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Ha Seung-Boumtje-Boumjte said:
Yeah, I know Red Tail neighbors threw a hissy fit about the baseball thing—but let’s not pretend a baseball stadium with 81 games and zero planning is the same as a sleek, 18,000-seat arena with Nike backing and year-round concerts, hoops, and events. Totally different beast. You add in commercial development and a plan that doesn’t involve traffic clusterfucks every Tuesday night? People will grumble, then cash out as their property values double. That’s the cycle.

And yeah, Oregon City—talking the Grand Ronde land near the Falls. If they want to build something iconic, let’s actually build something iconic. Picture this: an arena with floor-to-ceiling glass, the Willamette roaring behind it, and tourists dropping $19 on smoked salmon nachos while staring out over sacred waters. That’s not just revenue, that’s generational revenue. A tribute to the land and the tribe that owns it.

Multnomah County couldn’t build a lemonade stand without seven studies and a protest. Fuck that noise. Let’s build where people still want to win.
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Build it OVER the Willamette. Falls underneath. Most iconic stadium in all of sports!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Build it OVER the Willamette. Falls underneath. Most iconic stadium in all of sports!
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Oh wow. Over the Willamette? Falls underneath? My god, what a brilliant, never-before-conceived idea. Thank you so much for your totally helpful sarcasm — I had no idea that suggesting a dramatic riverfront arena meant I was actually proposing a floating space station powered by bald eagle tears.

But since we’re doing this — no, genius, not over the Falls like some Bond villain lair. Beside them. Above the banks. Like every other sane, breathtaking arena next to a natural wonder — Red Rocks, Salzburg’s Festspielhaus, hell, even PNC Park in Pittsburgh managed to not collapse into the Allegheny.

It’s honestly a miracle the Festspielhaus ever got built. Wagner wrangled Bavarian mad king money, the whole thing was basically an opera cult headquarters, and yet somehow we got one of the most acoustically perfect, myth-soaked performance halls in human history. Now imagine trying that under Nate Bishop’s leadership. “Uh actually, the hill has squirrels, and the locals might be startled by music…” Under his watch, we’d have no Parsifal, no Brunnhilde, no over-the-top 14-hour Gesamtkunstwerk to make Germans cry into their steins.

Engineers in 2025 can build retractable roof stadiums in hurricane zones and lift entire airports — I promise they can handle a steel-and-concrete bowl near a historic set of basalt cliffs. The Grand Ronde own the land, the access off 99E is right there, and you'd have the first major American sports arena with an actual goddamn waterfall framed behind the backboard.

So thanks again for the snark — but next time, maybe hold the smug and bring some respect. We’re trying to dream here, not build a parking lot in Gresham.
 
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julius said:
Technically, under the water would be cooler.
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Disagree.... you can't see shit in the Willamette.... well... you can literally see shit but the water is not clear at all. The view of the falls would be way cooler!
 
Natebishop3 said:
Disagree.... you can't see shit in the Willamette.... well... you can literally see shit but the water is not clear at all. The view of the falls would be way cooler!
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Temperature, you Bell end!
 
I didn't read the article but the headline has merit. Silver's answer to Highkin's question was not reassuring. Maybe it's the lawyer in him that stops him from using words like, "There is absolutely no chance the Trailblazers relocate." or something of that nature. It breaks my heart to admit but there is a nonzero chance of the NBA leaving Portland. The Fire is a not going to be any consolation. I'm going to suffer depression if that happens.
 
inconceivable said:
I didn't read the article but the headline has merit. Silver's answer to Highkin's question was not reassuring. Maybe it's the lawyer in him that stops him from using words like, "There is absolutely no chance the Trailblazers relocate." or something of that nature. It breaks my heart to admit but there is a nonzero chance of the NBA leaving Portland. The Fire is a not going to be any consolation. I'm going to suffer depression if that happens.
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Jayne's whole premise is that if a group buys the team and wants to move to Seattle it's done. He said the other owners won't vote to stop them. I don't necessarily agree.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Jayne's whole premise is that if a group buys the team and wants to move to Seattle it's done. He said the other owners won't vote to stop them. I don't necessarily agree.
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That's Dwight being Dwight.

The owners don't want to move a stable franchise with a stupid loyal fanbase because it makes the league look unstable.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Jayne's whole premise is that if a group buys the team and wants to move to Seattle it's done. He said the other owners won't vote to stop them. I don't necessarily agree.
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The league will not tolerate another fiasco like the Sonics one. Really bad for the brand if a team moves and pisses off a whole city or state, especially such a legacy team as the Trailblazers - 55 years in the same city and a rabid fanbase.

Ballmer left the Clippers in L.A., when Seattle was still wide open and the Lakers played in their same arena. The league did backflips to keep the Kings in Sac.

This team ain't going nowhere.
 
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Natebishop3 said:
Jayne's whole premise is that if a group buys the team and wants to move to Seattle it's done. He said the other owners won't vote to stop them. I don't necessarily agree.
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What about when Ballmer almost bought the kings and they denied his request to move them to Seattle..
 
Stevenson said:
The league will not tolerate another fiasco like the Sonics one. Really bad for the brand if a team moves and pisses off a whole city or state, especially such a legacy team at the Trailblazers - 55 years in the same city and a rabid fanbase.

Ballmer left the Clippers in L.A., when Seattle was still wide open and the Lakers played in their same arena. The league did backflips to keep the Kings in Sac.

This team ain't going nowhere.
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I still think Vegas is the biggest threat. Seattle makes no sense. Basically trading places with roughly the same fanbase. Yes, Seattle is a bigger market, but it's still the PNW. It's a risky proposition.

Vegas is much more alluring.
 
julius said:
I'm 99% sure he's just being used by the ownership group (and not in a bad way) to put some emphasis on the city being more amenable to helping foot the bill for either A: a new arena or B: massive upgrades to the RG.

Potential owners are probably less inclined to want to buy the team without the knowledge of knowing that the city is on board with spending $ on either fixing it up or building a new one.

I kinda think it'd be cool if they put some kind of clear roof structure over the plaza (like where the fountain/flame thing is), and maybe expand some of the concourse out. That all could be done with the team still playing games, I bet.

Actually make the area an attraction, improve parking, etc.

Structurally, I wonder if there's a lot that can be improved/added onto the RG, without having to build a brand new one.

Of course, you can only do so much to the bowl itself, in season, so that might not be feasible.
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Always thought it would be cool to have a skywalk from the RG to the MC roof. Not sure if it's at all feasible but a rooftop restaurant looking over the city from there would be epic.
 
To me they just need to make the Grizzlies and Pelicans eastern conference teams and expand the western conference with NEW franchises in Seattle and Vegas....if they move a team to Seattle it should be the Grizzlies..then but keep the Pelicans in the east
 
Natebishop3 said:
I still think Vegas is the biggest threat. Seattle makes no sense. Basically trading places with roughly the same fanbase. Yes, Seattle is a bigger market, but it's still the PNW. It's a risky proposition.

Vegas is much more alluring.
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If Vegas is so alluring, then they'd go with an expansion team instead of killing off a whole region of NBA fans (Portland/Seattle/Vancouver).

That makes absolute zero sense
 
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