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EL PRESIDENTE said:
Why the fuck would I hump a statue if I wasn't going to take a picture doing it?

Sounds a little stupid, if you ask me.
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Why would you hump one anyway? Drunkness, I get it. I am sure the eye in the sky sent the cleaning crew down after you got in the elevator

And, I am sure you are not the only who humped it. They probably have a greatest hits video of all the drunk guests who decided it was funny to hump it.
 
Fired Wilmington cop: “We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them f—— ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.”

WILMINGTON — “We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.

These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.

He, along with two other officers have been fired from the department after dash-cam footage recorded two phone conversations — accidentally — and a supervisor conducting a routine audit of the videos found the disturbing content.

Michael ‘Kevin’ Piner, James ‘Brian’ Gilmore, and Jessie E. Moore II were all terminated from the force. The announcement came from the new Chief of Police Donny Williams — not even 24-hours into his first day as chief.

On Wednesday afternoon, members of City Council along with Williams held a press conference to address the conduct of the former police officers. Williams, a nearly 30-year veteran at the department said he was saddened by the actions of the officers, but would have no tolerance for this type of behavior.

“Today is a challenging day for me because as your police chief, one of my first major tasks is to announce the termination of three veteran police officers,” Williams said.

In North Carolina, public records laws typically prevent government agencies from handing out information on personnel; however, in extraordinary circumstances, details can be released to the public.

The former officers actively tried to prevent a release of the information, and an attorney filed an apparently unsuccessful motion for a temporary restraining order, but ultimately the city decided it was the right thing to do.

“Why are we releasing this information this way and at this time? Because it is the right thing to do. Normally, personnel laws allow only a very small amount of information to be made public. However, in exceptional cases, when it is essential to maintain public confidence in the administration of the City and the Police Department, more information may be released. This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career. We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country,” Williams said.

As far as the video goes, Williams said the police would be working with a judge to determine if that footage can be released.

“Lastly, we will be filing a petition in which we will ask the Court to review whether or not some or all of the video, in this case, should be released. The law requires that a judge make that determination and we will support the judiciary by bringing the matter before the Court and supplying any information or other documents that Court may desire,” Williams said.

Willaims and Saffo both stressed the importance of not placing the blame of the three officers on the hundreds of other officers in the department.

The recordings
On June 4, just days after protests began in Wilmington regarding the murder of George Floyd in Minnesota, a Sergeant Heflin was conducting monthly video audits — a routine part of her job — when she came across what was labeled as ‘accidental activations’ from Piner’s car.

Apparently, the car’s camera system was recording despite not being ‘activated’ for an incident (typically cameras are recording at all times but will not keep the recordings unless an officer triggers the system).

After skipping through the video, which was largely video of his backseat, she found a conversation between Piner and Corporal Jessie Moore — a police officer with the department since 1997.

She reviewed the conversation she ‘heard comments, extremely racist comments made by both Piner and Moore,” according to a summary provided by police.

The video also recorded a conversation with Officer Gilmore who apparently had pulled up next to Piner’s car.

Both conversations were explicit and racist in content.

According to the investigation summary, at 6:51 a.m., on a date not listed, Piner and Gilmore are recorded having a conversation.

“Their conversation eventually turned to the topic of the protests against racism occurring across the nation. Piner tells Gilmore that the only thing this agency is concerned with ‘kneeling down with the black folks.’ Gilmore then said that he watched a video on social media about white people bowing down on their knees and ‘worshipping blacks,'” according to the summary.

The conversation then turned to other police officers in the Wilmington Police Department — black officers.

The audio has Piner calling one of the officers ‘bad news’ and a ‘piece of shit.’

“Let’s see how his boys take care of him when shit gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head,” Piner said about a fellow officer.

That conversation ends as Piner goes to respond to an alarm call.

‘A civil war is coming’
The second of the two conversations that day happened after Piner received a phone call from Moore.

According to the summary, “Moore began telling Piner about an arrest he had made at work the day before. During that conversation, Moore refers to the female as a ‘negro’ and a ‘ni—-‘ on multiple occasions.”

He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘fucking negro magistrate.’

“At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.

After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’

“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.

“Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to ‘wipe ’em off the fucking map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.'”

After the conversations were discovered police launched their own investigations into the incidents. None of the officers involved denied saying the things they said, according to WPD>

“Each officer admitted it was their voice on the video. They did not deny saying any of the things heard on the video. Each officer pointed to the stress of today’s climate in law enforcement as a reason for their ‘venting,'” according to the investigation.

Chief Williams took the following corrective actions for the three officers.

  • Termination of employment, not eligible for rehire with the City of Wilmington
  • Notification of the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission in regards to the behaviors. These individuals should not be allowed to practice law enforcement again, he said.
  • Consultation with the District Attorney’s Office regarding these officers being used as witnesses in cases and reviewing any previous cases they might have testified in to determine any bias that might have been exhibited.
You can read the full release of the documents below.

Information for Public Rele As by Michael Praats on Scribd

https://portcitydaily.com/local-new...TRpdU6clh8a_7iOY_AUDe76SvfMAxywUnUPZVnoGzVVgM
 
SlyPokerDog said:
“Each officer admitted it was their voice on the video. They did not deny saying any of the things heard on the video. Each officer pointed to the stress of today’s climate in law enforcement as a reason for their ‘venting,'”
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"Venting"
 
stress of today's climate? fuck that. these three need to be publicly shamed.
 
illmatic99 said:
stress of today's climate? fuck that. these three need to be publicly shamed.
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Shamed?

Cops that blatantly racist have planted evidence and/or lied in police reports and court about black defendants.

All of their cases need to be legitimately reviewed and if even one person is found to be innocent these cops need to go to prison for a very long time.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Fired Wilmington cop: “We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them f—— ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.”

WILMINGTON — “We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fu—– ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.

These are the words of a now-former Wilmington Police Department officer Kevin Piner.

He, along with two other officers have been fired from the department after dash-cam footage recorded two phone conversations — accidentally — and a supervisor conducting a routine audit of the videos found the disturbing content.

Michael ‘Kevin’ Piner, James ‘Brian’ Gilmore, and Jessie E. Moore II were all terminated from the force. The announcement came from the new Chief of Police Donny Williams — not even 24-hours into his first day as chief.

On Wednesday afternoon, members of City Council along with Williams held a press conference to address the conduct of the former police officers. Williams, a nearly 30-year veteran at the department said he was saddened by the actions of the officers, but would have no tolerance for this type of behavior.

“Today is a challenging day for me because as your police chief, one of my first major tasks is to announce the termination of three veteran police officers,” Williams said.

In North Carolina, public records laws typically prevent government agencies from handing out information on personnel; however, in extraordinary circumstances, details can be released to the public.

The former officers actively tried to prevent a release of the information, and an attorney filed an apparently unsuccessful motion for a temporary restraining order, but ultimately the city decided it was the right thing to do.

“Why are we releasing this information this way and at this time? Because it is the right thing to do. Normally, personnel laws allow only a very small amount of information to be made public. However, in exceptional cases, when it is essential to maintain public confidence in the administration of the City and the Police Department, more information may be released. This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career. We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country,” Williams said.

As far as the video goes, Williams said the police would be working with a judge to determine if that footage can be released.

“Lastly, we will be filing a petition in which we will ask the Court to review whether or not some or all of the video, in this case, should be released. The law requires that a judge make that determination and we will support the judiciary by bringing the matter before the Court and supplying any information or other documents that Court may desire,” Williams said.

Willaims and Saffo both stressed the importance of not placing the blame of the three officers on the hundreds of other officers in the department.

The recordings
On June 4, just days after protests began in Wilmington regarding the murder of George Floyd in Minnesota, a Sergeant Heflin was conducting monthly video audits — a routine part of her job — when she came across what was labeled as ‘accidental activations’ from Piner’s car.

Apparently, the car’s camera system was recording despite not being ‘activated’ for an incident (typically cameras are recording at all times but will not keep the recordings unless an officer triggers the system).

After skipping through the video, which was largely video of his backseat, she found a conversation between Piner and Corporal Jessie Moore — a police officer with the department since 1997.

She reviewed the conversation she ‘heard comments, extremely racist comments made by both Piner and Moore,” according to a summary provided by police.

The video also recorded a conversation with Officer Gilmore who apparently had pulled up next to Piner’s car.

Both conversations were explicit and racist in content.

According to the investigation summary, at 6:51 a.m., on a date not listed, Piner and Gilmore are recorded having a conversation.

“Their conversation eventually turned to the topic of the protests against racism occurring across the nation. Piner tells Gilmore that the only thing this agency is concerned with ‘kneeling down with the black folks.’ Gilmore then said that he watched a video on social media about white people bowing down on their knees and ‘worshipping blacks,'” according to the summary.

The conversation then turned to other police officers in the Wilmington Police Department — black officers.

The audio has Piner calling one of the officers ‘bad news’ and a ‘piece of shit.’

“Let’s see how his boys take care of him when shit gets rough, see if they don’t put a bullet in his head,” Piner said about a fellow officer.

That conversation ends as Piner goes to respond to an alarm call.

‘A civil war is coming’
The second of the two conversations that day happened after Piner received a phone call from Moore.

According to the summary, “Moore began telling Piner about an arrest he had made at work the day before. During that conversation, Moore refers to the female as a ‘negro’ and a ‘ni—-‘ on multiple occasions.”

He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘fucking negro magistrate.’

“At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.

After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’

“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.

“Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to ‘wipe ’em off the fucking map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.'”

After the conversations were discovered police launched their own investigations into the incidents. None of the officers involved denied saying the things they said, according to WPD>

“Each officer admitted it was their voice on the video. They did not deny saying any of the things heard on the video. Each officer pointed to the stress of today’s climate in law enforcement as a reason for their ‘venting,'” according to the investigation.

Chief Williams took the following corrective actions for the three officers.

  • Termination of employment, not eligible for rehire with the City of Wilmington
  • Notification of the North Carolina Criminal Justice Education and Training Standards Commission in regards to the behaviors. These individuals should not be allowed to practice law enforcement again, he said.
  • Consultation with the District Attorney’s Office regarding these officers being used as witnesses in cases and reviewing any previous cases they might have testified in to determine any bias that might have been exhibited.
You can read the full release of the documents below.

Information for Public Rele As by Michael Praats on Scribd

https://portcitydaily.com/local-new...TRpdU6clh8a_7iOY_AUDe76SvfMAxywUnUPZVnoGzVVgM
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That's not venting. That is being a psycho racist asshole
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Shamed?

Cops that blatantly racist have planted evidence and/or lied in police reports and court about black defendants.

All of their cases need to be legitimately reviewed and if even one person is found to be innocent these cops need to go to prison for a very long time.
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that too
 
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Now, before you go all ballistic on me...check out these two videos. They both make compelling arguments against this notion and are doing their best to bring another perspective. Definitely eye-opening to me.



 
I mean for gods sake, the argument that 'more white people' are shot by police than black people is the biggest red herring ever. Yes, it is technically correct that more white people are shot by the police, but it's skewing the facts.

In 2020, about 172 white people have been shot by the police, and 88 black people have been shot by the police. So obviously that means racism is dead, because you know, more white people are shot than black people.

But using that argument fails to take into account the FACT that there are about 5x more white people, than there are black people.

So the #'s should be something like 88 black people and 440 white people being shot. But that's not the case. And it's *never* been the case.
 
Not only that, the first video seems to be made for people who want to bury their heads in the sand and tout that "See? What I'm saying can't be racist, a black man agrees with me!"

To imply that the country doesn't have an issue with systemic racism seems to indicate that the person has no idea what systemic racism actually means.

Yes, there are many cases where the person killed had a criminal past. But look at the cases of black people doing crimes that white people do and are killed instead of allowed to live vs that of whites.

And then tell me about the cases where people are killed in their own homes by the police, or at traffic stops...Hell, you don't even have to bring in death. What about the # of times a person of color is pulled over for driving, while committing no crime?? Or followed around a store...or mistaken for another person of color? Or was a kid playing with a toy gun? Or legally buying a gun in a store and threatening NO ONE. Or are asked why they're in a neighborhood they "don't belong"? Or are questioned for their hairstyles, told to cut them off during a wrestling match (telling them to cut their hair was against the rules)?


As for Candace Owens, ask most black people what they think of her. You'll be amazed.

This is really not a good look for your ABM, especially after you seemingly made progress with understanding things after seeing that documentary on netflix.
 
systemic racism isn't exclusive to black people in this country...Hispanics, Muslims, Native Americans and Asians experience it too...Asians especially now...this IS a dumb converwsation and not one white people should promote in my view. What is going on in America is important concerning racism and brutality....watering it down to assuage white guilt is not a good look....dumb thread
 
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Candace Owens? The woman who said Hitler was making Germany great again?

ABM found the only two African American Trump supporters in the country and decided racism doesn't exist. Maybe check in with the other 99.9 percent?

And how do you explain racial gaps in prenatal care, early childhood education, schools, housing, environmental pollution, enployment, wages, total wealth, health care, political representation, representation in other positions of power, police violence, life expectancy? Just plain inferior?
 
julius said:
I mean for gods sake, the argument that 'more white people' are shot by police than black people is the biggest red herring ever. Yes, it is technically correct that more white people are shot by the police, but it's skewing the facts.
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She clarified that point.
 
Meanwhile, we'll just keep on occupying areas and tearing down communities and monuments, etc., in the name of systemic racism. There's real progress.
 
ABM said:
Meanwhile, we'll just keep on occupying areas and tearing down communities and monuments, etc., in the name of systemic racism. There's real progress.
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Meanwhile, we'll just keep acting like there's not a problem with racism in this country. That's real progress.
 
ABM said:
Meanwhile, we'll just keep on occupying areas and tearing down communities and monuments, etc., in the name of systemic racism. There's real progress.
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Maybe if this country had a leader (interesting thought) who stood up and said, “Hey, we agree with you. There IS A racial injustice problem in America. And we intend to deal with it and these are legal and moral steps we’re going to take to end it once and for all. (An actual, viable plan in other words). And then ask the “resistance” to dial down their militance and work with the administration to get the ball rolling in the right direction. Working for real solutions in other words. That is what a real leader does. Instead we have a child who stamps his feet, makes threats and continues business as usual. And then you wonder why the protests continue. It wouldn’t surprise me if the protests continue until the election and far beyond based on the inaction/disinterest of a conservative (read “racist”) administration and it’s followers.
 
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