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What's the most you would give up for Ben Simmons?

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blazerkor said:
Yeah the "Prima donna" that I'd love for you to furnish a quote from that makes him look like one. I mean, you're getting that narrative from a local Bay Area sports talk guy. It wasn't even a report. If you have some other info that supports your contention that Simmons is some kind of diva please let us in on it.
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Court demeanor. As a referee of 18 years, I'm an expert at judging court demeanor.

He's a fucking lil' diva the way he treats his opponents and the referees. Look at his interactions with Kanter and Nurkic.

I don't need to furnish you a quote or anything. You got google. Do some finger work.

And while you're clamoring a Rich Paul client, you can be sure that if he's gonna try and force his way out...
 
dviss1 said:
Court demeanor. As a referee of 18 years, I'm an expert at judging court demeanor.

He's a fucking lil' diva the way he treats his opponents and the referees. Look at his interactions with Kanter and Nurkic.

I don't need to furnish you a quote or anything. You got google. Do some finger work.

And while you're clamoring a Rich Paul client, you can be sure that if he's gonna try and force his way out...
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Cool, that's some serious conjecture. As Blazers fans we know very well that court demeanor doesn't tell us shit about who a player is off the court (see Sheed). I've done the "finger work" and there's literally nothing besides the one radio jockey/local newsman from the Bay Area making a blind accusation without citation. He did date Kylie Jenner but deducing anything about who he is from that would just be more wild unsubstantiated conjecture.
 
dviss1 said:
Court demeanor. As a referee of 18 years, I'm an expert at judging court demeanor.

He's a fucking lil' diva the way he treats his opponents and the referees. Look at his interactions with Kanter and Nurkic.

I don't need to furnish you a quote or anything. You got google. Do some finger work.

And while you're clamoring a Rich Paul client, you can be sure that if he's gonna try and force his way out...
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Sooo.... you really don't have any real reasons for not wanting Ben. "Expert" got a chuckle out of me, not gonna lie.

lol Nurkic is a Rich Paul client. So is our new guy Ben McLemore.

So what?
 
Orion Bailey said:
he cut off all talks with his team and crawled in a corner and pouted.
A winner faces the media and tells them he has issues and vows to work on his weaknesses over the summer.
Lets be real here.
Dude totally curled into a ball over the pressure.
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blazerkor said:
Cool, that's some serious conjecture. As Blazers fans we know very well that court demeanor doesn't tell us shit about who a player is off the court (see Sheed). I've done the "finger work" and there's literally nothing besides the one radio jockey/local newsman from the Bay Area making a blind accusation without citation. He did date Kylie Jenner but deducing anything about who he is from that would just be more wild unsubstantiated conjecture.
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illmatic99 said:
Sooo.... you really don't have any real reasons for not wanting Ben. "Expert" got a chuckle out of me, not gonna lie.

lol Nurkic is a Rich Paul client. So is our new guy Ben McLemore.

So what?
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Sigh….
 
blazerkor said:
Cool, that's some serious conjecture. As Blazers fans we know very well that court demeanor doesn't tell us shit about who a player is off the court (see Sheed). I've done the "finger work" and there's literally nothing besides the one radio jockey/local newsman from the Bay Area making a blind accusation without citation. He did date Kylie Jenner but deducing anything about who he is from that would just be more wild unsubstantiated conjecture.
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See Sheed??? As someone who knows and has hung out with Rasheed Wallace you don't know WTF you're talking about.

That's the MF who hit Boomjte Boomjte in the back with basketball in practice. That's the guy who threw a towel in Sabas face.

Blind conjecture? FOH. He's an asshole it's easy to see. Man, you're carrying so much water for this selfish prick...

illmatic99 said:
Sooo.... you really don't have any real reasons for not wanting Ben. "Expert" got a chuckle out of me, not gonna lie.

lol Nurkic is a Rich Paul client. So is our new guy Ben McLemore.

So what?
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You master your craft at 10K hours right? I have about 9500 hours into refereeing high level basketball. I'm as close an expert at is as you can get.
You're comparing Ben McLemore to other Rich Paul Clients like AD and now Simmons who's demanding a trade? Stop...
 
wizenheimer said:
the way you come into threads at such an immediate high temperature, when you tell somebody to do finger work, I'm pretty sure of which finger will be worked
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there are tangible reasons to not want Ben. I disagree with 99% of them because I understand the kind of talent he has, but this dude has yet to bring up a single one. lol @ "court demeanor."
 
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illmatic99 said:
there are tangible reasons to not want Ben. I disagree with 99% of them because I understand the kind of talent he has, but this dude has yet to bring up a single one. lol @ "court demeanor."
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It's easy to tell who's a dick or not. The many times I reffereed players like Payton Prichard, he was a class act. With his teammates, opponents, and referees.

OJ Mayo, was a fucking dick. Even to his teammates. Malcolm Porter was a flopping whiner who expected every call. Terry told me to T him up.

It's not hard...
 
illmatic99 said:
there are tangible reasons to not want Ben. I disagree with 99% of them because I understand the kind of talent he has, but this dude has yet to bring up a single one. lol @ "court demeanor."
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Soooo Grayson Allen isn't a Dirty lil' prick?? You can't use court demeanor to tell?

 
illmatic99 said:
there are tangible reasons to not want Ben. I disagree with 99% of them because I understand the kind of talent he has, but this dude has yet to bring up a single one. lol @ "court demeanor."
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Soooo Chris Paul isn't a flopping lil Diva? He's not whiny lil' complainer? You can't use court demeanor to determine that?

 
dviss1 said:
Jesus can you read? It has everything to do with court demeanor...
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so your reason for not wanting him has nothing to do with basketball, you've made that clear.

i just hope you said all this nonsense about not wanting james harden last year either. just for consistency sake.
 
Dviss Bringing the heat!! :)


I brought up some reasons to not want him. So did platy. Seems to be ignored by some though….

oh well…
 
I have my reservations about Simmons as a player in today's league (he'd have been an easy top-five superstar in past eras), but I don't blame him for wanting out of Philadelphia. His coach said he wasn't sure you could win a title with him and his co-star called him out after the playoff loss. They're perfectly entitled to drag him publicly if they want, and he's perfectly entitled not to want to be around people who dog their players/teammates in the media.
 
dviss1 said:
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forgettem. I posted that earlier.
Not the tweet. Just the situation. No comment. No response.

they know there have been valid reasons mentioned but refuse to acknowledge them and are stuck on one facet that's been mentioned.
 
illmatic99 said:
so your reason for not wanting him has nothing to do with basketball, you've made that clear.

i just hope you said all this nonsense about not wanting james harden last year either. just for consistency sake.
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It's annoying how you don't read. I've given all the basketball reasons why.
 
illmatic99 said:
so your reason for not wanting him has nothing to do with basketball, you've made that clear.

i just hope you said all this nonsense about not wanting james harden last year either. just for consistency sake.
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He's several times talked about how he shoots poorly, with the wrong hand, is unwilling to do so in clutch situations, and should be because he's such a poor free throw shooter. Those are all basketball reasons that @dviss1 has listed for why he doesn't want Simmons.
 
Minstrel said:
I have my reservations about Simmons as a player in today's league (he'd have been an easy top-five superstar in past eras), but I don't blame him for wanting out of Philadelphia. His coach said he wasn't sure you could win a title with him and his co-star called him out after the playoff loss. They're perfectly entitled to drag him publicly if they want, and he's perfectly entitled not to want to be around people who dog their players/teammates in the media.
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he's a transcendent talent who needs the right environment to flourish. A consistent all NBA defender who would address nearly every one of our primary weaknesses.

If you don't want Ben because he can't shoot, fine say that. If you say he's a liability because of his FT shooting, say that.

But don't come at me with "prima donna" or "court demeanor." That's reminiscent of all the idiots who ran out Sheed because he had an attitude. It's clear he's not built like Giannis mentally, who can block out of the nonsense and isn't afraid to fail on TV. But if he were, he wouldn't be on the trading block and they would have built around him instead of Embiid. What you hope for is that you can nurture that talent and placate him to a point where his game can then take over. What doc and Joel did in their postgame media availability the minute after losing was unforgiveable. I honestly don't blame Ben for being reclusive this summer.

The point is, we might potentially be in a place to be able to land a defensive talent like him without giving up our best asset-- that in and of itself is a miracle and we shouldn't just dismiss it because some dumbass news hack called him a "socialite."
 
PtldPlatypus said:
He's several times talked about how he shoots poorly, with the wrong hand, is unwilling to do so in clutch situations, and should be because he's such a poor free throw shooter. Those are all basketball reasons that @dviss1 has listed for why he doesn't want Simmons.
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sorry, i got caught up on "court demeanor."

Ap0logies @dviss1 if i missed those posts, but your continual comments about CP/Grayson/etc were distracting and had nothing to do with Ben.
 
blazerkor said:
Yeah the "Prima donna" that I'd love for you to furnish a quote from that makes him look like one. I mean, you're getting that narrative from a local Bay Area sports talk guy. It wasn't even a report. If you have some other info that supports your contention that Simmons is some kind of diva please let us in on it.
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I got to say,watching the documentary on Netflix about Ben left me thinking he was a diva Prima Donna. I'm sure my observation could be wrong and maybe he has grown up.
 
illmatic99 said:
sorry, i got caught up on "court demeanor."

Ap0logies @dviss1 if i missed those posts, but your continual comments about CP/Grayson/etc were distracting and had nothing to do with Ben.
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For your viewing pleasure. :cheers:

dviss1 said:
Steps in, looks around...

There's people in here who want to trade a guy who's never afraid to shoot for a guy who can't shoot and is scared to dunk on the Lil Goomba from Mario??? Really??

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dviss1 said:
Simmons whole mind is fucked bro... He's literally shooting with the wrong hand... It would be a foolish trade.

You vastly overrate Ben Simmons defense. Just because HE says it doesn't make it true...
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dviss1 said:
Needs more fear in his game? WTF does that even mean...? Do less of what you don't like?

It's still foolish AF to trade CJ for him. NO one wants him except Blazer fans.. Go figure...

One is a walking bucket, the other is scared to shoot with the wrong hand he's been shooting with... It's delirious IMO...
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dviss1 said:
I'm on board with wanting CJ gone. But to trade him for Simmons is STUPID IMHO. I'd honestly rather have Jerami Grant that Tobias Harris if Siakam is off the table.
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dviss1 said:
All this Ben Simmons talk is fucking disgusting...

It's like y'all didn't watch the playoffs. Somebody in here said "dunk whenever he wants"...

GTFO... He was scared to dunk on Trae Young because he might go to the foul line where does what?? FUCKING SUCK...

Basketball aside, this prima donna MF completely CUT off communication with his team. He's literally not returning the Sixers calls... :blink:

Moron wants to trade him. Embiid calls him out and doesn't want to play with him, WTF do you think Dame wants with this MF??

He doesn't even shoot with the correct hand...

Y'all hate CJ so much and want to trade a walking bucket for a guy who needs to see a psychiatrist... FOH...
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illmatic99 said:
had nothing to do with Ben.
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They had everything to do with Ben and his court demeanor. You literally LOL'd when I said you could use court demeanor to determine a player's mindset. But most everyone in here has used court demeanor to dislike players like Chris Paul...
 
dviss1 said:
They had everything to do with Ben and his court demeanor. You literally LOL'd when I said you could use court demeanor to determine a player's mindset. But most everyone in here has used court demeanor to dislike players like Chris Paul...
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Who cares if people like/dislike a guy if he's in the finals? I'd rather get guy who helps us win in the playoffs over a guy who is being voted most likeable in the regular season
 
illmatic99 said:
Who cares if people like/dislike a guy if he's in the finals? I'd rather get guy who helps us win in the playoffs over a guy who is being voted most likeable in the regular season
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So you'd love Ron Artest coming to the Blazers during his mentally ill Days? Did you like Reuben Patterson?
Dennis Rodman maybe when he was sitting down on the free throw line? Lots of people in here HATED Kobe...
LaMarcus Aldridge better not ever think of coming back. I'd boo him IN the Rose Garden. :dunno:

Where do you draw the line at players that you'd hate to have on your team for various reasons? There are some people I just don't want to root for.

For me, I don't want Ben Simmons anywhere near my favorite team for the reasons I mentioned. He's someone I'd hate to have to root for.

We all know what Fan is short for. There are some players I'd just hate to have here.
 
Can i just say again that when the pressure got thick he curled up in a ball and hid?

thats not a winning behavior.
A winner comes to the media and says he has issues to work on and plans on improving them over the summer to come back later.

He just found a cave and ran.

In pro sports all athletes are great. Im of the opinion that what takes a greT player and turns them imto an all star or superstar is mentality.
Belief in ones self.

Ben has shown none of this. Im not sure how anyone can think he is championship caliber player until he can face his weaknesses and gain some mental strength.
 
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