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Pinwheel1 said:
Babbitt dribbling in traffic is not going to ever work. Babbitt as a one-on-one defender is never going to be pretty.

But Babbitt has strengths as well. During the summer they want to see if he has expanded those strengths. If he hasn't then during the season only put him in a situation where his strengths can be best utilized. And right now he is still a very effective outside shooter. He will help spread the floor.

Personally I think he would be very effective in SA. Somehow Pop gets everyone to play within his team concept on D, And on offense Babbitt would be very effective shooting from the corners.
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I don't know if I'd go so far as to say he's a "very effective shooter". I think he can be an effective shooter, but if his shot isn't falling he's pretty much worthless. He's also a sub-par defender.
 
Masbee said:
We also lost Wallace and Camby.

Those are the only two of any import that we lost from last season.

We have added no one that will replace either.
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I think Hickson is a close replacement to one of those bodies.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I don't know if I'd go so far as to say he's a "very effective shooter". I think he can be an effective shooter, but if his shot isn't falling he's pretty much worthless. He's also a sub-par defender.
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His role should be to strictly spread the floor and shoot the three ball. Now of course if the shot is off that night than he will be worthless, but for the most part every team has one of those designated players. And I think Babbitt can shoot an open three better than most bench players in the NBA.

But yeah he is a sub par defender.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
His role should be to strictly spread the floor and shoot the three ball. Now of course if the shot is off that night than he will be worthless, but for the most part every team has one of those designated players. And I think Babbitt can shoot an open three better than most bench players in the NBA.

But yeah he is a sub par defender.
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With the addition of Claver, Freeland and Jeffries and Nicolas certain to log 36+ minutes per game, something tells me that Luke is going to be in a suit most of the year.
 
Nikolokolus said:
With the addition of Claver, Freeland and Jeffries and Nicolas certain to log 36+ minutes per game, something tells me that Luke is going to be in a suit most of the year.
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No argument from me. If Claver stays healthy I fully expect him to get Luke's minutes at the 3. And at the 4...... Luke is way down the list.
 
blazedanugz said:
I was unaware we got a 3.5 million trade exception in the Felton trade. What does that leave our cap at?
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We're actually about 2.5M under the cap right now. So, if needed to trade for a player that would put us over the cap whose salary fits into that exception, then we can use it to do that. Otherwise, it probably won't make any difference.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
His role should be to strictly spread the floor and shoot the three ball. Now of course if the shot is off that night than he will be worthless, but for the most part every team has one of those designated players. And I think Babbitt can shoot an open three better than most bench players in the NBA.

But yeah he is a sub par defender.
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Well, I think there's a significant difference between a "very effective shooter" and just an "effective shooter". Babbitt has shown to be pretty streaky, and if he can ONLY shoot the three, it makes him pretty easy to guard.
 
It just dawned on me, numbers and analytics aside, I hate watching Babbitt play
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, I think there's a significant difference between a "very effective shooter" and just an "effective shooter". Babbitt has shown to be pretty streaky, and if he can ONLY shoot the three, it makes him pretty easy to guard.
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Aren't most shooters who come off the bench streaky?

Babbitt was only shooting 3's last year, and was one of the league leaders. I would categorize that as being a very effective shooter. Again I don't see him getting a lot of minutes based on his other deficiencies, but give credit where credit is due, the guy can shoot the long ball.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
He doesn't need to, but it'd certainly be nice.
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It would be nice, but more than likely that will be his role. A role that a lot of teams, depending on the offense they run, like to have in their offense. His man will not be helping out on any double teams if Luke is sitting out 24 feet from the basket. But again we are discussing a 3rd team bench player.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
It would be nice, but more than likely that will be his role. A role that a lot of teams, depending on the offense they run, like to have in their offense. His man will not be helping out on any double teams if Luke is sitting out 24 feet from the basket. But again we are discussing a 3rd team bench player.
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I agee, I do thinkhe'd have a much better chance having a consistent role if he improved his team defense, if not his individual defense as well.
 
OLDSchool_BlazerFAN said:
OP - You think Babbit sucks?

You people are amazing.
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Yes, yes I do think Babbitt sucks - big time.

Why? I've watched these summer league games very closely. Here's what I've found:

He doesn't play defense, which results in
his man scoring - a lot
his man getting assists, because LB needs help
his man getting fouls - on LB and on help defenders
He doesn't rebound well. People says he does, but remember he's playing PF
His transition defense is atrocious.
He doesn't really care that his defense is bad, so he won't improve.
I'm sure there's more, but hopefully you get the idea

LB can make up for these sins by hitting 45% on 3s. However, on nights where he's missing, he's just killing the team.

Last point: Here's what you want on a championship team:
Big 3
Role Players who can defend + shoot the 3
Role Players who can defend + rebound

If you're not a great 1-on-1 individual defender you can make up for it by being a good team defender (See Steve Kerr)

Babbitt doesn't fit any of these roles, and likely never will.
 
If our team really starts to suck this year, he's the kind of guy you can give a lot of minutes to, have him run up some gaudy shooting numbers, and then trade him for a guy who helps you win. So there's that.

Kind of like what we probably should've done with Rudy after his rookie season.
 
mook said:
If our team really starts to suck this year, he's the kind of guy you can give a lot of minutes to, have him run up some gaudy shooting numbers, and then trade him for a guy who helps you win. So there's that.

Kind of like what we probably should've done with Rudy after his rookie season.
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Absolutely agree, but then again you and I are thinking like a GM, not a coach.
 
PapaG said:
Does he need to be more than a "floor spreader", though?
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Hmm, I think he could add more to his game, but he'd probably stick around the league for a while as a spot up shooter. I'm rooting for him.
 
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