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What I gathered from this thread:1. Nas is the best ever.2. 90% of the people on BBW don't know sh*t about rap.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>2. 90% of the people on BBW don't know sh*t about rap.</div>Having an opinion doesn't mean they dont know 'sh*t' about rap. 50 cent may seem better to some people than Nas does.
 
No, that's not it. I have nothing wrong with people's preference, or what they like, but someone who knows rap should have at least a sense on who the best ever is. I mean, I personally enjoy some truly sh*tty rap songs, but I don't think they're the best songs ever. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the top people ever to rap, like KRS for example, but I can acknowledge his skill and what he did for the game. That's knowing something about rap.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC @ Sep 20 2006, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Having an opinion doesn't mean they dont know 'sh*t' about rap. 50 cent may seem better to some people than Nas does.</div>I hope not.
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I like alot of slower rap, I prefer Fabolous over Nas.Just my opinion.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>No, that's not it. I have nothing wrong with people's preference, or what they like, but someone who knows rap should have at least a sense on who the best ever is. I mean, I personally enjoy some truly sh*tty rap songs, but I don't think they're the best songs ever. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the top people ever to rap, like KRS for example, but I can acknowledge his skill and what he did for the game. That's knowing something about rap.</div>I get what your saying. Good point.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Sep 20 2006, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, that's not it. I have nothing wrong with people's preference, or what they like, but someone who knows rap should have at least a sense on who the best ever is. I mean, I personally enjoy some truly sh*tty rap songs, but I don't think they're the best songs ever. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the top people ever to rap, like KRS for example, but I can acknowledge his skill and what he did for the game. That's knowing something about rap.</div>Amen, lol I gotta agree with yankshater here. I mean there are some people that listen to the most commercial-mainstream music ever made and think it's the best music in world... :no3: (Ex. Yung Joc)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yankshater213 @ Sep 21 2006, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No, that's not it. I have nothing wrong with people's preference, or what they like, but someone who knows rap should have at least a sense on who the best ever is. I mean, I personally enjoy some truly sh*tty rap songs, but I don't think they're the best songs ever. I'm not particularly a fan of some of the top people ever to rap, like KRS for example, but I can acknowledge his skill and what he did for the game. That's knowing something about rap.</div>WOW. It's amazing how much we share about rap, I personally don't like KRS either except for ROTBB but I still acknowledge he is great.
 
You guys that are true hip hop fans should listen to Jedi Mind Tricks...my favorite artist at the moment also Jus Allah(who broke away from Jedi Mind Tricks) is sick as hell, hes an Underground legend.
 
LOL @ Young Joc. Guy sucks so bad.I posted best rapper alive as in whether you like him or not, by skill...I don't know if I specified that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Sep 20 2006, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys that are true hip hop fans should listen to Jedi Mind Tricks...my favorite artist at the moment also Jus Allah(who broke away from Jedi Mind Tricks) is sick as hell, hes an Underground legend.</div>I love Jedi Mind Tricks. Sickest rappers to ever start a group. Their lyricism is nowhere near comparable to anyone. The guys spit about the usual topics (moeny, cash, hoes, etc.), but with the sickest lyrics."Animal Rap" from Jedi Mind Tricks has to be my favorite song of all time.I also like Benefit. Anyone ever heard of him? He's a sick, white lyricist. "Proceed With Caution" is also a sick ass song. Just check the lyrical level, man.I'm an inspiring emcee... Or, well, I was. I keep my lyrical content to strictly underground style, you know? In other words, I rhyme using multis and always have two or three punchlines in each verse. I stopped rapping because I have other things to do for right now. I may start again later, but for now, I'm a bit side-tracked with school and all. Also, my best friend and I used to go to a studio over the summer and we recorded a shitload of songs! It cost $35 an hour to record, so we used our time wisely. No joking around. Strictly business-type of sh*t, you know?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KCX @ Sep 20 2006, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>tupac is still alive. hes up there and so is nas. so is kanye westjk about kanye.</div>Tupac's dead, I'll dig up his grave and send his body to you. Just get over it dude.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Sep 23 2006, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T.I and Chamillionaire...Too Good.</div>Smack yourself.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Sep 22 2006, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T.I and Chamillionaire...Too Good.</div>This is Best Rappers alive..not most played on the radio...Don't get me wrong I like Chamillionaire and some T.I. but they are nowhere near the best rapper alive let alone the best rappers from the south
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There is nothing wrong with T.I and Chamillionaire I think there one of the best out there everone love's them.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Sep 23 2006, 03:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is nothing wrong with T.I and Chamillionaire I think there one of the best out there everone love's them.</div> :HAHAHA: ^^thats the only proper response to this.
 
T.I. is well ok at best...but you cant tell me that Chamillionaire is not good, and is not one of the best if in the south right now. The fact that they overplay his songs on the radio too damn much hurts him in a way but still, hes a good rapper and deserves his respect.
 
T.I is a good lyricist. His topics are redundant, but his rhymes are mastered perfectly. He may come out with a new style every time he makes a new album, but I still like the guy (no homo). Chamillionaire? Eh... Rhymes decently, but that's about it. Makes annoying songs every now and then, too. No lie.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Illosophee @ Sep 23 2006, 08:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T.I is a good lyricist. His topics are redundant, but his rhymes are mastered perfectly. He may come out with a new style every time he makes a new album, but I still like the guy (no homo). Chamillionaire? Eh... Rhymes decently, but that's about it. Makes annoying songs every now and then, too. No lie.</div>T.I.s flow is good and I respect that about him. And I hope youre not just basing your opinion on Chamillionaire on just "The Sound of Revenge", I suggest you go back and hear the old Chamillionaire; The Mixtape Messiah, Get Ya Mind Correct, all that sh*t. but, yeah ill agree with you on the annoying songs part
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Sep 23 2006, 12:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There is nothing wrong with T.I and Chamillionaire I think there one of the best out there everone love's them.</div>Dude no offense but do you know anything about rap or just go by what rappers MTV plays the most. And no not everyone loves them. I mean I do like rain on The Sound of Revenge and a few of TI's firt songs a little but these guys are no where close to being the best rapper alive. I don't honestly know enough about Nas to say he's the best rapper ever but I could definetly say he is the best alive. Illmatic is incredible and arguably the best hip hop album ever. He has to have some of the best lyrics I've ever heard. Plus he has always stuck to his music unlike most rappers who stop putting out great music once they get famous.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Sep 23 2006, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>T.I.s flow is good and I respect that about him. And I hope youre not just basing your opinion on Chamillionaire on just "The Sound of Revenge", I suggest you go back and hear the old Chamillionaire; The Mixtape Messiah, Get Ya Mind Correct, all that sh*t. but, yeah ill agree with you on the annoying songs part</div>I know what you mean, but I'm excluding Cham's underground tracks. Why? Well, he's a mainstream artist now. That's like going back and listening to the old G-Unit songs. You'll be surprised like, "Damn... Everyone can rhyme! I thought only Llyod Banks could rhyme out of the G-Unit crew!" You'll be astonished, huh? But their underground sh*t doesn't make them who they are today anymore. Yeah, they got signed off of mixtapes, as well as Chamillionaire, but that's different now. It's mainstream v.s underground. Chamillionaire was a sick artist as an underground rapper, but now that's he mainstream, he's just decent. Nothing too special. Better than most on the radio, but not by a huge margin, you know?Same goes for Eminem. He was the sickest lyricist you'd ever hear from his underground sh*t up until the Slim Shady LP. Money changes people. The Marshall Mathers LP? Good, but nothing compared to the Slim Shady LP. It's underground v.s mainstream (as I had already stated) and the mainstream always has the upper edge.Basically, my whole post was to explain that I'm biased. I hate mainstream. I love underground. Cham changed for the dough.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Sep 23 2006, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude no offense but do you know anything about rap or just go by what rappers MTV plays the most. And no not everyone loves them. I mean I do like rain on The Sound of Revenge and a few of TI's firt songs a little but these guys are no where close to being the best rapper alive. I don't honestly know enough about Nas to say he's the best rapper ever but I could definetly say he is the best alive. Illmatic is incredible and arguably the best hip hop album ever. He has to have some of the best lyrics I've ever heard. Plus he has always stuck to his music unlike most rappers who stop putting out great music once they get famous.</div>I listen to rap for a very long time, T.I and Chamillionaire are young and eather will be one of the best or are the best.
 
The only thing I have to say about Jay-Z, Download the song "Swagger Jacker" by Cam. I used to be a Jay-Z fan, but have now lost pretty much all respect for him. It pretty much shows how Jay-Z has stolen most of his material. In a lot of cases he didnt even switch it up. Just copied word for word. As far as best rappers out there. As far as lyrics go, I think everyone forgets about Jadakiss. His lyrics are SICK. I do think that Eminem is up there. I dont think there are many people out there that can put words together as good as he can. Nas is tight.Anyone who says that Jay-Z is the best of all time better have Biggie ahead or even with him. Seeing as how he copied all his sh*t off of Biggie. Download the song if you havent already and you will see what I mean.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Sep 23 2006, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing I have to say about Jay-Z, Download the song "Swagger Jacker" by Cam. I used to be a Jay-Z fan, but have now lost pretty much all respect for him. It pretty much shows how Jay-Z has stolen most of his material. In a lot of cases he didnt even switch it up. Just copied word for word. As far as best rappers out there. As far as lyrics go, I think everyone forgets about Jadakiss. His lyrics are SICK. I do think that Eminem is up there. I dont think there are many people out there that can put words together as good as he can. Nas is tight.Anyone who says that Jay-Z is the best of all time better have Biggie ahead or even with him. Seeing as how he copied all his sh*t off of Biggie. Download the song if you havent already and you will see what I mean.</div>Yeah, hova copied alot of lines from B.I.G. :no1:
 
Sure he did, but your gonna make a few stolen lines change his career? It definitely does take away but not to the point of making him bad or worst then Biggie.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Heatfan32 @ Sep 23 2006, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sure he did, but your gonna make a few stolen lines change his career? It definitely does take away but not to the point of making him bad or worst then Biggie.</div>Word.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Becar @ Sep 24 2006, 12:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only thing I have to say about Jay-Z, Download the song "Swagger Jacker" by Cam. I used to be a Jay-Z fan, but have now lost pretty much all respect for him. It pretty much shows how Jay-Z has stolen most of his material. In a lot of cases he didnt even switch it up. Just copied word for word. As far as best rappers out there. As far as lyrics go, I think everyone forgets about Jadakiss. His lyrics are SICK. I do think that Eminem is up there. I dont think there are many people out there that can put words together as good as he can. Nas is tight.Anyone who says that Jay-Z is the best of all time better have Biggie ahead or even with him. Seeing as how he copied all his sh*t off of Biggie. Download the song if you havent already and you will see what I mean.</div>Sounds like you never heard Jay's response "Silent Killer".
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Larry Hughes @ Sep 23 2006, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I listen to rap for a very long time, T.I and Chamillionaire are young and eather will be one of the best or are the best.</div>Being young has nothing to do with it. Both TI and Chamillionaire are mainstream and commercial rappers. Both rappers lyrics are nothing special, they aren't very influencial, and they don't exactly rap about anything that actually took a lot of talent to think of. Don't tell me a song like Ridin took a lot of talent to come up with the lyrics.
 
Chamillionaire is pop rap. He's not a real rapper.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iversonfan268 @ Sep 24 2006, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Being young has nothing to do with it. Both TI and Chamillionaire are mainstream and commercial rappers. Both rappers lyrics are nothing special, they aren't very influencial, and they don't exactly rap about anything that actually took a lot of talent to think of. Don't tell me a song like Ridin took a lot of talent to come up with the lyrics.</div>Rain is probably Chamillionaire's hottest song.
 
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