Bishop 9 and 0 against this team

[Rangers94]

I don't care if it is O or D...players need to be held accountable. Coaches need to be held accountable. The fact that this team has been terrible in their own zone this season isn't just a coach issue...it is the players and the coaches.

And now we lead and all you guys do is whine...LOL.

I'VE NEVER CLAIMED IT WASNT PLAYERS! But that it is the first time you have legit put ANY blame towards the coaches. It's obviously the players fault. But coaches need to COACH THE MISTAKES OUT and they haven't yet this season. THAT is my issue. We all have seen the same mistakes in our own zone all year long with no adjustment. We've been good tonight so far 5v5 with just a few mistakes which is a huge improvement.

 

[chuckd3534]

Okay...coaching issue. AV should be fired. Let's run him out of town like we did with Torts.

I told you my issues with AV, but I don't want him castrated so that means I am not holding him accountable and giving him a pass...LOL.

You have your opinion 94...all good.

 

[Rangers94]

This is the first game I've seen since this slump started that in the defensive zone they haven't all been staring at the puck and allowing a guy to skate in to the slot undefended and wide open for a shot. (Hope I didn't jinx that haha)

 

[chuckd3534]

Take a look about 5 or 6 posts up 94 and I told you my issues with AV, but I guess that is the first time I have put any blame on the coaches.

This is a nonsense waste of time 94. I think it is all of the above.

Now I am done with this.

 

[Ranger71]

Outside of benching people there's really not much Vigneault can do about the coverage issues, it's the players being lax or lazy.

 

[chuckd3534]

I am with you 71...and that is my issue with AV...hasn't scratched guys when they deserved it. Good to see him sit Hayes tonight.

BTW...another "fan favorite" we all wanted gone has been playing really well. Give Boyle some credit. He has been on his game the past couple of weeks.

 

[Rangers94]

Okay...coaching issue. AV should be fired. Let's run him out of town like we did with Torts.

I told you my issues with AV, but I don't want him castrated so that means I am not holding him accountable and giving him a pass...LOL.

You have your opinion 94...all good.

Once again, I didn't say AV should be fired. There's other ways of being held accountable, such as a GM or president saying they're not happy with how the team is playing, etc. I hate the fact that if you criticize AV in here all of a sudden it's blasphemy and you're not a fan. This has been a bad season for our players and coaching staff so far this year. The players have been gliding around, not giving their all not playing with any urgency and have fallen asleep time after time in their own zone watching the puck. The coaches have not done a good job at finding a way to motivate the players this year and coach the mistakes out of them. It's just about the halfway point, so it's safe to say that this is the team we are, a team that has a lot of potential, but for some reason can't reach it just yet. I like the scratching of Hayes and I think AV should scratch Kreider, Staal, Girardi, and whomever else is half assing it out there, not just a young guy. Veterans sometimes need those wake up calls too and it's a good quick way to send a message and hope to see a change quickly in a veteran.

 

[Ranger71]

Staal should be given some time off, either to get himself mentally together or nursing an injury..whatever.

 

[Rangers94]

BTW...another "fan favorite" we all wanted gone has been playing really well. Give Boyle some credit. He has been on his game the past couple of weeks.

Boyle has been great, and is it any coincidence it's when his job and playing time are on the line because of Dylan? I don't think so. I think it's motivated him to step up his game and that's why AV should do the same with Staal. Sit him for a few games and see if it motivates him to step up his game.

 

[chuckd3534]

We agree there 94. AV needs to put some of these guys on notice and take away their PT if they don't get their sh*t together. That's an issue I have with AV.

 

[Rangers94]

We agree there 94. AV needs to put some of these guys on notice and take away their PT if they don't get their sh*t together. That's an issue I have with AV.

His loyalty to vets coughGlasscough is a HUGE problem. Someone needs to tell him it's ok to bench vets and drop useless players like Glass to help the team. I still can't get over the Stoll waiving though.

 

[Ranger71]

I don't think Boyle's worried about McIlrath i think he's just stepped it up lately. It's Staal that might want to be looking over his shoulder though i don't think McIlrath is an answer.

 

[chuckd3534]

Stalberg and Moore played well tonight...give them credit as well.

Good solid win. Not perfect, but I think we played well overall and outside of the 5 PP's TB had our D was pretty tight. Good to see.

To me this terrible streak started at TB...maybe it will end tonight at TB.

 

[chuckd3534]

Your McIlrath hate is funny 71. He played well when given the chance. Have to be fair. He isn't some stud yet and is still learning, but he played well. Gives me hope that when he takes Boyle's spot next season we will be in good hands.

 

[chuckd3534]

I also agree on Stoll 94. That pissed me off and still does. When we have only Moore to win a FO we will miss 57% FO winner Stoll. That move angers me.

 

[Rangers94]

Good defense leads to offense. Probably the best defensive game we've had in a while. PK needs to clear the crease better. Other than that, probably the best overall game we've played in about a month.

 

[strudwickisthebest]

Lol look at that little pussy Kucherov skating around acting tough. Someone bitch slap him

 

[Ranger71]

We'll see, i don't hate the guy and he has held his own in limited action but the jury is still out long term for me. I've upgraded from 'bust' so that's progress.

 

[chuckd3534]

One of the best games we have played since last time we came to TB and the crap started.

 

[chuckd3534]

Oh you hate him...and that's okay....

Yeah...the jury is still out for sure. He is not a given after 20 games +/-, but he played well and gives you real hope that he could be a solid dman for us moving forward.

 

[Ranger71]

Hope so and he makes me eat my words, as he seems like a hard worker and good kid. Plus the fact that we now have to worry about what to do with Staal and possibly losing Yandle to FA.

 

[JD30]

Agree 100% that the 4th line had a tremendous game tonight and were difference makers. Moore was tough on the forecheck all night and idiot Glass played a hard game. Staal played a notch or two better but can be better. Girardi mehhh! Miller continued his strong play finishing checks and working his ass off. On the other hand, still a big zero from Stepan and Kreider

 

[chuckd3534]

What I liked was AV finally scratching Hayes. I like moving Miller up with Brass and Zucc...I think that could be a good fit. I like playing Nash with Stepan. And I also like moving Kreider down to the 3rd line with Lindberg and Etem.

Those are some things I liked tonight.

 

[JD30]

Regarding McIlrath, you're way off base if you think this kid doesn't bring something to the table this team lacks. Watching his play last year in Hartford and the few pre season games he played, he has improved immensely. He no longer runs around in his end looking for the big hit. He plays a tough game along the wall and in front of his net. He has learned that he doesn't need to fight everyone. Just watch McD and Staal get pushed around lately and you see what this guy brings. His confidence soared in his short stint. If the league-wide way to get to Lundqvist is to bump and screen him just like Nashville did all game, the kid has to play more. I'll guarantee you the brave forwards who try that shit will be put on thier ass and think twice. Maybe, just maybe, he'll help some of his teammates play a little braver as well !

 

[BigDaddyAl1973]

Regarding McIlrath, you're way off base if you think this kid doesn't bring something to the table this team lacks. Watching his play last year in Hartford and the few pre season games he played, he has improved immensely. He no longer runs around in his end looking for the big hit. He plays a tough game along the wall and in front of his net. He has learned that he doesn't need to fight everyone. Just watch McD and Staal get pushed around lately and you see what this guy brings. His confidence soared in his short stint. If the league-wide way to get to Lundqvist is to bump and screen him just like Nashville did all game, the kid has to play more. I'll guarantee you the brave forwards who try that shit will be put on thier ass and think twice. Maybe, just maybe, he'll help some of his teammates play a little braver as well !

With all due respect i totally disgree that teams will change their strategy because dylan is on the ice. If anything you push the limits more and hope you get him off the ife for at least 5 minutes at a clip.

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[kreidertime]

You've been wrong on McIlrath from day one Al. You and a lot of thickheaded Rangers fans did nothing but bash this guy and call him a bust. Lamenting not talking Fowler who sucks and is a glorified version of Tom Poti. McIlrath should be playing over Girardi at this point.

 

[chuckd3534]

McIlrath should not be playing over Girardi. What he should be doing is playing over everyone here and there giving G a rest, and Staal a rest, and Klein a rest, and Boyle a rest, and Yandle a rest. That's what should be happening. Not simply bench G and play McIlrath. And I think that will happen some as we move forward.

Fans are fans and we live in he right here and right now of this second. There is A LOT of hockey left to play this season, and McIlrath will get his gameS.

I really like the way Mac played during his recent stretch and he deserves PT for sure, and it gives me hope that he will be a solid dman as we move forward into next season when he will be a lock in the top 6. But for now during this season his role should be to give all the dmen rest (someone on this D can play LD for a few games when Staal gets a break).

I don't think the smart play at all is bench G and play McIlrath period. The smart play is to give all the dmen some rest by rotating McIlrath in for them.

 

[kreidertime]

I said that from the beginning. However, the reality is this team is now fighting for a playoff spot and Girardi has had his head up his ass all season. You can't afford his incompetence any longer. You play the lineup that gives you the best chance to win and that ain't Girardi.

 

[chuckd3534]

I disagree a little. To me Girardi has not been great for sure, but outside of the couple of games he was awful in before his injury break I think he has just been whatever. Certainly needs to play better, and can play better, but he hasn't been bad outside of those couple of horrific games. He has been whatever...average give or take.

Staal on the other hand has been bad all season IMO. Got beat to the outside with speed a few times last night as well. If we were talking about a dman that needs a couple of games off I think Staal is that guy before Girardi clearly.

 

[chuckd3534]

The issues I have had, and will have, with AV is giving some of these dmen rest. Why did he wait this long to scratch Hayes. He needs to step up his discipline IMO. Hayes should have been scratched 2 weeks ago. Staal needs to be scratched next.

Giving these guys too long a leash/not giving players a rest game here and there AND playing Glass are my AV issues.