Blazers aren't a Playoff team - I agree with Canzano

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Lets just let the rookies get more playing time. Stop playing the starters at over 35+ minutes per game. Wow, to lose to Orlando on 2/10/13 was sad. I agree with Canzano, and lets just go with the season and I doubt we will get a good offer for JJ Hickson in the off season. Lets just let this season ride and get a better draft pick. Okay this was written in the beginning of February.
Yet the underlying question for this season has nothing to do with any of the above. Because what we all know, what we all realize with the NBA trade deadline approaching, is that this team cannot make its mind up. Is it a playoff team? Or a lottery team? Is it great? Or a tease? Just pick one. The Blazers, losers at Utah on Friday and winners over Utah at home on Saturday, feel at times as fickle as a teenage girl riding the MAX line, unsure of which downtown stop she should take.

I asked coach Terry Stotts after the game if it frustrated him that the Blazers could look like a really solid playoff team one minute, and a clear lottery team the next. The Blazers are once again a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a headband. I hadn't even finished the question, really, and Stotts shot back, "You mean, one minute to the next?"

Yup. The boss man sees it, too.

"We're finding our way," Stotts said. Then, the first-year coach said something about the hot-cold routine being part of the normal ebb and flow of NBA basketball. Then, Stotts summarized, "I strive for consistency as a coach -- we're not there yet."

For the record, the Blazers' most valuable player to this point hasn't been Lillard, LaMarcus Aldridge or even Nicolas Batum. Nope. It's been Stotts. I know, he doesn't play for the Blazers, technically. But if we're looking for a most valuable person who has made the most notable difference this season, it's the guy on the sideline who is all-in, and taking some heat for playing three starters in excess of 38 minutes a game this season.

Stotts fielded some of those questions again before Saturday's game, explaining to a reporter for a national publication that nobody would notice he was playing an important player 38 minutes a game if it were just one player. "I happen to have three players who are pretty important to us."

(Really, Stotts means he has no bench and needs those guys badly. But he's more polite than I am. Also, he has to ride airplanes and eat meals alongside his bench players.)

Thinking "playoffs" around here is like a guy who is Saturday-afternoon car shopping thinking "Lamborghini." It's an indulgence of the soul. And so we can't reasonably announce the Blazers as a true postseason candidate while they're sitting one game behind the No. 8 spot in the standings, at a semi-cool 24-23, alternately playing the roles of Harlem Globetrotters and Washington Generals.

Let's see: Stotts is a playoff coach. Lillard is a playoff point guard. Aldridge is a playoff power forward. Batum is a playoff mismatch. Blazers fans are playoff ready. But in no way are the Blazers a playoff team. Not yet. Not while they're threatening to, either, win eight of the next 10 or lose eight of the next 10.
All this talk about making the playoffs is just talk. With two months of basketball left, all most of us have when it comes to the Blazers are questions. Will they make a move at the trade deadline? Will they find more consistency? Are they ready to take the critical step from fun fodder to a serious threat? Ultimately, are the Blazers in or out? Because this middle ground, halfway to heaven/hell business is going to leave them exactly nowhere, and cost them their first-round draft pick (goes to Charlotte if they don't finish in the bottom 12).
Source: http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2013/02/canzano_blazers_arent_a_playof.html
 
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Basically you have Utah and Houston ahead of us. We would need to beat both of them out because I think the Lakers will still get one of those two spots. The other top 6 spots are pretty much rapped up IMO.

I think we could beat out Utah but not Houston. It will be interesting to see if Utah makes any trades. But like I said in November I see us being better than at least 10 other teams in the league. Giving us the 11 pick.
 
I'm fine with us not making the playoffs this year. We don't have the bench or the experience to get past the first round. I don't see any way that we could beat OKC, San Antonio, or LAC in a seven game series. So why go to the playoffs so we can be swept in the first round? I'd rather collect one final lotto pick (because I figure we won't be back in the lotto for a while) and use our cap space this summer to round out our roster.
 
First, thank you for providing enough text so we don't have to click on that douche bag's link.

My eye caught on the sentence: "Yup. The boss man sees it too." That's all I read. That's all I can stomach. I despise that smug condescending mother fucker.

RE the OP: I've been in the "play the youngins' and improve the team through the draft and free agency before it's too late because this is our last chance to do either for a long time" camp since the beginning of the season.

I don't care to know what the douche guzzler had to say about it.
 
First off, nothing personal Nate Dogg, but any time you say you agree with Canzano, you have to put "I'm an over-reactive ninny" on the end of the sentence. The first sentence of this quote reveals exactly what I'm talking about. The team can't "make it's mind up" whether it's a playoff team? If by "team" you mean Neil Olshey, he made his mind up at the start of the season that this wasn't going to be a playoff team. He stocked the bench with young rookies on cheap contracts in order to preserve cap space flexibility for next summer. Getting a lottery pick and having money to spend will let him transform the team into a definite playoff team and probable future contender.

Now, if by "team" you mean the coaching staff and players, they're competitors who are trying to win every game they can. They want to make the playoffs this season because that's why you play the NBA game. Those who say there's no point in making the playoffs this year because the Blazers can't win against the top teams in the West are missing the true main point. Players want to win, they want to view themselves as playing on a playoff-caliber team, they want to get the experience of playing in a playoff atmosphere, and they only care about next year next year.

The reality is that this team has too many flaws and isn't likely to make the playoffs despite their best intentions. I don't see Olshey abandoning his long range plan to make a deal by the deadline. That said, I hope the players keep playing as if they can make the playoffs for as long as it's mathematically possible. In doing so, they'll either overachieve and force Olshey to make some adjustments in his strategy or they'll simply be able to go into the offseason knowing that they gave it everything they had and will be even more hungry for success next season.
 
First off, nothing personal Nate Dogg, but any time you say you agree with Canzano, you have to put "I'm an over-reactive ninny" on the end of the sentence. The first sentence of this quote reveals exactly what I'm talking about. The team can't "make it's mind up" whether it's a playoff team? If by "team" you mean Neil Olshey, he made his mind up at the start of the season that this wasn't going to be a playoff team. He stocked the bench with young rookies on cheap contracts in order to preserve cap space flexibility for next summer. Getting a lottery pick and having money to spend will let him transform the team into a definite playoff team and probable future contender.

Now, if by "team" you mean the coaching staff and players, they're competitors who are trying to win every game they can. They want to make the playoffs this season because that's why you play the NBA game. Those who say there's no point in making the playoffs this year because the Blazers can't win against the top teams in the West are missing the true main point. Players want to win, they want to view themselves as playing on a playoff-caliber team, they want to get the experience of playing in a playoff atmosphere, and they only care about next year next year.

The reality is that this team has too many flaws and isn't likely to make the playoffs despite their best intentions. I don't see Olshey abandoning his long range plan to make a deal by the deadline. That said, I hope the players keep playing as if they can make the playoffs for as long as it's mathematically possible. In doing so, they'll either overachieve and force Olshey to make some adjustments in his strategy or they'll simply be able to go into the offseason knowing that they gave it everything they had and will be even more hungry for success next season.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to e_blazer again."
 
I asked coach Terry Stotts after the game if it frustrated him that the Blazers could look like a really solid playoff team one minute, and a clear lottery team the next. The Blazers are once again a riddle wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a headband. I hadn't even finished the question, really, and Stotts shot back, "You mean, one minute to the next?"

Yup. The boss man sees it, too.

"We're finding our way," Stotts said. Then, the first-year coach said something about the hot-cold routine being part of the normal ebb and flow of NBA basketball. Then, Stotts summarized, "I strive for consistency as a coach -- we're not there yet."

I wrote better than that in the 8th grade. And I didn't claim later that my coversationalist being defensive to my criticism, is the same thing as an expert proving that my criticism is right.
 
It's Neil's fault. Plain and simple. U can't give an nba team a bench this lousy. It's not fair to the starters or fans. His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point. And after last night I wonder about lillard.

He needs a grand slam this summer. And btw full tank mode starts in Miami tomorrow. Just be happy we made it this far as far as being 500. Won't see it again till next November
 
Id like to see the rookies getting more playtime but id also like to see us try and win. I honestly dont give a rats ass if were a playoff or lottery team this year. What I want to see is a team that doesn't give up and a team that cares.

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It's Neil's fault. Plain and simple. U can't give an nba team a bench this lousy. It's not fair to the starters or fans. His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point. And after last night I wonder about lillard.

He needs a grand slam this summer. And btw full tank mode starts in Miami tomorrow. Just be happy we made it this far as far as being 500. Won't see it again till next November

Weren't you wondering about Lillard a couple nights ago? Did you wonder harder?
 
It's Neil's fault. Plain and simple. U can't give an nba team a bench this lousy. It's not fair to the starters or fans. His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point. And after last night I wonder about lillard.

He needs a grand slam this summer. And btw full tank mode starts in Miami tomorrow. Just be happy we made it this far as far as being 500. Won't see it again till next November

Troll harder.
 
I wrote better than that in the 8th grade. And I didn't claim later that my coversationalist being defensive to my criticism, is the same thing as an expert proving that my criticism is right.
LOL. I help my 10 and 12 year old daughters with their homework pretty much every day. You are right. Their teachers would not accept that.
 
It's Neil's fault. Plain and simple. U can't give an nba team a bench this lousy. It's not fair to the starters or fans. His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point. And after last night I wonder about lillard.

He needs a grand slam this summer. And btw full tank mode starts in Miami tomorrow. Just be happy we made it this far as far as being 500. Won't see it again till next November

who would you have picked at 11? Nicholson?
 
Basically you have Utah and Houston ahead of us. We would need to beat both of them out because I think the Lakers will still get one of those two spots. The other top 6 spots are pretty much rapped up IMO.

I think we could beat out Utah but not Houston. It will be interesting to see if Utah makes any trades. But like I said in November I see us being better than at least 10 other teams in the league. Giving us the 11 pick.

I agree about us being able to beat out Utah but not Houston. Not sure where the Lakers will end up. Even if the Blazers make the playoffs I just don't see them getting out of the 1st round. It would be fun though to see Lillard and a refreshed Batum balling in the postseason. Maybe it could give us some hope for next season. I say stay the course. Sure, try to get some of the young guys some run here and there, but with a new coach and a new system, might as well play this thing out and see where we end up. I don't see Stotts making a move this early to tank by playing rookies just to play rookies. There are minutes to be had. I would be okay with benching guys like Pavlovic and Jeffries who have no future on this team and kind of suck anyways.
 
First, you should be soundly ridiculed for saying you agree with anything Canzano says. Canzano's such a no-credibility rabble-rousing hack, Dwight Jaynes looked at him and said, "Damn, that rabble-rousing hack has no credibility..."

Second, Go Blazers.
 
Id like to see the rookies getting more playtime but id also like to see us try and win. I honestly dont give a rats ass if were a playoff or lottery team this year. What I want to see is a team that doesn't give up and a team that cares.
Repped.
 
It's Neil's fault. Plain and simple. U can't give an nba team a bench this lousy. It's not fair to the starters or fans. His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point. And after last night I wonder about lillard.

He needs a grand slam this summer. And btw full tank mode starts in Miami tomorrow. Just be happy we made it this far as far as being 500. Won't see it again till next November

Leonard will be another Nolan Smith bust
 
Leonard will be another Nolan Smith bust

No! Don't say that!

Why is Leonard so clueless though? The guy seems bright, physically capable, is getting good coaching we hope, and HAS to get better. Nolan Smith.........(shudder)
 
No! Don't say that!

Why is Leonard so clueless though? The guy seems bright, physically capable, is getting good coaching we hope, and HAS to get better. Nolan Smith.........(shudder)

Basketball smarts and academic smarts aren't the same thing. Leonard just doesn't look like he's been playing all that long (or maybe his coaching in his formative years was subpar?) Nolan Smith was pretty much maxed out as a player in college. He's smart enough, but doesn't have the physical tools. Apples to oranges comparison IMO.
 
Basketball smarts and academic smarts aren't the same thing. Leonard just doesn't look like he's been playing all that long (or maybe his coaching in his formative years was subpar?) Nolan Smith was pretty much maxed out as a player in college. He's smart enough, but doesn't have the physical tools. Apples to oranges comparison IMO.

I agree with this statement 100%
 
Pek looked like garbage his first year, and so did Przybilla.

There's hope.
 
Even Mark Stein hadn't written the Blazers off as a playoff team, but the loss to Orlando didn't help the cause. Even Milwaukee and Dallas are ahead of Portland in the playoff rankings in week 15.
Unfair as it might seem to write the Blazers' playoff hopes off after one bad L, it's hard to resist in this case. On a crucial six-game trip leading into the All-Star break, Portland simply could not afford to fall in Orlando in the most inviting game of the six to dip below .500 for the first time in 2013.
 
His draft choice of Myers looks horrendous at this point.

Yeah, because he's 20 years old and has played a whopping total of 589 minutes of NBA basketball. Did you reach your full potential at your job, one that requires far less talent than playing NBA basketball, at the ripe old age of 20 with less than 10 hours of on the job experience?

BNM
 

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