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PtldPlatypus said:
Interesting. I'd say you're probably undervaluing playoff games and over-valuing the all-star/all NBA selections. But still, interesting to look at it formulaically.
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Interesting. If I re-run the numbers and double the impact of playoff games, some of the 'big' movers are: Roy (drops 1 spots), Wallace (up 2 spots), Paxson (down 2), Wicks (down 3), Buck (up 2), Duckworth (up 5), and Petrie (down 3).

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Nice suggestion. I like that sort a bit better.

There are a lot of great names on that list. It's hard to move any of them down.
 
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Mt. Rushmore Opposite - Worst 4 players in each position

PG: Felton, Dikau, Smith, Telfair (Johnson)
SG: Monia, Webster, Brunson, Turner
SF: Qyntel Woods, Darius Miles, Claver, Patterson
PF: Meyers Leonard, Kemp, Khryapa, Abdur-Rahim
C: Ha Seung- Jin, Boumtje-Boumtje, Will Perdue, Stephania (Oden, Bowie)
 
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riverman said:
Hashim Thabeet…
Sasha Pavlovic
Raymond Felton
Nolan Smith
Gary Trent sr
Armond Johnson
Johnny Flynn
Jared Jeffries
TRob
man this would be a long list..I'll stop now
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It gets far worse
 
Chris Craig said:
Mt. Rushmore Opposite - Worst 4 players in each position

PG: Felton, Dikau, Smith, Telfair (Johnson)
SG: Monia, Webster, Brunson, Turner
SF: Qyntel Woods, Darius Miles, Claver, Patterson
PF: Meyers Leonard, Kemp, Khryapa, Abdur-Rahim
C: Ha Seung- Jin, Boumtje-Boumtje, Will Perdue, Stephania Oden, Bowie)
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How can you have Khryapa but omit Monia?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Not on BBRef. But I'm sure he's listed there somewhere.

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Anyway, I'm glad you didn't forget him. We should never forget.
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I would like to point out his age.

There was a debate on here about 30 years and one day being the same as 30 years and 300 days old.

I see they list Serge as 35 and 121 days...

May have been semantics, but 30 and 300 days is indeed older than 30 and 1 day.


I have solved the great age debate!!!!!!!!
 
SG. JIM PAXSON, DAME
PG. PORTER,STRICKLAND STOUDAMIRE
SF. KERSEY,ROBINSON
PF. MAURICE LUCAS, BUCK
C. SABONIS,WALTON(without a microphone),DUCK
 
Paxson over Dame is ridonculous. 1st off Dame is a PG. The best in the team's history IMO. Paxson was a very good SG. Never spectacular, but the ultimate "Steady Eddy". Drexler is the Blazers best SG, period! I loved Roy's game, but he just wasn't healthy enough to overtake Clyde. Walton ,even in his short tenure, was heads above any other center in the team's history. Not close in my opinion. PF is the hardest position to give a hands down "who is the best" in Blazers history. Luke, Buck, LA, all could be the number 1. Each had their own identity on their teams. I feel Maurice and Buck were glue guys for their respective teams, and had huge impacts on those team's success. But LaMarcus had the biggest skillset, and to me, is the best PF overall. Tough, being that he shafted the Blazers and their fans. LA on this current team, what might have been. SF goes to the heart and soul of the Blazers, Jerome Kersey. "rip city!"
 
tykendo said:
Paxson over Dame is ridonculous. 1st off Dame is a PG. The best in the team's history IMO. Paxson was a very good SG. Never spectacular, but the ultimate "Steady Eddy". Drexler is the Blazers best SG, period! I loved Roy's game, but he just wasn't healthy enough to overtake Clyde. Walton ,even in his short tenure, was heads above any other center in the team's history. Not close in my opinion. PF is the hardest position to give a hands down "who is the best" in Blazers history. Luke, Buck, LA, all could be the number 1. Each had their own identity on their teams. I feel Maurice and Buck were glue guys for their respective teams, and had huge impacts on those team's success. But LaMarcus had the biggest skillset, and to me, is the best PF overall. Tough, being that he shafted the Blazers and their fans. LA on this current team, what might have been. SF goes to the heart and soul of the Blazers, Jerome Kersey. "rip city!"
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I agree with a lot of this and as you know I don’t have the luxury of having watched Walton a lot, but from what I saw of Sabonis I don’t think he’s way behind. It would have been great to see him come over when he was younger.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
I agree with a lot of this and as you know I don’t have the luxury of having watched Walton a lot, but from what I saw of Sabonis I don’t think he’s way behind. It would have been great to see him come over when he was younger.
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Oh I agree. The young Sabonis was an athletic dynamo who dominated everyone he played. He was beat up, heavy, and slow by the time he got to Portland. He could run the floor in his youth and might have made the Clyde/Terry/Buck/ and Jerome Blazers unbeatable. Sabonis was good, but in his health state with the Blazers, not close to Walton. Walton, when healthy, was one of the greatest centers in the history of the league.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Porter, Lillard, Strickland, Anderson (hm Stoudamire)

Drexler, Petrie, Paxson, McCollum (hm Roy)

Kersey. Pippen, Natt, Vandeweghe (Batum)

Lucas, Aldridge, Wallace, Robinson (Grant, Wicks)

Walton, Sabonis, Duckworth, Thompson (Nurkic)
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Your Roy hate is shining through.

As much as I hate Kobe and Tom Brady, I still have to give credit where it's due.
 
tykendo said:
Oh I agree. The young Sabonis was an athletic dynamo who dominated everyone he played. He was beat up, heavy, and slow by the time he got to Portland. He could run the floor in his youth and might have made the Clyde/Terry/Buck/ and Jerome Blazers unbeatable. Sabonis was good, but in his health state with the Blazers, not close to Walton. Walton, when healthy, was one of the greatest centers in the history of the league.
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If That 2000 team hadn’t of folded to the Lakers and had finished off the run to the championship, how would that effect how we think of some of those guys? Sabonis / sheed / pippen?
I know it doesn’t matter because they lost just curious if that would have bumped them up for you?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
If That 2000 team hadn’t of folded to the Lakers and had finished off the run to the championship, how would that effect how we think of some of those guys? Sabonis / sheed / pippen?
I know it doesn’t matter because they lost just curious if that would have bumped them up for you?
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Like a knife to my heart, even after all these years.
 
dviss1 said:
Your Roy hate is shining through.

As much as I hate Kobe and Tom Brady, I still have to give credit where it's due.
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Points
Behind all but 1, and CJ will pass him this season

Games played
Behind all

Assists
Behind all but 1

I think it's peoples unexplained love for Roy that should be questioned.

He was a good player who benefitted from an ISO offense

He's easily behind Clyde, Paxson and Petrie. You could argue CJ, but that's it
 
Mediocre Man said:
Points
Behind all but 1, and CJ will pass him this season

Games played
Behind all

Assists
Behind all but 1

I think it's peoples unexplained love for Roy that should be questioned.

He was a good player who benefitted from an ISO offense

He's easily behind Clyde, Paxson and Petrie. You could argue CJ, but that's it
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John Paxton was a system player...

#yesIsaidit

:smiley-hvala:
 
Anybody up for a list of the Death Valley of Blazers starters?
 
Mediocre Man said:
Points
Behind all but 1, and CJ will pass him this season

Games played
Behind all

Assists
Behind all but 1

I think it's peoples unexplained love for Roy that should be questioned.

He was a good player who benefitted from an ISO offense

He's easily behind Clyde, Paxson and Petrie. You could argue CJ, but that's it
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Roy’s main problem was his knees right... Of he stays healthy for a few more years he would be much further up all of those lists.

Almost all players are “system” players except like the GOATs, but even great players thrive in systems that play to their strengths and a good coach puts in a system that makes their best players better. Can’t take away that iso or not BRoy was an awesome SG for a short time.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Roy’s main problem was his knees right... Of he stays healthy for a few more years he would be much further up all of those lists.

Almost all players are “system” players except like the GOATs, but even great players thrive in systems that play to their strengths and a good coach puts in a system that makes their best players better. Can’t take away that iso or not BRoy was an awesome SG for a short time.
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Ok, but it was top 4. To me, hes not in that group.

Had Oden stayed healthy he would have been awesome. He wasn't, so he's not on the list.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Ok, but it was top 4. To me, hes not in that group.

Had Oden stayed healthy he would have been awesome. He wasn't, so he's not on the list.
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Well you can have that opinion if you’d like too, I don’t have to share it with you.
Paxson definitely stayed healthy and had a very long career and he was also a very solid player.
My point was I don’t really like the “system” player arguement most guys play better in a system that plays to their strengths.
 
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