Blazer "dealing with rejection" in GM search

[Pinwheel1]

I wonder how many GM's out there would grade an A over the same time period. Most players who are drafted are average at best. So unless they had a high lottery pick for the last 9 years I am not sure we would be impressed with more than a handful of a GM's picks.

The last few years have not been great. But i do think Patty Mills was a solid pick by PA and Dante Cunningham was solid as well where they were picked. The verdict is still out on Babbitt and Williams. I mean look at this draft and tell me how many players you would rather have over our guys. I count 4. Lot of misses in this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_Draft

Smith over Faried was an obvious mistake last year

 

[Mediocre Man]

I have more of an issue with the Euros we "collected" and stashed from the first round. Just simply a waste of assets, IMO

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I wonder how many GM's out there would grade an A over the same time period. Most players who are drafted are average at best. So unless they had a high lottery pick for the last 9 years I am not sure we would be impressed with more than a handful of a GM's picks.

The last few years have not been great. But i do think Patty Mills was a solid pick by PA and Dante Cunningham was solid as well where they were picked. The verdict is still out on Babbitt and Williams. I mean look at this draft and tell me how many players you would rather have over our guys. I count 4. Lot of misses in this group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_Draft

Smith over Faried was an obvious mistake last year

HUGE when you factor in that Nolan looks like he'll be out of the League in a few years and we made Denver, a Div. rival, better.

 

[RoyToy]

I think Wark has proven that he's pretty good as a talent evaluator. We could use some help there. Not sure how excited I'd be with him in-charge as the GM, though.

You don't have to really worry about that

Larry Miller curiously went out of his way in 2010 to say that Mark Warkentien wouldn't be a candidate to replace Kevin Pritchard.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

You don't have to really worry about that

Larry Miller curiously went out of his way in 2010 to say that Mark Warkentien wouldn't be a candidate to replace Kevin Pritchard.

Worry? I'm worried we won't have a talent evaluator in place when NOW we need one as much as ever. It's not just about drafting, it's about knowing whether or not we want to draft anyone, or if we can acquire better talent via trading the picks. I like Buchanan, but I'd feel much better with a more experienced person running the show.

Hell, or if Buchanan is the man, just come out and say it!

 

[Pinwheel1]

I have more of an issue with the Euros we "collected" and stashed from the first round. Just simply a waste of assets, IMO

It has frustrated me as well, but really the overall strategy of doing it was solid. (I assume by KP) Teams are limited to 15 players and this way KP was able to expand the roster while basically stashing players over seas in order to see if they panned out. The alternative was cutting decent players. At the time we had too many young players. We have not done it since V Claver. The Claver pick however was frustrating. But Freeland still may turn out though. Again i don't like the strategy but i can see the reasoning behind it.

 

[PapaG]

It has frustrated me as well, but really the overall strategy of doing it was solid. (I assume by KP) Teams are limited to 15 players and this way KP was able to expand the roster while basically stashing players over seas in order to see if they panned out. The alternative was cutting decent players. At the time we had too many young players. We have not done it since V Claver. The Claver pick however was frustrating. But Freeland still may turn out though. Again i don't like the strategy but i can see the reasoning behind it.

Plus, everybody assumed Nic was going to stay in Europe when he was drafted. I remember most posters being surprised when we learned he was coming to the NBA, and a lot of disappointment in his pick when he was so bad during his first summer league. He didn't look at all like he belonged in the NBA, and it looked like a waste of a roster spot.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

It has frustrated me as well, but really the overall strategy of doing it was solid. (I assume by KP) Teams are limited to 15 players and this way KP was able to expand the roster while basically stashing players over seas in order to see if they panned out. The alternative was cutting decent players. At the time we had too many young players. We have not done it since V Claver. The Claver pick however was frustrating. But Freeland still may turn out though. Again i don't like the strategy but i can see the reasoning behind it.

Funny, though. I don't remember too many complaints from Portland fans when we started doing this. Everyone seemed super excited about it. But again, winning cures a lot of ills. And Portland was on the upswing, started winning games, and were stashing extra bodies overseason. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Plus, everybody assumed Nic was going to stay in Europe when he was drafted. I remember most posters being surprised when we learned he was coming to the NBA, and a lot of disappointment in his pick when he was so bad during his first summer league. He didn't look at all like he belonged in the NBA, and it looked like a waste of a roster spot.

Dude, I remember listening to local sports radio and everyone was up in arms. They were absolutely complaining about how terrible Batum looked. The local guys were too. Kerry Eggers was just beating on him, saying there's no way he's in Portland for at least a year, but he was scoffed at the 1-year notion even, and said he shouldn't be here for 2-3 years at least. I can't believe what a different player he was come the start of his rookie year.

 

[MickZagger]

Funny, though. I don't remember too many complaints from Portland fans when we started doing this. Everyone seemed super excited about it. But again, winning cures a lot of ills. And Portland was on the upswing, started winning games, and were stashing extra bodies overseason. Hindsight is 20/20.

Thats the way I remember it as well. It was the San Antonio model for success.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Thats the way I remember it as well. It was the San Antonio model for success.

It still is.

 

[jlprk]

Funny, though. I don't remember too many complaints from Portland fans when we started doing this. Everyone seemed super excited about it. But again, winning cures a lot of ills. And Portland was on the upswing, started winning games, and were stashing extra bodies overseason. Hindsight is 20/20.

Which hindsight is irrelevant?

1) Players who weren't stars in Summer League, like Koponen and Nenad Sinanovic, should have been given a try in the regular season. After all, look at Batum.

2) Players who were stars in the Summer League, like Bayless and Qyntel, should have been warehoused in Europe.

3) We should have cut a couple of our worst players every year to make room for Euros drafted that year. Otherwise, stop wasting picks bought with Allen's money and drop the whole stashing strategy. It's stupid if you never bring them over.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Funny, though. I don't remember too many complaints from Portland fans when we started doing this. Everyone seemed super excited about it. But again, winning cures a lot of ills. And Portland was on the upswing, started winning games, and were stashing extra bodies overseason. Hindsight is 20/20.

I was complaining....not surprising, I know



The issue I had was that we needed talent at the time, and couldn't really afford to stash Euros.

 

[blazedanugz]

Morway meeting with Allen on Friday via Adrian w

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Morway meeting with Allen on Friday via Adrian w

Old news. Keep up, son!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Old news. Keep up, son!

In before The HCP points out his low post count

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

In before The HCP points out his low post count

LOL. Where is HCP today?

 

[Mediocre Man]

LOL. Where is HCP today?

He's not at his house, I can tell you that

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

He's not at his house, I can tell you that

Yeah, he left pretty early this AM. Surprised he's not back yet.

 

[santeesioux]

David Morway looks like he belongs in Oblivion

 

[blazedanugz]

Old news. Keep up, son!

really? was it posted?...dad?

 

[Mediocre Man]

really? was it posted?...dad?

It was posted in the David Morway thread

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

really? was it posted?...dad?

Yes, it was (in another thread). I was just giving you shit, son.

 

[blazedanugz]

my mistake. you guys are quick

 

[Hype #9]

Rick Sund is a candidate too:

With the Atlanta Hawks eliminated from the playoffs, changes could be in order on the court and in the front office. General manager Rick Sund, in the last year of his contract, has drawn interest from the Portland Trail Blazers, according to sources.

The Blazers recently asked the Hawks for permission to speak to Sund, but Hawks ownership refused to grant permission until its season ended. Sund agreed with ownership's stance.

"I don't want to discuss anything until the end of the season," Sund said by telephone before Thursday's season-ending 83-80 loss to the Boston Celtics. "At the end of the season, we'll address the future."

Sund's contract ends on June 30 and the Hawks have attempted to initiate talks about a contract extension. However, Sund, in his fourth year in Atlanta, has insisted on keeping his options open, the sources said.

While no interview with Portland had been scheduled as of late Thursday night, a meeting between Sund and the Blazers is likely.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...say?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

 

[Mediocre Man]

Rick Sund is a candidate too:



http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7...say?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Cool. Another not bad hire on paper. Nothing over or underwhelming

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Cool. Another not bad hire on paper. Nothing over or underwhelming

He's "keeping his options open"?? I expect it's going to turn into a situation of him dragging Portland into negotiations so he can get a bigger payday from Atlanta.

Hasn't that happened a few times in the last decade when we've been searching for a GM?

 

[Mediocre Man]

He's "keeping his options open"?? I expect it's going to turn into a situation of him dragging Portland into negotiations so he can get a bigger payday from Atlanta.

Hasn't that happened a few times in the last decade when we've been searching for a GM?

Just about every time, I think?

I'm not so sure Atlanta would block that. They might be looking for a change

 

[3RA1N1AC]

no thanks on sund, the hawks are basically where we are right now

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

A second-rate franchise hiring a second-rate candidate (Sund)

...Makes sense.