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Oh a whole steal. Wow start that guy right away! Woohooo a whole steal!! That sure makes up for the multiple times he switched on to Dirk and got jacked.

I was responding to this lie: Seeing him getting his pocket picked repeatedly tonight was embarrassing to say the least.

Like most of the haters, complete fiction.

Bayless and Roy were the only ones getting their pockets picked, as usual.
 
We lost quite badly tonight, and Bayless got completely schooled over and over and over, so I don't see your point.

The difference between Sergio and Bayless is that Bayless also takes the opposing team "to school." Sergio just lets the opposing guards get a breather on the defensive end.
 
Yea, he's white guy getting absolutely destroyed by both Kidd and Barea. For the 2nd straight game vs. the Mavs I'd like to add.

I'm starting to get the feeling that MARIS61 is Sergio's agent or something since that the only possible justification I can find for defending his abysmal play.

I already said that, and what a shitty agent Sergio has. Scouring a message board, and challenging people that have nothing to do with the fortune of your client. Hahahaha......

Seriously. Maris is just fighting because he cannot admit any fault within his basketball mind. Whatever. I'm getting close to using the ignore feature for the first time in my internet life. How exciting!
 
Maybe you're confused.

Sergio is the white guy who had 1 TO, and a steal to offset it.

Bayless and Roy are the black guys who had 4 TO's and 5 TO's, and 0 steals combined.

Or maybe you're talking about some other game in some bizarro world.:crazy:

Skin color is irrelevant . But hey, when you have no other rational argument, you might as well play the race card. Right, what other reason could possibly explain why Sergio only got 14 minutes of PT to Jerryd's 34 and Brandon's 40? I mean, it couldn't have possibly have been because Sergio stunk again tonight for the second straight game. Nope, Nate's a racist who favors the "black guys". He only plays Joel because he's a good dancer and Blake because he likes watermelon.

Sergio is the guy who had ONE assist tonight, for the second straight game. He's also the guy who has more TOs (3) than assists (2) over the last two games. Bayless is the guy who has 10 assists and 4 TOs over those same two games He also has 33 points on 13 - 18 shooting compared to Sergios 11 points on 5 - 11 shooting.

BNM
 
Repost: guess the game thread ends after the game (duh)

Someone tell me how effective Blake is playing with Rudy, Outlaw, Pryzbilla?

His 3 worst 5-man units (by win %) are:
#1) Blake/Rudy/Outlaw/LMA/Przy
#2) Blake/Rudy/Outlaw/LMA/Oden
#3) Our starters

Seems he plays best with Roy and Przy. If Bayless starts, (which I think he should, personally), playing Blake with the reserves will be like playing Sergio with the starters.
http://www.82games.com/0809/08POR1.HTM#5man
 
Amazes me some of you still read MARIS' crap. He obviously doesn't watch NBA basketball, and he has even admitted so. MARIS only knows Sergio basketball, whatever the hell that is. I put him on my ignore list long ago, and I still have to read his crap when you guys quote him.

:lol: good point.
 
I was responding to this lie: Seeing him getting his pocket picked repeatedly tonight was embarrassing to say the least.

Like most of the haters, complete fiction.

Bayless and Roy were the only ones getting their pockets picked, as usual.

You obviously didn't even watch the game, as Roy and Bayless were called for questionable travel calls and offensive fouls.

Not surprised, since you take Sergio and shut out everything else.
 
I'm all for Bayless to start. I get the feeling that he will really start to polish up with more playing time. We have seen him improve in leaps and bounds over the last few weeks, and I'm confident that he will continue to show consistent improvement with more playing time.

Start the guy and watch him blossom, I say.
 
Yea, he's white guy getting absolutely destroyed by both Kidd and Barea. For the 2nd straight game vs. the Mavs I'd like to add.

Here's the problem with just making shit up.

The NBA actually documents each play, and assuming you aren't afraid to read the truth, you'll see it was Bayless and Roy who got buttraped all night long.

Sergio was watching their 9 turnovers and the approximate 40 points they gave up from the bench.

http://www.nba.com/games/20090204/PORDAL/playbyplay.html

Kidd never scored on Sergio. Not even a FT. He scored all 7 pts, and most of his assists against Bayless.

Barea scored 4 pts against Sergio. He scored his other 2 points on Bayless.

So the truth is Sergio scored 5 pts and gave up 4 pts.

Terry, the actual difference-maker in this game, scored all 20 of his points against Bayless.
 
Amazes me some of you still read MARIS' crap. He obviously doesn't watch NBA basketball, and he has even admitted so. MARIS only knows Sergio basketball, whatever the hell that is. I put him on my ignore list long ago, and I still have to read his crap when you guys quote him.

I blocked him long ago.
 
Repost: guess the game thread ends after the game (duh)

Someone tell me how effective Blake is playing with Rudy, Outlaw, Pryzbilla?

His 3 worst 5-man units (by win %) are:
#1) Blake/Rudy/Outlaw/LMA/Przy
#2) Blake/Rudy/Outlaw/LMA/Oden
#3) Our starters

Seems he plays best with Roy and Przy. If Bayless starts, (which I think he should, personally), playing Blake with the reserves will be like playing Sergio with the starters.
http://www.82games.com/0809/08POR1.HTM#5man

We're 7-3 with Sergio starting.

Bake it!
 
Just for grins here are their averages for the past ten games:

Bayless:
MPG: 23.2
PPG: 11
APG: 2.8
TO: 2.2
FG% 53%
FGA 64
FGM 34
3PT% 30% (3/10)
FT% 87%
FTA 45
FTM 39

Steals: .5
Rebounds 2.1

Sergio:
MPG: 20.8
PPG: 6.5
APG: 5.0
TO: 1.7

FG% 42%
FGA: 61
FGM 26
3PT% 31% (6/19)
FT% 70%
FTA 10
FTM 7
Steals: .7
Rebounds 2.5

Read that however you like, but it's hardly the "huge advantage" for Sergio that Maris would have us think it is.
 
Here's the problem with just making shit up.

The NBA actually documents each play, and assuming you aren't afraid to read the truth, you'll see it was Bayless and Roy who got buttraped all night long.

Sergio was watching their 9 turnovers and the approximate 40 points they gave up from the bench.

http://www.nba.com/games/20090204/PORDAL/playbyplay.html

Kidd never scored on Sergio. Not even a FT. He scored all 7 pts, and most of his assists against Bayless.

Barea scored 4 pts against Sergio. He scored his other 2 points on Bayless.

So the truth is Sergio scored 5 pts and gave up 4 pts.

Terry, the actual difference-maker in this game, scored all 20 of his points against Bayless.
you do realize that the play by play doesn't tell you who was defending each player when they scored, right?

like when terry is in the game along with kidd or barea for dallas and bayless is playing for portland, you've decided to somehow count all those points against bayless. now if he was guarding 2 players all game, no wonder why they scored so many points "on him".

and you say that terry scored all 20 of his points "on bayless". so when terry shot the technical free throw(the t wasn't on bayless of course), that point counts against bayless?
 
Just for grins here are their averages for the past ten games:

Bayless:
MPG: 23.2
PPG: 11
APG: 2.8
TO: 2.2
FG% 53%
FGA 64
FGM 34
3PT% 30% (3/10)
FT% 87%
FTA 45
FTM 39

Steals: .5
Rebounds 2.1

Sergio:
MPG: 20.8
PPG: 6.5
APG: 5.0
TO: 1.7

FG% 42%
FGA: 61
FGM 26
3PT% 31% (6/19)
FT% 70%
FTA 10
FTM 7
Steals: .7
Rebounds 2.5

Read that however you like, but it's hardly the "huge advantage" for Sergio that Maris would have us think it is.

The FT stats are staggering. Bayless is proving that the summer league wasn't a fluke. He can get to the line with the best of them.
 
You obviously didn't even watch the game, as Roy and Bayless were called for questionable travel calls and offensive fouls.

Yeah, right. Everybody's picking on Roy and Bayless. Poor kids can't buy a break. :sigh:

I watched, although it was painful and embarrassing.

They were clumsy, lazy, and slow, like they'd rather be watching a movie than competing. They looked like they were stat-packing and ignoring their teammates. They telegraphed their passes, and were not physical at all.

I thought the refs were quite fair.
 
Terry, the actual difference-maker in this game, scored all 20 of his points against Bayless.


I specifically remember Terry hitting a fall-away jumper 1 on 1 over Aldridge after he and Bayless switched (surprise!) off a P&R. That was in the five minute span that I got to watch. Something tells me there were other examples.

Half the time I don't know what our plan is on defense. That's the biggest area the team needs to work on. On one side of the floor we've got Dirk posting our PG up, and on the other we've got Oden rushing out to block a 3-pointer from a wide-open Terry. That's a recipe for distaster against the better teams.
 
You know, Sergio has had the starting spot for... what..... two weeks now? What has he done with it? This was his chance to shine and I haven't seen anything that would knock my socks off. I say give the kid a shot and see what he can do with it. It's only fair.
 
I specifically remember Terry hitting a fall-away jumper 1 on 1 over Aldridge after he and Bayless switched (surprise!) off a P&R. That was in the five minute span that I got to watch. Something tells me there were other examples.

Half the time I don't know what our plan is on defense. That's the biggest area the team needs to work on. On one side of the floor we've got Dirk posting our PG up, and on the other we've got Oden rushing out to block a 3-pointer from a wide-open Terry. That's a recipe for distaster against the better teams.

They are playing a zone in those situations.
 
I blocked him long ago.

Yes, opposing viewpoints frighten posters such as NateBishop.

He feels the need to not only let people know who he has blocked, but to also PM them and telling them to "deal with it". LMAO
 
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By the way, Terry got a ton of his points on the fast break.
 
Yeah, right. Everybody's picking on Roy and Bayless. Poor kids can't buy a break. :sigh:

I watched, although it was painful and embarrassing.

They were clumsy, lazy, and slow, like they'd rather be watching a movie than competing. They looked like they were stat-packing and ignoring their teammates. They telegraphed their passes, and were not physical at all.

I thought the refs were quite fair.

Just once I want to see you honestly critique Sergio's game ... just once.
 
So? Right now we have a 3rd year player starting who also makes rookie mistakes. At least the rookie has enough upside and does enough other things to warrant his PT.

Our "starting" PG has a whopping 2 assists in the last two games. His "back-up" has 10. His "back-up" has also out scored him 33 to 11 and has out rebounded him 6 to 1. Bayless has a combined EFF of 39 for the last two games. Sergio's is 6. It's painfully obvious who the better player is.

Exactly.
 
We lost quite badly tonight, .

We lost by 5. The Mavericks had to actually make FTs in the final seconds to secure the victory. I don't see why everyone thinks it was some horrible blowout. It wasn't.
 
i'm all for starting bayless, and i'm one of the few sergio supporters in here. sergio seems to run better in the second unit and bayless in the first anyways. chalk it up to another dumb move by nate.

now i'll get blasted because we're 30-18 and how dare i question nate, funny that winning cures all.
 
We lost by 5. The Mavericks had to actually make FTs in the final seconds to secure the victory. I don't see why everyone thinks it was some horrible blowout. It wasn't.

We outscored them in 3 out of the 4 quarters. It was just one bad quarter.
 
We lost by 5. The Mavericks had to actually make FTs in the final seconds to secure the victory. I don't see why everyone thinks it was some horrible blowout. It wasn't.

this was a classic "the score was closer than the game actually was" scenario. sure we bombed some threes to make it close but we got WORKED tonight. everytime we got close in the second half they'd pull away again.
 
We outscored them in 3 out of the 4 quarters. It was just one bad quarter.

that's all it takes, you have to play 48 minutes of basketball, and we were never all that close in the 2nd half. i think we got it down to 4 once, before the hail mary threes. constantly fighting uphill on the road is rarely going to get you wins, we've gotten lucky a couple times already with that this season.
 
this was a classic "the score was closer than the game actually was" scenario. sure we bombed some threes to make it close but we got WORKED tonight. everytime we got close in the second half they'd pull away again.
3 minutes left it was a 6 point game. yes it does appear that every time the blazers got close, the mavs would bring it back to double digits, but then the blazers also would bring that back down to a two possession game.
 
this was a classic "the score was closer than the game actually was" scenario. sure we bombed some threes to make it close but we got WORKED tonight. everytime we got close in the second half they'd pull away again.

And every time they pulled away, we came right back at THEM.
 
Oh well, it's a loss. We didn't have it tonight, and Chris Paul wasn't there to go down again :grin:
 

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