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Minstrel said:
You're misunderstanding me. I'm saying you'll support him, at this point, in anything he does--except flipping on the subject.



I respect the fact that you've been through what presumably were unpleasant or painful experiences in your life. I don't need to respect all of your views, though. Just as you don't have to respect mine. I don't believe all views need to be respected. As an easy, not-based-on-you example, I don't think neo-Nazi views need to be respected. I respect views that, in my opinion, respect the rights of others.
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Consider them, at the least. It's not necessarily respecting the viewpoint itself, so much as it is respecting a person's right to have it.
 
Where Trump is concerned, his sheep will blindly support him no matter what...it's really scary and dumbfounding to watch and hear.

Opinion/freedom of speech are not one way streets...others also have the right to counter their claims.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Where Trump is concerned, his sheep will blindly support him no matter what...it's really scary and dumbfounding to watch and hear.

Opinion/freedom of speech are not one way streets...others also have the right to counter their claims.
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Absolutely. Now, who do you support?
 
ABM said:
It's not necessarily respecting the viewpoint itself, so much as it is respecting a person's right to have it.
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I've never suggested you don't have the right to hold the view, pard.
 
ABM said:
It's not necessarily respecting the viewpoint itself, so much as it is respecting a person's right to have it.
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Respecting a person's right to have an abortion?

I agree!
 
ABM said:
Consider them, at the least. It's not necessarily respecting the viewpoint itself, so much as it is respecting a person's right to have it.
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Of course.
 
Minstrel said:
I've never suggested you don't have the right to hold the view, pard.
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Anyway, considering my past experiences, and Trump's position on the matter (whether he's flipped, or not) as POTUS, I don't really care if I'm a one-issue voter (even though I'm not). He's the most pro-life President on record that I can think of, and I'm thankful that he is!
 
Oh awesome another thread about ABM’s stance abortion. Can we just change the thread prefix from politics to, “ABM’s Abortion stance”, cause it seems like whether he brings it up or not some one is going too, and then thats all that will be talked about.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Oh awesome another thread about ABM’s stance abortion. Can we just change the thread prefix from politics to, “ABM’s Abortion stance”, cause it seems like whether he brings it up or not some one is going too, and then thats all that will be talked about.
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90% of the folks in here equate my support of Trump with my support of right-to-life. Trump will always be part of the various equations, therefore, so will right-to-life, as it pertains to yours truly.
 
Did you guys see Tulsi is begging to get on the next Debate? I dont get why she hasnt dropped out, what is she getting out of this is it a try out to be on fox and cnn?
 
NEWSFLASH !!!

Pro-life/Pro-choice is not the only issue facing us, and according to most polls, neither is it the most important.
 
yankeesince59 said:
NEWSFLASH !!!

Pro-life/Pro-choice is not the only issue facing us, and according to most polls, neither is it the most important.
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Sorry Im in a super cranky mood last few weeks not much sleep going on for various reason. I should have been less sarcastic. I realize abortion is an important issue, just IMO its been talked out what his stance is and what others stances are, I dont think anyones mind is being changed.

There are like you said a lot of other topics to talk about in politics.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Sorry Im in a super cranky mood last few weeks not much sleep going on for various reason. I should have been less sarcastic. I realize abortion is an important issue, just IMO its been talked out what his stance is and what others stances are, I dont think anyones mind is being changed.

There are like you said a lot of other topics to talk about in politics.
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TBF, you do know that my post was in no way directed at you, right?

FWIW, I knew exactly what you were trying to say in your post concerning ABM.
 
yankeesince59 said:
TBF, you do know that my post was in no way directed at you, right?
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I do! :). Im not at all mad or upset or anything and I wanted to make sure that came across. When I get really tired were talking like 2-3 hours of sleep most nights, I have problems communicating nicely.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I do! :). Im not at all mad or upset or anything and I wanted to make sure that came across. When I get really tired were talking like 2-3 hours of sleep most nights, I have problems communicating nicely.
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Well sometimes we all need to get things off our chest, and fwiw, you're communicating just fine, IMO.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Well sometimes we all need to get things off our chest, and fwiw, you're communicating just fine, IMO.
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Thanks.

Anyways, I think most people assume Bidens gonna win, but I think Bernies got a shot. Itll also be interesting to if Bernie loses would he run independent?
 
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ABM said:
Anyway, considering my past experiences, and Trump's position on the matter (whether he's flipped, or not) as POTUS, I don't really care if I'm a one-issue voter (even though I'm not). He's the most pro-life President on record that I can think of, and I'm thankful that he is!
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Here's the problem with that well intentioned effort, you're going to turn more and more women against you. Eventually they're going to have abortions in a back room by some jerk who isn't even a doctor.
Let women make their own decisions regarding their bodies. If they make the wrong decision then they must live with it. It is and should be out of your hands.
If you want to help then help these women after they give birth and must raise their child. Show them that you care not only for the fetus developing into a child such that there can be a live birth but that you care about mitigating all the problems that these women face in raising such children. The caring should not end when the child is born. And the ordering of women should not begin with a woman's pregnancy.
It's really up to the woman and God. Let the woman decide her own fate and not have you decide her fate for her.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Thank.

Anyways, I think most people assume Bidens gonna win, but I think Bernies got a shot. Itll also be interesting to if Bernie loses would he run independent?
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Bernie's got zero shot. Biden will win big tomorrow and will pretty much sweep the South. There's not much left for Bernie to do but coalesce behind Biden and get Trump the hell out of the people's House, The White House.
A way of soothing hurt feelings is to think which one will not only beat Trump the worst but also gain the Senate and maybe add to the lead in the House and that's just not Bernie.
I like Bernie and would like to see his policies implemented but I just don't see it happening. It's more likely that Biden will make progress albeit slowly.
With a Biden election ding dong the witch is dead.

 
ABM said:
Anyway, considering my past experiences, and Trump's position on the matter (whether he's flipped, or not) as POTUS, I don't really care if I'm a one-issue voter (even though I'm not). He's the most pro-life President on record that I can think of, and I'm thankful that he is!
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Except for locking children in cages, taking away free school lunches, barring desperate refugees, taking away health care.. oh wait, those are actually born people so they don't count.

I guess I am the person being mean. Boo fucking hoo. Stop insisting you (and Trump) have the right to force your will on women's bodies and I will be nicer.

On one side, women with serious health problems, girls barely in puberty, rape victims, women whose fetuses have severe, maybe fatal, birth defects, women in abusive relationships, women who can barely provide for the children they already have, women who simply are unable to care for a child. On the other, ABM saying HE (and Trump) know better, that women are too stupid or too irresponsible to make their own private health decisions, or simply the sluts deserve punishment and don't simply give an opinion but demand they make the decision and impose it on women by force.

But oh having a sad because I'm so mean. Get out your hankies.
 
Lanny said:
Bernie's got zero shot. Biden will win big tomorrow and will pretty much sweep the South. There's not much left for Bernie to do but coalesce behind Biden and get Trump the hell out of the people's House, The White House.
A way of soothing hurt feelings is to think which one will not only beat Trump the worst but also gain the Senate and maybe add to the lead in the House and that's just not Bernie.
I like Bernie and would like to see his policies implemented but I just don't see it happening. It's more likely that Biden will make progress albeit slowly.
With a Biden election ding dong the witch is dead.

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I kind of find Bernie and his base... Annoying..., but I assume its the loud minority. If they were going to have a far left progressive type Id have rather had EW, which oddly enough I really disliked her going into this process, she seemed to me like she wasnt going to just flip me off and tell me Im an idiot if I disagreed with her. Bernie (and the loud minority of his fans), always feel so condescending and like well if you dont agree with them on everything than you can get on out of America, his campaign has always come across to me like The lefts version of Trump. Anyways I think Biden will win too, seems like some of the momentum has slowed down for Bernie.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Did you guys see Tulsi is begging to get on the next Debate? I dont get why she hasnt dropped out, what is she getting out of this is it a try out to be on fox and cnn?
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She qualified, but then they changed the rules on her to keep her out. I believe she stays in due to the fact that the DNC is trying to keep her silent.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Did you guys see Tulsi is begging to get on the next Debate? I dont get why she hasnt dropped out, what is she getting out of this is it a try out to be on fox and cnn?
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She would be in it if thery hadn't changed the rules again to exclude here.

Stupid, stupid Dims, getting played again just like it's still 2016. :biglaugh:
 
POTUS Trump is going to crush Hillary sooooooooo bad this time around.
 
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