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Minstrel said:
Who has said anything about striking anyone from the history books? History books are the correct place for them. Statues are about honoring people, not preserving history--we can remove statues without removing people from "history." We don't put up statues to Adolf Hitler, for example, but that doesn't mean he's been stricken from history. We just don't choose to honor him with a statue. I'm not saying all of these people are like Hitler, but it's an example of how statues are for memorializing people we would like to celebrate, not for preserving history. I'm fine with not having statues of people who marginalized and dehumanized significant chunks of our population.
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BURN IT ALL DOWN. TAKE THE MUSEUMS NEXT BROTHERS!

FILLED WITH RELICS OF OPPRESSORS OF FUTURES PAST
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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I can’t believe someone impregnated that person
 
Lanny said:
Yes, when I think of Confederate generals and historic slave owners I immediately associate art museums, churches and historical documents.
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Francis Scott Key
Uylesses S Grant
Miguel Cervantes
George Washington
Junipero Serra

These were statues toppled/vandalized in the last 2 days.
 
The father was a boxer but the son seems to be the one brain damaged.

On related topic Trump nominated a list of members for federal sentencing commission. This commission recommends sentencing guidelines for federal crimes. Every nominee is white and male. Is anyone surprised?
 
UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
May the swallows of Capistrano forever shit on the heads of those who tore Junipero down, dammit.
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Yeah I get the others....but why his statue? Dude was champion of human rights.
 
Minstrel said:
Who has said anything about striking anyone from the history books? History books are the correct place for them. Statues are about honoring people, not preserving history--we can remove statues without removing people from "history." We don't put up statues to Adolf Hitler, for example, but that doesn't mean he's been stricken from history. We just don't choose to honor him with a statue. I'm not saying all of these people are like Hitler, but it's an example of how statues are for memorializing people we would like to celebrate, not for preserving history. I'm fine with not having statues of people who marginalized and dehumanized significant chunks of our population.
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Wow, talk about putting words into someone else's mouth. There's a difference between a statement and a question.

I didn't say they would be stricken from the history books...it was only a rhetorical question that I posed, period. And it was also clearly prefaced by my very first sentence by saying "All this retroactive condemnation of historical figures is a bit over the top, IMO."

And to be literal, retroactively speaking, every one of those Presidents I listed "marginalized and dehumanized significant chunks of our population." So you actually helped to prove my point.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Mike Pence says 'all lives matter' when pressed to say 'black lives matter' but acknowledges Juneteenth and laments George Floyd's death as a tragedy
  • Pence made the remarks in interview with Philadelphia ABC affiliate
  • Anchor pressed him repeatedly to 'utter the words' black lives matter
  • Pence declined and responded that 'all lives matter in a very real sense'
  • He also acknowledged Juneteenth and called George Floyd's death a 'tragedy'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-lives-matter-asked-George-Floyds-death.html
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Sorry, gotta go with Pence on this one.
 
Minstrel said:
I didn't say you said they would be. You asked a question and I answered it.

Pretty simple.
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BS...again, it was a "RHETORICAL question"...nothing more, nothing less...you decided to make it into something it wasn't.


"Who has said anything about striking anyone from the history books?"

Pretty simple.
 
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Minstrel said:
By people who aren't aware that black people face unique struggles in this nation, maybe. There are a lot of people who have little to no awareness of racial dynamics in this country.
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I'm pretty sure most all people are/were "aware" but were in denial.

...difference is, now they seem to finally care enough to actually take meaningful action.
 
crandc said:
Taking down statues us not erasing history. I learned about King George III in school but we don't put up statues of him.
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I learned about Hitler in school but I'd be incensed to see a statue of him in a public place where one would have no right to not view it when going about your business or intended as a glorification.
 
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