Bayless Trade Update

[PapaG]

If everything that is reported it true, the Blazers traded Jerryd Bayless (and no replacement last year) for Nolan Smith.

Thoughts?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I like it. Bayless sucks.

 

[Ed O]

Maybe the team wanted to get older.

Jerryd's a month younger than Smith, so ... success.

?

Ed O.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I guess we'll see how bad Smith sucks before we write this post mortem ... but my gut feeling isn't great.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

I'm the thread nazi. Couldnt this have gone in the Nolan Smith? thread?

 

[Ed O]

I like it. Bayless sucks.

Bayless is still a very good prospect, and he's reasonably experienced now. He's likely, IMO, to be the started in Toronto next year. I wonder how much Nolan Smith will get off the bench.

Ed O.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Bayless is still a very good prospect, and he's reasonably experienced now. He's likely, IMO, to be the started in Toronto next year. I wonder how much Nolan Smith will get off the bench.

Ed O.

not on this team.

I'm more comfortable with Nolan Smith off the bench vs. Bayless and his chucking.

 

[Ed O]

not on this team.

I'm more comfortable with Nolan Smith off the bench vs. Bayless and his chucking.

You think that Smith and Williams aren't chuckers?

Ed O.

 

[Ed O]

I'm the thread nazi. Couldnt this have gone in the Nolan Smith? thread?

Are we talking about Bayless in that thread? Would posters reasonably expect to find information and opinions about Bayless in that thread?

I don't think so.

So, no.

Ed O.

 

[MickZagger]

Nolan Smith is lockdown defense at the very least. Bayless is an alligator-armed combo guard thats in denial about his ability. I take Smith.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

You think that Smith and Williams aren't chuckers?

Ed O.

not like bayless. guy just needs to have the ball all the time to be effective.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Nolan Smith is lockdown defense at the very least. Bayless is an alligator-armed combo guard thats in denial about his ability. I take Smith.

bayless is mentally weak.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

It's all the same topic.

 

[PapaG]

You think that Smith and Williams aren't chuckers?

Ed O.

I just don't understand this pick.

Smith is a combo guard who shoots 45% from the field with elite talent at Duke, and is a 37% shooter from the NCAA 3-point line.

I think this pick is an admission that trading Bayless was a mistake, and they hope Smith can be the same sort of spark off of the bench. Smith can create his own offense, like Bayless.

 

[Ed O]

Nolan Smith is lockdown defense at the very least. Bayless is an alligator-armed combo guard thats in denial about his ability. I take Smith.

Bayless had a 6'3.5" wingspan when he was measured, and Smith has a 6'5.5" wingspan.

I don't think that difference is substantial enough to really matter much.

Ed O.

 

[PapaG]

Nolan Smith is lockdown defense at the very least. Bayless is an alligator-armed combo guard thats in denial about his ability. I take Smith.

Every small guard picked in the 20s is "lock-down" to you. I don't think it really matters, anyhow, if a team has a small "lock-down" guard off of the bench. The Blazers struggle to get consistent offense from their bench, and they struggle to rebound.

I don't think either area of concern was addressed with this pick. I'm still hoping he is traded for Faried, somehow.

 

[Ed O]

It's all the same topic.

I think you'd prefer just one thread.

It's all Blazers, after all.

I think that you're wrong. And it's been this way for years and years and I don't think we're going to change just because you keep complaining.

Sorry.

Ed o.

 

[PapaG]

I'd have rather had Shelvin Mack to replace Bayless. He pulled two undermanned teams to the NCAA title game.

 

[MickZagger]

Every small guard picked in the 20s is "lock-down" to you. I don't think it really matters, anyhow, if a team has a small "lock-down" guard off of the bench. The Blazers struggle to get consistent offense from their bench, and they struggle to rebound.

I don't think either area of concern was addressed with this pick. I'm still hoping he is traded for Faried, somehow.

6'4 190lbs is a small PG?

 

[Ed O]

6'4 190lbs is a small PG?

He said "guard", not "PG".

Smith is a combo guard.

Ed O.

 

[MickZagger]

He said "guard", not "PG".

Smith is a combo guard.

Ed O.

If you watched Duke at all, he was a PG the minute Irving went down and was legit at it. If you would of told me he was a PG 2 years ago I would have laughed. But, he was a legit PG this year.

 

[MickZagger]

Here's a good little breakdown of Smith's D abilities

http://tlorc.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/nolan-smith-is-an-excellent-on-the-ball-defender/

Dont get me wrong, I wanted Faried more. But, I think Smith will be good at what he does and in weak draft at pick 21, it is what it is.

 

[Draco]

I don't think the OT is accurate, we traded Bayless for what became the 19th pick, even though Rich Cho since traded the pick twice.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I don't think the OT is accurate, we traded Bayless for what became the 19th pick, even though Rich Cho since traded the pick twice.

Right - that trade helped us get Wallace.

 

[B-Roy]

I don't think the OT is accurate, we traded Bayless for what became the 19th pick, even though Rich Cho since traded the pick twice.

Essentially, it's what it boils down to.

 

[B-Roy]

Right - that trade helped us get Wallace.

But we didn't need to trade Bayless, we could have included our own first instead of NOs. If we did that, we'd have Bayless now instead of Smith.

 

[Ed O]

Essentially, it's what it boils down to.

Yes. I'd think that Charlotte would have accepted our first rounder, rather than New Orleans, if it was the only one we had to offer.

Ed O.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I don't think either area of concern was addressed with this pick. I'm still hoping he is traded for Faried, somehow.

I believe he already got traded for Faried (in the wrong direction); they didn't need to formalize the trade since Denver and Portland had consecutive picks.