illmatic99
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Lol this is egregious
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Aside from not pointing out some of the other areas that are pros (as @Orion Bailey pointed out....PnR elite level and post up ability), there is also not enough credit given to his pros.
Simmons has averaged more Assists/game in his career than Dame.
Simmons is one of the top defenders in the entire NBA and one of the most versatile.
That certainly does not dismiss the Cons, but the Pros need more weight IMO. As for playing off the ball, Dame hasn't exactly shown a big growth arc in that area either. He tends to stand after he give is up in comparison to Curry who immediately goes into move/cut mode.
Sorry, but Dame and CJ are far more redundant in pretty much every aspect of the game than Dame and Ben would be.I don’t think I was minimizing his P&R ability because it becomes more of a redundancy. We already have an elite P&R guy, one that actually isn’t afraid to look for his shot. And getting Ben would mean that guy would have to play off the ball. For $30M I’d want more than a guy that ran the second unit. There are better fits out there that could potentially become available that wouldn’t require as much compromise.
Based on what we saw last night, maybe Harrison Barnes...Sorry, but Dame and CJ are far more redundant in pretty much every aspect of the game than Dame and Ben would be.
Who do you think would be available that's better?
let's not overrate a guy based on what he does against our defense now.Based on what we saw last night, maybe Harrison Barnes...
He likes to be a bully. Talk about a childish act.
Reminds me of one of the best tweets.
I can see why so many people on here have an issue with you. Don’t ever PM me again.
Should've used the green font--sorry.let's not overrate a guy based on what he does against our defense now.
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nah i got your sarcasm. my caffeine has kicked inShould've used the green font--sorry.
go back and re-read the game thread.im sorry but i find this just about as funny as it gets…
the irony. The hypocrisy…
lmfao!!!!
i need to read something depressing now to stop these giggles. Lol.
go back and re-read the game thread.
go back and re-read the game thread.
Should've used the green font--sorry.
Sorry, but Dame and CJ are far more redundant in pretty much every aspect of the game than Dame and Ben would be.
Who do you think would be available that's better?
I don’t think I was minimizing his P&R ability because it becomes more of a redundancy. We already have an elite P&R guy, one that actually isn’t afraid to look for his shot. And getting Ben would mean that guy would have to play off the ball. For $30M I’d want more than a guy that ran the second unit. There are better fits out there that could potentially become available that wouldn’t require as much compromise.
It's not often that a superstar level player is available. When they are, you make an effort to acquire them and figure out the fit later. Waiting on hypotheticals of who may or may not be available is useless. If Ben doesn't workout, you can always move him. By then, he'd have raised his value from where it is now.
There are red flags everywhere. How else are we going to pair all-nba talent with Dame in the next 12 months?Everybody not in Simmons’ circle: red flag, red flag, red flag, red flag
Simmons’ groupies:
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Ben Simmons isn’t a superstar level player.
Agree to disagree. Even if he's a star level player, the point still stands.
We don't haven't many years left to wait. How many will be available for CJ? How many have been traded for a package we could match without gutting the team?the point being stars don’t become available often? Seems they become available yearly.
We don't haven't many years left to wait. How many will be available for CJ? How many have been traded for a package we could match without gutting the team?
It's getting to the point that we need to strike when it's hot.
So glad to see Klutch look like idiots for their hold out demands. It was an anticipatory breach of contract and allowed the 6ers to legally hold his Oct 1st pay in escrow.
If they hadn't said those statements he could've got his 8 million check first then hold out.
I'm also enjoying Morey having an asset lose value. He overplayed his hand with Dwight Howard, wasn't able to trade him for anything, and Howard walked for nothing.
I hope all sides lose in this drama.
This is who he is, is the pointAlmost 6 years old though.
If he’s not he’s borderline, look at current players is Curry or Dame superstars even though they are only good on one side of the game? Simmons is superstar defensively he’s a top 2 defensive player in entire NBA. You don’t have to like the guy but he’s superstarBen Simmons isn’t a superstar level player.
This is who he is, is the point
If he’s not he’s borderline, look at current players is Curry or Dame superstars even though they are only good on one side of the game? Simmons is superstar defensively he’s a top 2 defensive player in entire NBA. You don’t have to like the guy but he’s superstar
I think we can't even do as well as Simmons.I’m all for trading CJ like I said, I just think we can do better than Simmons.
I think we can't even do as well as Simmons.