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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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I can just see it now. Philly fan with belly button showing, beer in one hand, cheesesteak in the other. "I always had his back", food particles spewing out of his mouth at the same time.
 
BBert said:
Philly fans are notoriously brutal. I cannot imagine Simmons stepping on the court for them. I mean, I can imagine it, but so can he probably, which is why I can't imagine it happening.
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It's not the fans that I can't imagine Ben playing for, it's a coach that says about him what Damon Stoudamire said about Avery Johnson... except Mighty Mouse was talking shit and Doc is Ben's fucking head coach. Then you have the player that Philly has obviously chosen over Simmons in every way throwing Ben under the buss. So I don't see Ben (especially being represented by Clutch) playing with Embiid or for Doc. It's a nonstarter for Simmons and for sure Rich Paul will not let people think he doesn't protect the reputation of one of his star players in that way.

Philly hasn't been playing Ben the right way anyway, it's all about him setting others up and they haven't built him up. Now they've torn him down and if you think his trade value has taken a hit, I wonder what this shit has done to his endorsement market.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
https://thesixersense.com/2021/08/25/sixers-assigning-blame-ben-simmons-quagmire/
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Philly is toxic. I went to school there for a few years right before the process started, and even then I felt the general fanbase and media surrounding the Sixers were awful. Casuals who thought like they understood the league, but heavily opinionated and loud. And zero loyalty.
Phillies/Eagles fans were similar, but more engaged with their respective teams. (and yes, I know I'm generalizing).

TL;DR: I don't know how Simmons returns to that environment especially when the franchise is reflective of the fans' general mindset.
 
Well.... there ya go, Morey.



In a meeting with the 76ers last week in Los Angeles, Simmons told team co-managing partner Josh Harris, president of basketball operations Daryl Morey, general manager Elton Brand and coach Doc Rivers that he no longer wants to remain a Sixer, according to multiple sources.Sources said the three-time All-Star also does not intend to report to training camp.

Simmons is fully aware the Sixers can fine him for holding out and failing to show up to training camp. But a source said money will not play a role in the decision-making for Simmons, who has four years and $147 million remaining on his deal.

Plus, fining Simmons could strain the Sixers’ relationship with his super agent, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports. Paul has a who’s who of clients — players the Sixers might be interested in pursuing down the road in free agency.

When asked specifically whether he thought Simmons would come back at all, a source responded “no,” resolutely.
 
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Breaking News: Simmons traded to the Lakers for 2 cans of soda and a future bag of pancakes
 
DDolla said:
Breaking News: Simmons traded to the Lakers for 2 cans of soda and a future bag of pancakes
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Belgium waffles, not pancakes.
 
FWIW, there is a whole section about CJ in that Simmons piece behind the paywall. Are there workarounds to this stuff? @SlyPokerDog i know you posted something about this in the past-- can't remember how you did it.
 
illmatic99 said:
FWIW, there is a whole section about CJ in that Simmons piece behind the paywall. Are there workarounds to this stuff? @SlyPokerDog i know you posted something about this in the past-- can't remember how you did it.
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Sources: Ben Simmons tells team brass he no longer wants to be a Sixer
Ben Simmons let it be known that he wants out.

In a meeting with the 76ers last week in Los Angeles, Simmons told team co-managing partner Josh Harris, president of basketball operations Daryl Morey, general manager Elton Brand and coach Doc Rivers that he no longer wants to remain a Sixer, according to multiple sources.

Sources said the three-time All-Star also does not intend to report to training camp.

A team spokesman declined to comment.


For the second time since December, the Sixers are unsuccessfully trying to trade Simmons, whose trade value has diminished. At the beginning of this past season, they tried to send him to the Houston Rockets in exchange for James Harden. The Rockets ultimately traded Harden to the Brooklyn Nets on Jan. 11.

The Sixers are having a tough time finding a team to meet their lofty trade demands.

The organization does not want to trade Simmons for less than what it believes is fair market value. The four told Simmons they wanted him to report to the start of training camp on Sept. 28 and be a part of the team.

» READ MORE: Warriors reject Sixers’ steep asking price, walk away from Ben Simmons trade


The source said, however, the Sixers’ inability to get fair market value isn’t Simmons’ fault.

Another source said there’s no shortage of teams still interested, but the problem is Morey is demanding a king’s ransom.

Simmons is fully aware the Sixers can fine him for holding out and failing to show up to training camp. But a source said money will not play a role in the decision-making for Simmons, who has four years and $147 million remaining on his deal.

Plus, fining Simmons could strain the Sixers’ relationship with his super agent, Rich Paul of Klutch Sports. Paul has a who’s who of clients — players the Sixers might be interested in pursuing down the road in free agency.


When asked specifically whether he thought Simmons would come back at all, a source responded “no,” resolutely.

None of this should come as a surprise.

As The Inquirer noted on July 26, if Simmons really wants out, he could opt to be disruptive or not show up for training camp. The tactic has worked for many elite professional athletes across sports who want to be traded.

On Aug. 9, ESPN analyst Kendrick Perkins said Simmons is willing to hold out of training camp as long as it takes to get traded.


Time will tell if the 25-year-old reports and/or if the team avoids what is bound to be a circus-like atmosphere by trading him in the weeks leading up to camp.

The belief around the league is the Sixers have been holding out for six-time All-NBA point guard Damian Lillard to request a trade from the Portland Trail Blazers. But Lillard said, “I’m not leaving [Portland] — not right now at least” on Wednesday during an Instagram Live stream.

The Sixers’ best consolation could be circling back to the Blazers for a potential deal involving shooting guard CJ McCollum before the start of training camp. That trade would make sense for both teams.


In addition to fulfilling needs, the players have similar salaries. Simmons will make $33 million next season, while McCollum will receive $30.8 million.

The problem is both teams might think they should get more in return.


McCollum, 29, has averaged 18.9 points while shooting 38.9% on 3-pointers in 528 career games with 431 starts. However, the eight-year veteran out of Lehigh is not an All-Star after years of playing in the tough Western Conference.

Even still, he could be the best option and a good pickup right before training camp with all things considered.

League sources believe the Sixers will have a tough time getting what they perceive as fair market value under the circumstances.

“Think about three months ago when the Sixers are willing to give up Ben Simmons. You are like, ‘Let’s see what we have to do to get him,’” said a Western Conference executive, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “Now, the difference is Ben Simmons says he refuses to play for the Sixers. He wants to go to three California teams. There’s so much bad blood between him and the team.”

The executive said teams are not willing to give in to the Sixers’ steep asking price knowing they have to move Simmons.

“The kid said he’s not going back,” the executive said. “I’m not giving you what you’re demanding. They really messed this up.”

A source believes the devaluing of Simmons began with Rivers’ postgame comments following the Game 7 loss to the Atlanta Hawks in the Eastern Conference semifinals on June 20.

That’s when the coach, who has been one of Simmons’ biggest supporters and defenders, was asked by The Inquirer’s David Murphy if the standout is still capable of being a point guard on a championship-caliber team.

“I don’t know the answer to that right now,” Rivers responded on a night when Simmons finished with five points, 13 assists, eight rebounds and was sidelined the final 40 seconds of the 103-96 loss.

He attempted just four shots, making two. For the fourth straight game, Simmons did not attempt a shot in the fourth quarter. He played timid, appearing fearful to go to the foul line.

» READ MORE: Right deal for Ben Simmons proves elusive, but time may not be on the Sixers’ side

That became apparent with 3 minutes, 29 seconds remaining and the Sixers trailing, 88-86. He drove to the basket past Danilo Gallinari, but passed up an open dunk underneath the basket, dishing the ball to Matisse Thybulle, who was fouled by John Collins. Thybulle made one of two free throws.

The day after wavering, Rivers did say that Simmons is salvageable. He said the Sixers would put together the right type of offseason workout plan to help correct Simmons’ shooting deficiencies. But a source said Simmons has not participated in a Sixers offseason workout plan.

The source believes it will be tough for Simmons to have a working relationship with the team moving forward. At the same time, the team isn’t trying to let their multifaceted player go for little in return.


The Sixers would definitely have a lot of holes to fill by getting rid of Simmons.

In addition to being the point guard, Simmons is a two-time NBA All-Defensive player, a third-team All-NBA selection, a small-ball center and reserve power forward.

Can one envision Simmons returning to the Sixers for two months just to raise his trade value? And with all the heat he’ll likely receive from Sixers fans, he might benefit from a change of scenery.
 
Sweet.

The Sixers’ best consolation could be circling back to the Blazers for a potential deal involving shooting guard CJ McCollum before the start of training camp. That trade would make sense for both teams. In addition to fulfilling needs, the players have similar salaries. Simmons will make $33 million next season, while McCollum will receive $30.8 million. The problem is both teams might think they should get more in return. McCollum, 29, has averaged 18.9 points while shooting 38.9% on 3-pointers in 528 career games with 431 starts. However, the eight-year veteran out of Lehigh is not an All-Star after years of playing in the tough Western Conference. Even still, he could be the best option and a good pickup right before training camp with all things considered.
 
I wonder how Philly views Maxey. Because SacTown has some really good young PGs. But if they like Maxey then there is no point.
But my guts says Philly would take Fox (and change)
 
illmatic99 said:
FWIW, there is a whole section about CJ in that Simmons piece behind the paywall. Are there workarounds to this stuff? @SlyPokerDog i know you posted something about this in the past-- can't remember how you did it.
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Can you say what it says? Not copy and paste but the info? Is it about cap space or pick protections?
 
At this point, with the Nance addition, I wouldn’t mind running it back. Simmons seems like a piece of work.

does the forum think we would be a better team if we try to three-way to get someone like OG Anunoby (perhaps with Boucher or other filler) Not sure if that’s realistic or not.

Lillard/Simons
Powell/Snell
Anunoby/Nas
Covington/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

The defense would be lights out but I wonder if there’s enough offensive firepower there?
 
boredinsalem said:
At this point, with the Nance addition, I wouldn’t mind running it back. Simmons seems like a piece of work.

does the forum think we would be a better team if we try to three-way to get someone like OG Anunoby (perhaps with Boucher or other filler) Not sure if that’s realistic or not.

Lillard/Simons
Powell/Snell
Anunoby/Nas
Covington/Nance
Nurkic/Zeller

The defense would be lights out but I wonder if there’s enough offensive firepower there?
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There is no way in H-E double hockey sticks that TOR is letting OG go.
 
Oh boy



Given all the shit Morey has done, there is no GM who deserves this more. Slimy POS.

Fyi... we have Nurk and McLemore as Klutch clients right now.
 
illmatic99 said:
Oh boy



Given all the shit Morey has done, there is no GM who deserves this more. Slimy POS.

Fyi... we have Nurk and McLemore as Klutch clients right now.
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No agent should advocate for his players!

Folx be hating on Rich Paul for doing the exact same things other Agents do...
 
dviss1 said:
The truth about Simmons is coming to light...
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about what? you expect him to just shut up and show up after his GM tried to trade him to every team this summer, tried to trade him last year, while his teammate and coach threw him under the bus publicly?

I don't blame him or Paul for wanting out.
 
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