Trade Bazemore being traded to SAC

[TBpup]

Technically we can trade the 2020 one with reverse protections.

Quite correct....but don't take his thunder. I was leaving him that obvious out so he could feel superiorly correct.

 

[oldmangrouch]

I'd be surprised if he actually ever suits up for the Blazers. I'm anticipating that he's cut within 1 week of the deal being complete.

I have this sad vision of him 20 years from now - hanging around the playground trying to convince kids he was a once an NBA player.

 

[Scalma]

Upon further review,
2020 2nd round pick to to Brooklyn (31-55 protected)
2021 2nd round pick to Memphis
2023 2nd round pick to Detroit
2024 2nd round pick to Sacramento
2025 2nd round pick to Sacreament0

I believe the original post was, "He's out of 2nd round picks for the next half dozen-ish years".

Dozen-ish....and he has 1 in the next 6 years. Sounds pretty accurate to me.....but I'm sure you'll find some way to pick at it. Have fun. I'll enjoy the effort as alwasy.

Three second round picks to trade in the next half dozen years.....doesn’t sound like he’s out.

 

[oldmangrouch]

In the next 6 drafts, Olshey has traded 5 of our picks. (one conditionally) That is the relevant point here.

 

[TBpup]

Three second round picks to trade in the next half dozen years.....doesn’t sound like he’s out.

What 3? Seems like 1 in 2022 and a reverse protected pick that has already been traded that he could possibly trade with conditions somewhere else.

So he has 1 full 2nd round pick in the next 6 years. Please elaborate further.

 

[Scalma]

What 3? Seems like 1 in 2022 and a reverse protected pick that has already been traded that he could possibly trade with conditions somewhere else.

So he has 1 full 2nd round pick in the next 6 years. Please elaborate further.

2020, 2022, 2026.

 

[tester551]

2020, 2022, 2026.

The 2026 draft is actually 7 years (drafts) away. So best case they only have 2 in the next 6 years.

Also, I don't think the 2026 pick is even eligible to be traded yet.

 

[hoopsjock]

The 2026 draft is actually 7 years (drafts) away. So best case they only have 2 in the next 6 years.

Also, I don't think the 2026 pick is even eligible to be traded yet.

You can trade draft picks through the next 7 drafts, so the 26 one can be traded this season.

 

[Scalma]

Jfc all I’m saying is it was a bad joke.

 

[TBpup]

2020, 2022, 2026.

2020 - conditional
2022 - legit
2026 more than 6 years away.

Whatever it takes, right? ....or, they have 1 full pick to trade in the next 6 years which means in 5 of those years (6-ish) they have no pics.. So to go back to the original, it wasn't nearly so far off.....especially for being something that was making light of Neil's trade history.

 

[Scalma]

2020 - conditional
2022 - legit
2026 more than 6 years away.

Whatever it takes, right? ....or, they have 1 full pick to trade in the next 6 years which means in 5 of those years (6-ish) they have no pics.. So to go back to the original, it wasn't nearly so far off.....especially for being something that was making light of Neil's trade history.

sorry your joke didn’t land.

 

[TBpup]

sorry your joke didn’t land.

Certainly not losing any sleep over it. But it certainly belies the 'have some truth' or 'stepping my game up' respsonse as it was actually quite close to being 100% true. Which off a guess for a making light comment, certainly got quite the response. Thank you....I made some $$ off of each one.

 

[BonesJones]

thanks for that writ


thanks for posting the write-up. I don't agree with some of the assumptions about Portland's intent, but it generally seems to flesh the deal out well

as I suspected, the inclusion of Gabriel was necessary filler. We don't know if Olshey targeted Gabriel or if he was who Sacramento was willing to dump....along with Swanigan. He could be a cheap fill-in for a roster slot next season

as far as holding onto Ariza as a possible trade chip next year...he just got traded for Bazemore and Ariza's value will not get better, it will likely get worse. But Portland may be so locked into mediocre options, they might guarantee that contract

Arizas value to us for trades would be his expiring contract, not that teams would want him. Hed likely be traded to match salary then bought out.

 

[HailBlazers]

So many smart guys in here. Uggh. Working in tech I come here to get away from know-it-alls.

 

[Terry Stotts]

So many smart guys in here.

Where? I havent seen a single one.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Creating cap space to try and keep Whiteside and Melo?

I still don't think we will keep Whiteside and I think we can always sign Melo for a fairly small contract if we want. I've stated else where that I hope this was to give us the money to take on a better player in a trade soon, probably with Whiteside going out..

 

[Scalma]

Certainly not losing any sleep over it. But it certainly belies the 'have some truth' or 'stepping my game up' respsonse as it was actually quite close to being 100% true. Which off a guess for a making light comment, certainly got quite the response. Thank you....I made some $$ off of each one.

Sorry your joke sucked.

 

[HailBlazers]

Where? I havent seen a single one.

Never were good at seeing what's right in front of you.

 

[TBpup]

Lol...keep responding....please! $$$

 

[maxiep]

I think Olshey's thinking went along the lines of, "This season now has different goals than it did at the beginning of the season. We no longer need a savvy vet at the stretch 4 to help us. Bazemore hasn't meshed the way I thought he would because his role has changed. For the price of two 2nd round draft picks a few years from now, I can get 80% of what Baze can do in Ariza, take a shot at a young player (Gabriel) and get one more big body (Swanigan) to rebound for a few minutes a game until Zach returns. I also save a ton off the cap."

I get the salty tone of everyone this season because our high hopes have been dashed. However, I think the move is not a terrible one. People are hoping for a needle-mover, but with our hand, we just don't have the assets.

 

[Scalma]

Lmao poor Biggie, couldn’t even get a compliment in a press release.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Not that there was any doubt of this, but Stotts just confirmed on the radio that Ariza will be starting at the 3 as soon as he's available to join the team.

 

[CupWizier]

Not that there was any doubt of this, but Stotts just confirmed on the radio that Ariza will be starting at the 3 as soon as he's available to join the team.

The beauty of the Ariza deal is we get half a season of evaluation and can decide if we want to take the savings or keep the player for next season. Unfortunately Bazemore just wasn't cutting it and I think Ariza can add something to the team this year and possibly next year as well. If we keep him next year he then becomes a 12.8 mil expiring contract to trade.

 

[B-Roy]

Not that there was any doubt of this, but Stotts just confirmed on the radio that Ariza will be starting at the 3 as soon as he's available to join the team.

I think the team would have been more fun to watch if Moses started at SF

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Never were good at seeing what's right in front of you.

if you’re referring to him not seeing a smart guy, even when he looks in the mirror, I think he had it right the first time.

 

[B-Roy]

, I can get 80% of what Baze can do in Ariza,

I disagree. Ariza is having the worst season of his career, and even then he's producing more than Baze was with us.

 

[Scalma]

Not that there was any doubt of this, but Stotts just confirmed on the radio that Ariza will be starting at the 3 as soon as he's available to join the team.

Judging by some comments on this board, he’ll make a bigger impact than people think. Using his real plus minus so far this season, he grades out better than

Oubre
Barnes
Harkless
Wiggins

And if you wanna look at his defensive rpm he grades out better than every small forward except Lebron, Kawhi, Tobias, and Butler.

 

[B-Roy]

Judging by some comments on this board, he’ll make a bigger impact than people think. Using his real plus minus so far this season, he grades out better than

Oubre
Barnes
Harkless
Wiggins

And if you wanna look at his defensive rpm he grades out better than every small forward except Lebron, Kawhi, Tobias, and Butler.

Forget all that. If you care about production he just needs to be better than Bazemore. The bar is set so low it's almost underground.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Forget all that. If you care about production he just needs to be better than Bazemore. The bar is set so low it's almost underground.

True enough. The problem is, who really cares if he makes the team marginally better in what is already a lost season? He is not a long-term answer, so IMHO he is pretty much irrelevant!

 

[Scalma]

True enough. The problem is, who really cares if he makes the team marginally better in what is already a lost season? He is not a long-term answer, so IMHO he is pretty much irrelevant!

He’s under control for next season. If he stays productive, he will be an important glue guy. If he doesn’t, his contract will be valuable if Portland wants to make a play for guys like Blake, Aldridge, etc.