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im sorry but after watching all the trail blazer games, i see we needa another scorer off the bench to go along with mccollum, and kaman you put another scorer with thoses two and it helps further develop cj because he wont have all this pressure to have to be the second best player off the bench. someone who can play 15/20 mins a game and can put up points quickly and can play 2/3 im not going to throw out names but if we want to be elite we need another scorer. i think that bench player should be another vet whos been to the (wars) playioffs. i thought we should have went after Q miller young althletic cheap lots of upside. or even earl clark can play D 6'10 and can guard 2-4.

- to stotts he needs to play the bench more he doesnt give them a chance if they make mistakes he takes them out gotta let them develop mccollum, barton, freeland, lenonard crabbe robinson. even wright you cant get much going with only playing 8 mins. trust the bench.
 
Welcome to the forum!

Nice first post.
 
thank you !!!!! it just sucks cuz our bench still stinks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kaman is the only one who is consistent bench player. (im not knocking blake cuz hes was brought here to run the O and get our weapons the ball).
 
CJ is not the answer to our bench woes. He helps of course, but what we lack is a playoff proven vet who can get his own shot.


FWIW, the OP had a very mixum like vibe to it
 
Mediocre Man said:
CJ is not the answer to our bench woes. He helps of course, but what we lack is a playoff proven vet who can get his own shot.


FWIW, the OP had a very mixum like vibe to it
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Ideally a scoring wing of the SF/SG variety would help
 
Mediocre Man said:
CJ is not the answer to our bench woes. He helps of course, but what we lack is a playoff proven vet who can get his own shot.


FWIW, the OP had a very mixum like vibe to it
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This... I like our current bench, but we definitely need a player other than McCollum. Someone with a bit more experience in crunch situations
 
magnifier661 said:
This... I like our current bench, but we definitely need a player other than McCollum. Someone with a bit more experience in crunch situations
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As some have already noted, a player capable of playing the 2/3 spots (preferably 3-pt proficient) would be the next ideal bench player.
 
tlongII said:
We don't have "bench woes".
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Honestly, I'm not sure how you can say that?

We have a better bench, but we are still 25th in bench scoring, 27th in bench minutes. We need it improved at the deadline to take that next step
 
Hobbesarable said:
As some have already noted, a player capable of playing the 2/3 spots (preferably 3-pt proficient) would be the next ideal bench player.
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Actually, a player who can get into the paint and create his own shot would work better for our roster, IMO
 
Mediocre Man said:
Actually, a player who can get into the paint and create his own shot would work better for our roster, IMO
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I've been harping on this for ages. We don't have wing players that get to the line enough against the elite teams in the West. We don't need 3-point gunners, we have that covered. We need a player that get calls going to the rim when the shots aren't falling for Dame and LA.
 
Hobbesarable said:
As some have already noted, a player capable of playing the 2/3 spots (preferably 3-pt proficient) would be the next ideal bench player.
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And that is exactly what CJ provides on a pretty consistent basis. He will only get better.
 
See I disagree.
Memphis is a really good team.
I predicted they'd win 60+ games this year and was laughed at.
Bench won't win a game against a good team like Memphis. Starters will.

In order to beat Memphis the Blazers need their Starters to play better defensively.
Last night after the Blazers cut it to 6 with the bench in, they subbed the starters and gasol/conley pushed it back to 10.
(won't address the terrible outlet pass Kaman tossed that turned into a turnover killing momentum.)
Blake flustered the hell out of Udric, and forced him to take some bad shots.
I don't think CJ would have helped last night at all. The starters needed to finish that game better defensively. Not the bench.




Also I wasn't the biggest fan of the offense last night.
LA needed to be posted up a few more times vs Gasol/Randolf. I know they were fake double teaming but it still opens up shorts/cutters.
The few times he was in the post... He made Gasol look like a mouse. Which is stupid with as big/strong Gasol is.....

But it's one game. Not going to overreact. Memphis is good. Blazers are good.

regardless Memphis and the Portland will be two of the final four teams alive in the west this year.
 
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honkicracker said:
See I disagree.
Memphis is a really good team.
I predicted they'd win 60+ games this year and was laughed at.
Bench won't win a game against a good team like Memphis. Starters will.

In order to beat Memphis the Blazers need their Starters to play better defensively.
Last night after the Blazers cut it to 6 with the bench in, they subbed the starters and gasol/conley pushed it back to 10.
(won't address the terrible outlet pass Kaman tossed that turned into a turnover killing momentum.)
Blake flustered the hell out of Udric, and forced him to take some bad shots.
I don't think CJ would have helped last night at all. The starters needed to finish that game better defensively. Not the bench.




Also I wasn't the biggest fan of the offense last night.
LA needed to be posted up a few more times vs Gasol/Randolf. I know they were fake double teaming but it still opens up shorts/cutters.
The few times he was in the post... He made Gasol look like a mouse. Which is stupid with as big/strong Gasol is.....

But it's one game. Not going to overreact. Memphis is good. Blazers are good.

regardless Memphis and the Portland will be two of the final four teams alive in the west this year.
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I agree with this take. Would I go for an upgraded bench? Sure. Is it the reason we lost or will lose games? Not likely imo.
 
blue32 said:
We did just win 9 in a row guys...
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Who did we beat though? The victories are awesome, but who did we beat?

Records as of now

Denver 8-8
Charlotte 4-13
@ Denver 8-8
Brooklyn 6-8
New Orleans 7-7
Chicago 10-6 Without Rose, Gasol or Hinrich
@ Boston 4-9
@ Philly 0-15
@ Charlotte 4-13

So 1 team with a record over .500 in that stretch missing 3 key players.

In fact, the Blazers are 2-3 vs teams with a .500 or better record right now. (I have no idea what they were when we played them)

I am not taking anything away from them because they are beating teams soundly, and in a many different ways. However, the record against good teams should show that we need to bolster the weakest part of our team, which is our bench.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Who did we beat though? The victories are awesome, but who did we beat?

Records as of now

Denver 8-8
Charlotte 4-13
@ Denver 8-8
Brooklyn 6-8
New Orleans 7-7
Chicago 10-6 Without Rose, Gasol or Hinrich
@ Boston 4-9
@ Philly 0-15
@ Charlotte 4-13

So 1 team with a record over .500 in that stretch missing 3 key players.

In fact, the Blazers are 2-3 vs teams with a .500 or better record right now. (I have no idea what they were when we played them)

I am not taking anything away from them because they are beating teams soundly, and in a many different ways. However, the record against good teams should show that we need to bolster the weakest part of our team, which is our bench.
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Your list has 4 wins against .500 or better, fyi.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Who did we beat though? The victories are awesome, but who did we beat?

Records as of now

Denver 8-8
Charlotte 4-13
@ Denver 8-8
Brooklyn 6-8
New Orleans 7-7
Chicago 10-6 Without Rose, Gasol or Hinrich
@ Boston 4-9
@ Philly 0-15
@ Charlotte 4-13

So 1 team with a record over .500 in that stretch missing 3 key players.

In fact, the Blazers are 2-3 vs teams with a .500 or better record right now. (I have no idea what they were when we played them)

I am not taking anything away from them because they are beating teams soundly, and in a many different ways. However, the record against good teams should show that we need to bolster the weakest part of our team, which is our bench.
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Your list of the 9 game win streak has us beating 4 teams with a .500 or better fyi
 
Filling out the team with draft picks has been a disaster. Despite a few good performances.
 
ripcityboy said:
Filling out the team with draft picks has been a disaster.
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Yes, I agree. Let's go out and get some free agents!

Oh wait, we already did that, with 40% of our starting lineup and 40% of our rotational bench players being free agent signings.

So what do you want now, hmm?

If only we were on pace to win more than 60 games, our season wouldn't be a disaster!

Oh wait, we are still on pace to win 61 games this year.

Well, shit... how can we call this all a disaster?

I know! Fire Stotts!
 
ripcityboy said:
I don't.blame the Blazers. The existence of AAU teams and early pro eligibility is killing this league. Stern was totally ineffective the last twenty years of this sport.
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AAU is awful, honestly it should be you play for the HS you're suppose to go to (unless you get a private school scholarship) then you pick a college and stay 3 full years at least. Nothing more. While we are at it.. no more pros for FIBA.
 
I don't think our bench was the reason we lost against the best team in the NBA last night. Our starters played lazy defense after the 1st qtr and we shot 40% from the field as a team. Kaman couldn't hit shots until the second half. Nic couldn't shoot anything, LA couldn't make a layup, Damian and LA missed freethrows. This loss is not on the bench, it's on the team. If we shot a normal % for us, we beat the Grizz bly a dozen points. Credit Memphis for playing a great game! I knew after a 9 game winning streak with us near the top of the standings that there'd be a meltdown after the first loss. CJ would have had the hardest time getting his shot off against Memphis than he's had against any team we play. He was NOT the reason for the loss.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Who did we beat though? The victories are awesome, but who did we beat?

Records as of now

Denver 8-8
Charlotte 4-13
@ Denver 8-8
Brooklyn 6-8
New Orleans 7-7
Chicago 10-6 Without Rose, Gasol or Hinrich
@ Boston 4-9
@ Philly 0-15
@ Charlotte 4-13

So 1 team with a record over .500 in that stretch missing 3 key players.

In fact, the Blazers re 2-3 vs teams with a .500 or better record right now. (I have no idea what they were when we played them)
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Spurs had a pretty shitty record against Western playoff teams last year also.
Such a box analysis.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I think I've seen way too much of Joel Freeland
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Joel is not the problem. He is probably our second best post defender, and in fact plays some bigs better than any other Blazer. It's a problem if you're hoping he will provide scoring, of course.

(You picked a bad game to say this, too: Freeland was +6 - the only Blazer who was +.)
 
Memphis is a good measuring stick. They're a legit playoff team. Maybe even a contender. I'm not sure if I put them in the contender category because they don't have that go-to-guy that most teams need to win it all. Gasol is a beast, but he's not a go-to-guy. Neither is Zach. They're insanely good at defense, but a team like the Pistons had Chauncey Billups in the clutch. Who is that guy for Memphis? Certainly not Conley.

I think we have a really good team. I still think we need a scorer off the bench. Right now Kaman is the only dependable scorer off the bench.
 
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