Blazer Trade!

[PtldPlatypus]

How long until @Mediocre Man explodes?

Fucking Blazers

Ya, it's stupid

So, who had "10 minutes after the Woj tweet" in the pool?

 

[B-Roy]

Kevin Pelton says the #15 and #20 should have been worth up to the #5....so "Portland paid a premium".

Last time two mid firsts were traded into the lottery was when Chicago traded 16 and 19 for 11.

That was Nurkic and Gary Harris for McDermott.

 

[Sinobas]

Kevin Pelton says the #15 and #20 should have been worth up to the #5....so "Portland paid a premium".

Don't buy that at all. #5 picks are supposed to be very good to all-star calilbur, #15 and #20, you just hope you get someone who contributes in the rotation. The majority of guys taken in that range don't amount to much. That might be true in the NFL but not the NBA.

 

[Sinobas]

If you're a fan of advanced metrics, he's off the charts!
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That's where he first caught my eye, look at his production, then I watched him play and he was very impressive, good shooter, can score inside, plays with toughness and fire.

 

[TBpup]

A guy who I think will play VERY WELL off of Dame/CJ/Nurk. He won't be asked to carry the team or be a start but to be a solid contributor.

Now how is out? Nurk/Vonleh/Collins/Davis/Leonard is a lot at the 4/5 especially when Aminu plays there so much.

 

[Sinobas]

Some people here wanted to "give everything" for KP. Zach Collins will be better than KP, mark my words.

 

[santeesioux]

A guy who I think will play VERY WELL off of Dame/CJ/Nurk. He won't be asked to carry the team or be a start but to be a solid contributor.

Now how is out? Nurk/Vonleh/Collins/Davis/Leonard is a lot at the 4/5 especially when Aminu plays there so much.

So we traded our two highest picks to get up to ten to take a guy that won't be a starter?

 

[Natebishop3]

Some people here wanted to "give everything" for KP. Zach Collins will be better than KP, mark my words.

Bold words.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

So do you guys think he starts as a rookie? Is he that good?

 

[tester551]

A guy who I think will play VERY WELL off of Dame/CJ/Nurk. He won't be asked to carry the team or be a start but to be a solid contributor.

Now how is out? Nurk/Vonleh/Collins/Davis/Leonard is a lot at the 4/5 especially when Aminu plays there so much.

Please let it be Leonard!!!

 

[B-Roy]

A guy who I think will play VERY WELL off of Dame/CJ/Nurk. He won't be asked to carry the team or be a start but to be a solid contributor.

Now how is out? Nurk/Vonleh/Collins/Davis/Leonard is a lot at the 4/5 especially when Aminu plays there so much.

Collins is better than every other option we have at the 4. I'd look to trade Vonleh for an early second.

 

[Mediocre Man]

You guys realize we just overpaid, and traded up into the lottery to draft a player who didn't start for his college team, right?

 

[TBpup]

So we traded our two highest picks to get up to ten to take a guy that won't be a starter?

He will eventually be a starter IMO and who is to say #15 or #20 would be a starter? For whatever reason, this is who I was told Olshey wanted from the start. He got him so I have to at least applaud that he did what he set out to do.

 

[Pinwheel1]

So do you guys think he starts as a rookie? Is he that good?

No. I think few rookies will. These guys all half to either get stronger or better. I hope he has a high ceiling .....his standing reach is 9'3"

 

[EGame]

You guys realize we just overpaid, and traded up into the lottery to draft a player who didn't start for his college team, right?

I tend to think so too, but I guess we will see. It is nice seeing pro-Collins comments from quite a few fans here. Hope for the best?

 

[PCmor7]

Doesn't do anything for me, but oh well.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

No. I think few rookies will. These guys all half to either get stronger or better. I hope he has a high ceiling .....his standing reach is 9'3"

Then what the fuck is the point? Man I hope this kid proves me wrong.

 

[TBpup]

Portland needs players as good as possible.....not a quantity of okay players. We already have plenty of those.

 

[Boob-No-More]

As someone who has been clamoring for 2-way players at the 3 and 4 since the beginning of last season, I approve this trade.

Yeah, he's young, but he has the skills and athleticism to make an impact at both ends. That 9.8 BLK% and 79.4 DRtg are off the charts. Shit, if he can post 5.0 and 100 at the next level, he will be our best defending big man (over the course of an entire season) since Bill Walton.

I don't care if he's white, black, green or purple. If he can play defense, I'm down with it. His offensive production will be fine. He has a nice touch both inside and out to the 3-point line. He has good footwork and a mean streak. He won't have the pressure of being our 1st, 2nd, 3rd or even our 4th option on offense. He can be an efficient scorer by getting his shots within the flow of the offense and not forcing anything.

BNM

 

[The Professional Fan]

You guys realize we just overpaid, and traded up into the lottery to draft a player who didn't start for his college team, right?

Is Collins the dude that backed up the bearded guy at gonzaga?

The bearded guy hasn't been drafted yet. That seems to matter

 

[Pinwheel1]

Then what the fuck is the point? Man I hope this kid proves me wrong.

what is the point of drafting anyone these days? IMO it is for 2-3 years down the road.

 

[blue9]

A guy who I think will play VERY WELL off of Dame/CJ/Nurk. He won't be asked to carry the team or be a start but to be a solid contributor.

Now how is out? Nurk/Vonleh/Collins/Davis/Leonard is a lot at the 4/5 especially when Aminu plays there so much.

Davis/Aminu/Meyers are all garbage and should never play a single minute for the Blazers ever again.

 

[PHXBlazer1]

what is the point of drafting anyone these days? IMO it is for 2-3 years down the road.

For sure..just seems like anyone that turns out to be a stud starts right away..projects dont work out very often

 

[blue9]

Collins is better than every other option we have at the 4. I'd look to trade Vonleh for an early second.

I don't know anything about Collins, but based on the fact we just drafted him, combined with the fact that Vonleh was our only viable PF last season, I think those are our two PFs next season.

 

[Boob-No-More]

So do you guys think he starts as a rookie? Is he that good?

Maybe not on opening night, but likely by the end of the season -- unless they keep Vonleh as the token starter and use Collins as our 6th man and primary scorer off the bench.

I personally think he will start by the end of the season, He's just too good of a fit next to Nurkic.

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

He will eventually be a starter IMO and who is to say #15 or #20 would be a starter? For whatever reason, this is who I was told Olshey wanted from the start. He got him so I have to at least applaud that he did what he set out to do.

No doubt about Neil loving this guy. They obviously saw enough of him if all they did was bring him in for a pshyc evaluation.

 

[B-Roy]

I was told it was who Portland wanted all along from before the psych interview.

Were you given details why?

 

[PHXBlazer1]

Maybe not on opening night, but likely by the end of the season -- unless they keep Vonleh as the token starter and use Collins as our 6th man and primary scorer off the bench.

I personally think he will start by the end of the season, He's just too good of a fit next to Nurkic.

BNM

I hope youre right

 

[TBpup]

Were you given details why?

No. Just that they liked him. It's why I mentioned in the podcast that they would move up because they had convinced me Collins was the guy.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I am not sold on him either. I kind of wanted Bam at 15. Glad he went at 14....makes me feel better.
But Zach long term could be a smart pick if he can play both center and PF..as he adds weight