Rumor Beal?

[Fairly-Hard]

For their careers, CJ has a -1 dbpm, while Beal has a 0.9. Don’t bring up CJ’s shitty defense without Beal’s

Also in todays NBA the 3 point shot has a bit of value. CJ is noticeably better. Not so much career wise CJ is 39.6% Beal is 37.2% but most recently CJ is still over 39% where Beal last year was at 30%. Granted Beal only played 40 games and that Hip injury might have been a big reason for the drop off?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Also in todays NBA the 3 point shot has a bit of value. CJ is noticeably better. Not so much career wise CJ is 39.6% Beal is 37.2% but most recently CJ is still over 39% where Beal last year was at 30%. Granted Beal only played 40 games and that Hip injury might have been a big reason for the drop off?

Also in todays NBA the 3 point shot has a bit of value. CJ is noticeably better. Not so much career wise CJ is 39.6% Beal is 37.2% but most recently CJ is still over 39% where Beal last year was at 30%. Granted Beal only played 40 games and that Hip injury might have been a big reason for the drop off?

Beal is great, but not a massive upgrade

 

[Chris Craig]

You're a real orange, julius.

My great grandfather created Orange Winzet which he sold, and was thus renamed Orange Julius.

 

[Shaboid]

My great grandfather created Orange Winzet which he sold, and was thus renamed Orange Julius.

Really? That's probably a pretty cool story and some great family history to have.

 

[Chris Craig]

Really? That's probably a pretty cool story and some great family history to have.

Yep.

He had a successful stand in California. A small building. He made all the recipes himself. He did so well he was bought out and the rest is history.

It was fun to tell my son about when we went to the Lloyd Center to the Dairy Queen/Orange Julius.

 

[Tince]

Hard pass on Bradley Beal… Everyone else has already stated why.

Exactly. We must keep the streak of no more than one all-star level player on this roster alive. We must do anything we can to resist obtaining top end talent! Titles are won with the role players baby!

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Exactly. We must keep the streak of no more than one all-star level player on this roster alive. We must do anything we can to resist obtaining top end talent! Titles are won with the role players baby!

Bradley Beal was not an all star last season.

In 10 years he's been an all star 3 times in a weak eastern conference. Being a ball dominant small poor defensive guard, he just might be the worst possible max player to pair with Damian Lillard.

You want to renounce Nurk, Simons, Hart, trade exceptions, MLE to chase the chance to maybe sign Beal to a huge max contract? Sounds like a terrible use of an offseason.

 

[Tince]

Bradley Beal was not an all star last season.

In 10 years he's been an all star 3 times in a weak eastern conference. Being a ball dominant small poor defensive guard, he just might be the worst possible max player to pair with Damian Lillard.

You want to renounce Nurk, Simons, Hart, trade exceptions, MLE to chase the chance to maybe sign Beal to a huge max contract? Sounds like a terrible use of an offseason.

There are a ton of trades I wouldn't accept for Beal. I'm responding to the people who say they don't want him at all. Of course you have to factor in the cost to obtain him.

Since 2017, when Beal has been healthy (you have to factor that in) he has been an all-star every year. But maybe you don't consider Dame an All-Star anymore because he wasn't an all-star last year either. I do though.

 

[Mediocre Man]

There are a ton of trades I wouldn't accept for Beal. I'm responding to the people who say they don't want him at all. Of course you have to factor in the cost to obtain him.

Since 2017, when Beal has been healthy (you have to factor that in) he has been an all-star every year. But maybe you don't consider Dame an All-Star anymore because he wasn't an all-star last year either. I do though.

An all star in the east. Would CJ have been an all star in the east? Would Beal have in the west. Their stats are basically the same

 

[Tince]

An all star in the east. Would CJ have been an all star in the east? Would Beal have in the west. Their stats are basically the same

I think Beal still would have made an all-star game in the West and no I don't think CJ would make it in the East. Can't prove or disprove that though. I think Beal is a a full level up from CJ. I think Ayton is better than Nurk, even if the stats don't suggest that big of a difference.

I've never seen anything from CJ that shows me he can be a solid #1 option. Beal has proven he has that skill set.

 

[LayneStaley]

If we are trading assets it better be for a BIG. I would probably lose my mind if the plan was to win with Dame/Beal/Simons as the core.

Now if they wanna trade him for Ant/Filler and we can use #7 to acquire a John Collins/OG/or use it on a Big then sure I’m all in lol

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Bradley Beal was not an all star last season.

Neither was Dame.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I think Ayton is better than Nurk, even if the stats don't suggest that big of a difference.

I'm not sure why you keep saying that. Ayton's efficiency numbers are significantly better than Nurk's. 60% FG% to Nurk's 50. .163 WS/48 to nurk's .114. 1.1 BPM to Nurk's 0.5. Pretty big differences. And those are career numbers; even bigger differences of you just look at last year.

 

[Tince]

I'm not sure why you keep saying that. Ayton's efficiency numbers are significantly better than Nurk's. 60% FG% to Nurk's 50. .163 WS/48 to nurk's .114. 1.1 BPM to Nurk's 0.5. Pretty big differences. And those are career numbers; even bigger differences of you just look at last year.

I think Ayton is better as well. You can find stats that make them look similar and others that provide said gap. I believe the same could be done with CJ and Beal. Beal, younger than CJ, has shown he can score 30ppg in a season. CJ at the age of 30 has barely cracked 23ppg in his best season. 7ppg is pretty significant. Beal has been better in nearly every statistical category (yes there are exceptions), and significantly better in certain ones.

I'm surprised that people think these two are so similar. Having said that, I wouldn't give up half our team to get him. I also wouldn't dare say he's no different than CJ.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think Ayton is better as well. You can find stats that make them look similar and others that provide said gap. I believe the same could be done with CJ and Beal. Beal, younger than CJ, has shown he can score 30ppg in a season. CJ at the age of 30 has barely cracked 23ppg in his best season. 7ppg is pretty significant. Beal has been better in nearly every statistical category (yes there are exceptions), and significantly better in certain ones.

I'm surprised that people think these two are so similar. Having said that, I wouldn't give up half our team to get him. I also wouldn't dare say he's no different than CJ.

CJ just averaged more ppg in NO. I think Dame had a lot to do with CJs ppg

Beal had a 7% higher usage rate. Of course he scored more

 

[Tince]

CJ just averaged more ppg in NO. I think Dame had a lot to do with CJs ppg

Beal had a 7% higher usage rate. Of course he scored more

CJ averaged 24ppg in NOP. He averaged 23ppg in 20-21. At 30 years old, that's not a substandard movement.

With Dame missing a lot of games this season, we saw CJ's FG% dip to his lowest mark since his rookie season. In 20-21 Beal averaged over 31ppg on a high FG% than CJ has ever had for an entire season, as a #1 option. The difference between shooting 49% as the #1 option vs 45% as a secondary option is significant, is significant to me.

We obviously disagree and either you are much higher on CJ than me (and the other teams around the league based on trade value) or you're super low on Beal. You may be right. CJ may turn into an all-star #1 option next season. I seriously doubt we'll ever find out how good Beal/Dame will be next to each other. I would trade Ant for him tomorrow though.

 

[BonesJones]

Beals 3pt percentage has been on the decline the last 6 years. And he's a very poor defender. No thanks.

 

[MickZagger]

Beals 3pt percentage has been on the decline the last 6 years. And he's a very poor defender. No thanks.

He’s also the focal point of opposing teams defenses and is trying to carry the Wizards on his back.

 

[riverman]

Beals 3pt percentage has been on the decline the last 6 years. And he's a very poor defender. No thanks.

To me he makes zero sense with our core and I can't see a world where he wants to be on our roster ..he's not a Klay Thompson at all ..I'd take Josh Hart at that position all day for the defense.
Beal would be a perfect Knicks target or Rockets target.

 

[riverman]

He’s also the focal point of opposing teams defenses and is trying to carry the Wizards on his back.

He played with Wall and Westbrook and they didn't go that far. He's also in the east ...I actually think he'd be better off staying in Washington

 

[Tince]

Beals 3pt percentage has been on the decline the last 6 years. And he's a very poor defender. No thanks.

Washington probably doesn't do this, but would you even turn down a hypothetical trade (if it worked CBA wise) of Ant+Bledsoe for Beal?

 

[KSF-ERIC]

He played with Wall and Westbrook and they didn't go that far. He's also in the east ...I actually think he'd be better off staying in Washington

They made it out of the first round their first three tries and nearly made the ECF.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Washington probably doesn't do this, but would you even turn down a hypothetical trade (if it worked CBA wise) of Ant+Bledsoe for Beal?

Of COURSE

 

[BonesJones]

Washington probably doesn't do this, but would you even turn down a hypothetical trade (if it worked CBA wise) of Ant+Bledsoe for Beal?

Yes, Beal's on the decline. Beal next to Dame doesn't make our defense better and he's worse off the ball (you'd be trading a phenomenal 3pt shooter for a poor one). Beal has name recognition, but he guarantees we'll never contend with Dame and it'd ruin our future too. Meanwhile, Ant has the sort of upside that this team needs and is at least a really good fit off-ball next to Dame and competes defensively (can get through screens).

 

[BonesJones]

He’s also the focal point of opposing teams defenses and is trying to carry the Wizards on his back.

Yeah, just like Ant was this year when he put up his best numbers and shot 10% better from 3.