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Ok ok humor me..... Give me the quality wins of the 8. If we are so good then why are u giddy over beating bad teams? Aren't we suppose to?? So give me the big wins.

What happens when the threes stop falling???

We beat the 9-1 Spurs by 10 and the 7-3 Clippers by 13. Quality enough for ya?

And why will the threes stop falling? We have a roster full of good 3-point shooters. It's not like our guys are shooting out of their minds. Some are a little above their career averages, some are a little below. It's not like we are totally reliant on one or two 3-point shooters and if they go cold we are doomed. 5 of our top 7 players are good to excellent 3-point shooters. In an offense designed to create open looks, those guys are going to knock down those shots.

BNM
 
That is ridiculous. Moneyball?!?!?! Do u follow baseball?! What they fail to tell u about that team..... They had Eric Chavez in his early years, Miguel Tejada, and Tim Hudson. Three all stars. I believe they also had Koch who was a dominant closer.

The blazers have vets every team wanted. Wright Lopez and mo would have been gone elsewhere easily. Hattenberg, justice, giambi and Bradford were like waiver wire signings. Nobody wanted em! Great movie but this isn't in the same universe as the blazers! Ur lost.

lol. The fact that you just called Koch a dominant closer... wow.
 
We beat the 9-1 Spurs by 10 and the 7-3 Clippers by 13. Quality enough for ya?

And why will the threes stop falling? We have a roster full of good 3-point shooters. It's not like our guys are shooting out of their minds. Some are a little above their career averages, some are a little below. It's not like we are totally reliant on one or two 3-point shooters and if they go cold we are doomed. 5 of our top 7 players are good to excellent 3-point shooters. In an offense designed to create open looks, those guys are going to knock down those shots.

BNM

yep, well said..dont forget the 7 and 2 at the time Suns and so on..we have not played anyone that was a cupcake..even the Raptors/refs VS the Blazers was a solid win with everything taken into account
 
Long story short, Jerome Kersey agrees with BNM and so do I. The Blazers can hit open three's at a high clip, they can defend against their opponents shooting a high clip from behind the arc, and they can do just enough of everything else to “win the war.”

I missed Kersey's comments. Were they in print (link), or on TV? If so, what program? If it's something like Talking Ball, I may be able to catch a repeat showing.

BNM
 
I missed Kersey's comments. Were they in print (link), or on TV? If so, what program? If it's something like Talking Ball, I may be able to catch a repeat showing.

BNM

Talkingball after the Toronto game.
 
Sac x2, Boston are definitely cupcakes.

last year, this sac team would have handed us our collective asses..their bigs are tough

Boston is a far better team than on paper..I would bet they are a playoff team
 
To me, the real question is this:

Are we too 1-dimensional so that teams will be able to adjust and slow us down?

We are defending other teams against the 3 pointer very well because we focus on it. We focus on it because we identify it has a huge weapon. Will other teams be able to slow us down if / when they realize they need to put more emphasis on the 3pt defense against us?

I'm hoping that if that happens, we can adjust and use LMA to make them pay.
 
Koch was great that season.... No question about it. He's not a hall of famer but was Allstar worthy that season. Look it up. I know my baseball. If miss fanatic wants to quote baseball movies and compare with blazers then she better bring heavy ammo.
 
Look it as much as u all wanna jump on me... The 8 wins are not great teams. Just be truthful and not homers all I'm asking.
 
To me, the real question is this:

Are we too 1-dimensional so that teams will be able to adjust and slow us down?

We are defending other teams against the 3 pointer very well because we focus on it. We focus on it because we identify it has a huge weapon. Will other teams be able to slow us down if / when they realize they need to put more emphasis on the 3pt defense against us?

I'm hoping that if that happens, we can adjust and use LMA to make them pay.

we can always toss it into Lopez or Freeland, have Nic cut to the hole..let Our guards dart inside, LMA roll to the hoop..all the things that make "normal" defenses and coaches go friggen crazy..frees up the outside real fast..I have noticed us doing that in games already
 
How much money you wanna put on it? I'll go up to $1000

dunno..man..It really would not surprise me if they did. The factors are they have most of what they believe to be the building blocks for their future, remember PDX with Roy Oden and LMA? the young guns that played lose?

They are in the east

A lot of teams have the potential to tank this season to chase the "all star" in waiting

what do you see I do not?
 
Are we too 1-dimensional so that teams will be able to adjust and slow us down?

I'm not concerned about teams adjusting to our offense. If they defend the 3 then Aldridge will have single coverage down low, Damian and Mo will be able to drive, Nic can run the pic and roll. We have many options on offense and shutting one down will open another door.

I am very concerned about teams adjusting to our defense though. If we don't defend the penetration better we will give up a lot of layups. Teams have killed us inside, and they've still been missing numerous easy interior shots. If those start to fall we could give up 70+ points in the paint. If teams learn to attack our centers more they may get into routine foul trouble. I think we need to learn to switch up the defense and go to a zone for stretches, or at least experiment with double teams. Our default defense could be this "money ball" approach, but we should flash other looks. If an opponent knows a double team is never coming they can adjust their offense and exploit it. Good teams give an opponent multiple looks on defense.
 
dunno..man..It really would not surprise me if they did. The factors are they have most of what they believe to be the building blocks for their future, remember PDX with Roy Oden and LMA? the young guns that played lose?

They are in the east

A lot of teams have the potential to tank this season to chase the "all star" in waiting

what do you see I do not?

Are we talking about the same team? Boston's best player is Jeff Green and Avery Bradley. They wouldn't start on hardly any playoff teams. Their injured franchise player is coming off major ACL reconstruction and is months away from returning. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have the worst record in the east.
 
Are we talking about the same team? Boston's best player is Jeff Green and Avery Bradley. They wouldn't start on hardly any playoff teams. Their injured franchise player is coming off major ACL reconstruction and is months away from returning. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have the worst record in the east.

hmmm I was under the impression they blew the team apart to get draft picks in order to build a young team..let me look
 
Are we talking about the same team? Boston's best player is Jeff Green and Avery Bradley. They wouldn't start on hardly any playoff teams. Their injured franchise player is coming off major ACL reconstruction and is months away from returning. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they have the worst record in the east.

4 and seven..not so flattering, I agree

they did beat the heat, the magic x2 and Utah..not traditionally wimps but in a tanking year...good grief
 
Look it as much as u all wanna jump on me... The 8 wins are not great teams. Just be truthful and not homers all I'm asking.

Don't flatter yourself. If you wanted attention, you just had to ask.

In response to your on-going inquiries: no, I’m not a fan of baseball, I am not single (it’s Mrs.), and no, the point of my post is not to draw player to player comparisons between the former A’s and the current Blazers, simply that both teams sought to win a different way from the big market teams. And Blazer fans should accept what the Blazers are trying to do before screaming about what’s wrong with Portland.

But those were all very clever and witty questions an observations, and I assure you I am thoroughly intimidated by someone that can’t find the edit button. I just want to apologize on behalf of intelligent, attractive, socially adept people everywhere, for whatever happened to you as a child that turned you into the colossal attention whore of a man you are today.

Of course, a great deal of blame lies in our education system. They obviously didn't take into consideration your special needs. I mean how were you able to keep up with the normal kids? You can barely string a sentence together. Think how happy you would have been in a classroom of your mental peers. You’d just be there all day in a room making things out of play-doe and elbow macaroni, how grand that would have been. Why couldn't they have realized that you are boarder-line retarded?

Oh, there's no reason to deny it. Your IP address and persistently antagonizing posters say it all. But by all means, please, go on.
 
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Hahahaha who is the unlucky guy?! Jesus I bet he's happy when a blazer game is on!

As for ur moneyball theory.... Who said the fans aren't buying it?? Are the blazers in last place like the a's were?! Did the blazers lose 3 elite free agents? Is their GM strapped for money cause owner is cheap???

I could go on but it's time for u to sit down jr... I mean mrs.

Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh just used edit button
 
Don't flatter yourself. If you wanted attention, you just had to ask.

In response to your on-going inquiries: no, I’m not a fan of baseball, I am not single (it’s Mrs.), and no, the point of my post is not to draw player to player comparisons between the former A’s and the current Blazers, simply that both teams sought to win a different way from the big market teams. And Blazer fans should accept what the Blazers are trying to do before screaming about what’s wrong with Portland.

But those were all very clever and witty questions an observations, and I assure you I am thoroughly intimidated by someone that can’t find the edit button. I just want to apologize on behalf of intelligent, attractive, socially adept people everywhere, for whatever happened to you as a child that turned you into the colossal attention whore of a man you are today.

Of course, a great deal of blame lies in our education system. They obviously didn't take into consideration your special needs. I mean how were you able to keep up with the normal kids? You can barely string a sentence together. Think how happy you would have been in a classroom of your mental peers. You’d just be there all day in a room making things out of play-doe and elbow macaroni, how grand that would have been. Why couldn't they have realized that you are boarder-line retarded?

Oh, there's no reason to deny it. Your IP address and persistently antagonizing posters say it all. But by all means, please, go on.

Gonna rep this post before it gets deleted by the mods!

BNM
 
Hahahaha who is the unlucky guy?! Jesus I bet he's happy when a blazer game is on!

As for ur moneyball theory.... Who said the fans aren't buying it?? Are the blazers in last place like the a's were?! Did the blazers lose 3 elite free agents? Is their GM strapped for money cause owner is cheap???

I could go on but it's time for u to sit down jr... I mean mrs.

Sssshhhhhhhhhhhh just used edit button

What you failed to grasp isn't the actual "money ball" series of events. It's that certain statistical concepts are winning the games. The things like trying to stop paint points moreso than three pointers aren't as important. Shit like that.

Just sit down and make that top forty mix
 
It's funny. If we lose these 9 games, people would be saying we should have won them because they are teams we're supposed to beat. But then, we do a horrible thing and win them, now we're still a bad team because were no good against the real teams.

Well, we'd be REALLY not good if we lost them and lost to the real teams too. So....
 
Nobody has to delete anything I'm not five years old. It's fine I wanna hear more moneyball blazers fun facts.

Did u know Lillards father was in the stands when hattenberg hits the homer to get Oakland the streak?!

See what I did there?!
 
U mean what every team in nba does??

What about the team we just beat by 10 points on their home court? They have a $101 million payroll and will be paying over $80 million in luxury tax, and are currently in last place in the worst division in the NBA (the 1st place team is 2 games under .500) with a 3-7 record.

Their roster was assembled using the exact opposite of money ball principles. They went out and over paid a bunch of big name players who are way past their primes, hired a coach with a recognizable name, but no prior coaching experience, threw it all together and thought they be contenders and seriously challenge Miami's dominance in the Eastern Conference.

In my East vs. West thread I started last week, I hypothesized that this year's Nets are the equivalent of last year's Lakers. Old, expensive and injury prone. But, this Nets team is even worse and more overpaid.

$101 million payroll + $80 million luxury tax = 3-7 record. That isn't money ball, that's waste-of-money ball.

BNM
 

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