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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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Sixers say now they will wait to off season to trade Ben. This is complete strategy by Philly to put more pressure on Ben and create a strong, get him now before playoff, demand. I believe there will be 5-7 teams that will make decent enough offers after 35 games or so. Just my gut feeling.
 
I'm still wondering if Morey's current desired end strategy is not Lillard (as that's too unrealistic) but rather Kyrie Irving. It would depend on the Nets losing patience and Irving being willing to play for the 76ers. That's not an obvious parlay to pull off, but neither part of it seems impossible. Irving would start getting paid again without having to get the shot, the Nets would gain a third star that fits reasonably well alongside two dominant perimeter scorers, helping amp up their defense and giving them a third play-maker who can also operate as a cutter and out of the dunker's spot (as well as post up smaller players).

Irving, meanwhile, would probably be one of Morey's perfect fits alongside Joel Embiid, about as good a fit as Lillard would be.
 
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Minstrel said:
I'm still wondering if Morey's current desired end strategy is not Lillard (as that's too unrealistic) but rather Kyrie Irving. It would depend on the Nets losing patience and Irving being willing to play for the 76ers. That's not an obvious parlay to pull off, but neither part of it seems impossible. Irving would start getting paid again without having to get the shot, the Nets would gain a third star that fits reasonably well alongside two dominant perimeter scorers, helping amp up their defense and giving them a third play-maker who can operate as a cutter and out of the dunker's spot (as well as post up smaller players).

Irving, meanwhile, would probably be one of Morey's perfect fits alongside Joel Embiid, about as good a fit as Lillard would be.
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Didn't they already discuss that but KD told the Nets not to do that? Thought I ready that somewhere.
 
Minstrel said:
I'm still wondering if Morey's current desired end strategy is not Lillard (as that's too unrealistic) but rather Kyrie Irving. It would depend on the Nets losing patience and Irving being willing to play for the 76ers. That's not an obvious parlay to pull off, but neither part of it seems impossible. Irving would start getting paid again without having to get the shot, the Nets would gain a third star that fits reasonably well alongside two dominant perimeter scorers, helping amp up their defense and giving them a third play-maker who can also operate as a cutter and out of the dunker's spot (as well as post up smaller players).

Irving, meanwhile, would probably be one of Morey's perfect fits alongside Joel Embiid, about as good a fit as Lillard would be.
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So, is Kyrie not playing? I kinda tuned out for a few weeks and feel the Blazers might be finding their groove and Lillard looked good last night. Did it seem to anyone else like he had his stroke and core strength back? Morey will be feeling the long awaited pressure soon. The longer Embiid is out the more pressure he will feel. I wish it was CJ and not Lillard who had a monster game. Also, why isn’t CJ stepping up more with Lillard struggling?
 
Idog1976 said:
So, is Kyrie not playing? I kinda tuned out for a few weeks and feel the Blazers might be finding their groove and Lillard looked good last night. Did it seem to anyone else like he had his stroke and core strength back? Morey will be feeling the long awaited pressure soon. The longer Embiid is out the more pressure he will feel. I wish it was CJ and not Lillard who had a monster game. Also, why isn’t CJ stepping up more with Lillard struggling?
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Problem now is Maxey and Curry are surging so they don’t feel they need CJ.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
Didn't they already discuss that but KD told the Nets not to do that? Thought I ready that somewhere.
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I've read (a month ago or so) that Durant still wanted Irving to be a part of the team. But does that last all the way to the trade deadline if he believes that one of his best shots at a post-Warriors title might get wasted? There's definitely landmines to be navigated here before such a deal could happen, but this feels like the cleanest exchange--a team that Simmons fits on that has an "extra" perimeter scorer that it's not even getting value from that Morey would absolute accept as a star.
 
Idog1976 said:
So, is Kyrie not playing?
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Nope. By law, he's not allowed to play home games in Brooklyn until he gets the vaccine and the Nets announced that he won't play road games either until he's eligible to participate in all their games.
 
Minstrel said:
I've read (a month ago or so) that Durant still wanted Irving to be a part of the team. But does that last all the way to the trade deadline if he believes that one of his best shots at a post-Warriors title might get wasted? There's definitely landmines to be navigated here before such a deal could happen, but this feels like the cleanest exchange--a team that Simmons fits on that has an "extra" perimeter scorer that it's not even getting value from that Morey would absolute accept as a star.
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Why would the Sixers want Kyrie? Nobody knows if he'll play again even if he isn't traded, and that goes double if he is. Yes, anyone would want a player with Kyrie's talent. Just not Kyrie.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Why would the Sixers want Kyrie? Nobody knows if he'll play again even if he isn't traded, and that goes double if he is. Yes, anyone would want a player with Kyrie's talent. Just not Kyrie.
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As I said in my original post about this idea, the Sixers would have to ascertain whether Irving is willing to play for them. If the Nets are willing to deal, they can allow the Sixers to talk to Irving and gauge his interest. Obviously, if Irving isn't willing to play for Philadelphia, then this wouldn't happen.
 
Minstrel said:
As I said in my original post about this idea, the Sixers would have to ascertain whether Irving is willing to play for them. If the Nets are willing to deal, they can allow the Sixers to talk to Irving and gauge his interest. Obviously, if Irving isn't willing to play for Philadelphia, then this wouldn't happen.
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I think if Morey wanted Irving it would've happened already. Even if he's KD's buddy, they can stay buddies off the court but KD needs to lock up homecourt.
 
blazerkor said:
He was last year's runner up for DPOY. He averaged 14.3ppg on 55.7% from the field, 7.2rpg, 6.9apg, 1.6spg, .6bpg and only 3topg. Pretty impressive but most of those numbers are worse than he'd done the season before when Doc wasn't coaching him.
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This is something which should not be ignored. VERY productive over the last two seasons with one poor playoff series.
Also, a skill set that would fit SO well with the Blazers from a secondary decision maker and all-world defensive standpoint.

Still would bring him here.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So you'd trade Dame for him? Because that's the only way to bring him here.
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Wow, is that not close to implied anywhere in there. Of course not, if you really need an answer to a ridiculous premise. The obvious piece is CJ and then add what else it takes.
Simmons is NOT getting another teams multi-time all-star who is the #1 player on a Playoff team the caliber of Dame in a trade.
 
TBpup said:
Wow, is that not close to implied anywhere in there. Of course not, if you really need an answer to a ridiculous premise. The obvious piece is CJ and then add what else it takes.
Simmons is NOT getting another teams multi-time all-star who is the #1 player on a Playoff team the caliber of Dame in a trade.
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I will bet you anything you like that we are not getting Simmons for any package that doesn't include Dame. At this point I really don't see how anyone could believe we are.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
I will bet you anything you like that we are not getting Simmons for any package that doesn't include Dame. At this point I really don't see how anyone could believe we are.
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I doubt we get him because.....Neil. However, neither Portland or anyone else is giving up a player of Dame's caliber for Simmons. They have lost the leverage for anything close to that with how this has been handled from the start.
 
TBpup said:
I doubt we get him because.....Neil. However, neither Portland or anyone else is giving up a player of Dame's caliber for Simmons. They have lost the leverage for anything close to that with how this has been handled from the start.
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I'm pretty sure even if Neil offered CJ + draft picks Morey wouldn't take it. CJ's a poor fit now that you have Curry and Maxey as two huge contributors. Hell, I rate CJ better than Jerami Grant, but he's a better fit for the Sixers than CJ, and we've heard what Morey thinks of him.
 
I think Morey would want at least 3 firsts to go along.
 
How are those Championship odds now, Mr Morey? Your team isn’t even in the play-in! Morey has handled this terribly. Should’ve made a deal in July at the latest.
 
Let’s trade Nurkic, CJ and RoCo plus a #1 to Philly for Simmons and Harris.

get rid of our problems that will help Philly at Center, give somewhat of a replacement to Harris and Simmons for RoCo and CJ along with a pick - win for both sides.

options for Philly with Nurk’s expiring too

Dame / Powell / Simmons / Harris / Nance

with Little / Ant / Zeller off the bench

It’s small at Center but several of the bigs around the league are injured anyways


pick up a ver bench player or two for the playoffs
 
BoomChakaLaka said:
Let’s trade Nurkic, CJ and RoCo plus a #1 to Philly for Simmons and Harris.

get rid of our problems that will help Philly at Center, give somewhat of a replacement to Harris and Simmons for RoCo and CJ along with a pick - win for both sides.

options for Philly with Nurk’s expiring too

Dame / Powell / Simmons / Harris / Nance

with Little / Ant / Zeller off the bench

It’s small at Center but several of the bigs around the league are injured anyways


pick up a ver bench player or two for the playoffs
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