of 3-4 pass plays, so it makes sense that his AST stats are low (I'd say artificially so, not that he can't pass)

Things were a lot different in 1977-78 than in 2010-11. That 58-win Blazer team averaged 107.7 PPG. That sounds like a lot of points by today's standards (10.1 more PPG game than this year's Blazers at 97.6 PPG), but they were 18th of 22 teams in pace that season.

Dr. Jack's motion offense involved a lot more ball movement and player movement than Nate's slow it down, grind it out, milk the shot clock iso centric offense. So, that leads to more assists and more turnovers.

BNM

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Things were a lot different in 1977-78 than in 2010-11. That 58-win Blazer team averaged 107.7 PPG. That sounds like a lot of points by today's standards (10.1 more PPG game than this year's Blazers at 97.6 PPG), but they were 18th of 22 teams in pace that season.

Dr. Jack's motion offense involved a lot more ball movement and player movement than Nate's slow it down, grind it out, milk the shot clock iso centric offense. So, that leads to more assists and more turnovers.

BNM

I do remember the old pace from the late 80's/early 90's teams, before Shaq came into the league; lots of quick shots. I also imagine that, without a 3pt line, a lot of shots were closer in and less risky too, since tossing a long bomb was only worth 2 points.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

So, who else went?

Here's a photo of my youngest with her all-time favorite Blazer:

BNM

Very cute girl . . . I bet she has you wrapped around her little finger.

I know that hat . . . opening night 2008.

How long was the line to get the signature?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Very cute girl . . . I bet she has you wrapped around her little finger.

Thanks. Yes, she does. Not only is she a great kid, but a HUGE Blazers fan.

I know that hat . . . opening night 2008.

Yep, I took all three kids and we sat in the 12th row (thanks to free tickets from a friend who happens to be an NBA referee). So, we have four of those hats. That's actually a pretty subdued look for Tiny McMighty. She usually does the face painting, pompons, big signs, etc. to try to get on the jumbotron screen (her career best is 7 times at one game - which isn't bad considereing were sitting in the upper deck).

How long was the line to get the signature?

We got there about 12:45 and waited in line about an hour an 15 minutes before she got to meet Nic. He signed her Blazers Christmas ornament and gave he an autographed picture. He also gave her a hug. She was so nervous and excited to meet him, when it was her turn she started crying. Nic gave her a big hug and said "No cry, no cry" with his French accent. No wonder the ladies like him. He's a genuinely nice guy. It was definitely worth the wait.

There were still a LOT of people in line behind us. We were probably at about the 1/3 point in the over all line. They stopped letting people queue up as we were leaving at about 2:00pm.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Bobby Gross couldn't block shots and dunk like Nic though.