Blazers Bad-Mouthing Darius

[BlazerFanForLife]

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/articles/2008/10/26/big_rebound_on_tap/?page=2

"He can still play and he also hasn't played in two years, so you have to understand that he will get better," one NBA GM said. "Too bad Portland is putting out bad information that he is not a good kid.

Do you care or believe that Portland would put negative information into the NBA grapevine about Darius, and if so is it true or a partial truth.




I personally think that they are describing the Darius to teams that didn't work out after his microfracture and gained weight. Now Miles may have a new outlook on life but the Blazers would be doing a disservice to anyone inquiring about Miles to not mention the lapses in hard work.

 

[Pontius]

It's probably against the law if Portland were to "put out" bad info on Miles in the hopes of affecting whether or not he gets signed.

I would imagine Portland was asked as a reference and in this case there is nothing wrong with speaking candidly if they so choose to.

 

[Shooter]

Portland has every right to tell the truth about Darius Miles. If you recall, he was the player who screamed racial epithets at coach Maurice Cheeks and chased him down a hallway using the "N" word. The guy is a piece of trash, and any team considering signing him needs to know that.

 

[NJNetz]

Portland has every right to tell the truth about Darius Miles. If you recall, he was the player who screamed racial epithets at coach Maurice Cheeks and chased him down a hallway using the "N" word. The guy is a piece of trash, and any team considering signing him needs to know that.

Or you just don't want to a risk losing money.

 

[ebott]

I'd love to hear some details as to what negative things the Blazers are sayings. I bet it's all factual statements. There's no need to come out and say Darius is a bad kid. His actions have spoken much louder than any words from KP and CO. ever could.

 

[number 10]

Too bad Portland is putting out bad information that he is not a good kid.

He's had this reputation throughout his career, no information even needs to be "put out."

 

[STOMP]

Pritchard was recently quoted saying that DM's knee was one of the worst X-Rays he'd ever seen. Saying just that is enough to throw up a red flag for teams to not sign him up on a whim. The Celts gave him good run in the preseason games giving the whole league a chance to see what he's capable of and yet no one seems interested.

I don't think it's his personality/history that has dried up the interest and it seems really silly to believe KP is throwing dirt on a guy who still could play. An unathletic Darius Miles is just not an intriguing player

STOMP

 

[oldmangrouch]

So, an NBA GM says Portland is putting out bad info about Darius. Two observations.

A) If you think it is bad info, why doesn't YOUR team sign him, Mr Un-named GM?

B) Are you implying that the Clips and Cavs aren't saying the same kinds of things....or did you not bother to ask?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Sounds like the Boston reporter was talking to Ainge. What other GM would be talking about Miles with a Boston writer. Ainge being the little Bitch he always has been since he was at North Eugene, wants to rag on Pritchard because he is still humiliated over the BROY trade. (Even though Boston has done just fine without him) But Ainge is not going to let it go. I don't doubt Portland has given their opinion on Darius when asked. I doubt they have a smear campaign going on though.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If anything, I think it would definitely NOT be in Portland's interest to create a smear campaign against Darius; that would give the distinct whiff of tampering and indicate that there is some kind of desperation in the Blazers management to keep him off the court... that would be the kind of thing that would almost certainly increase interest in Darius, not diminish it around the league.

Darius has a public record of behavior (good, bad or ugly) there's no need for the team to do anything but let that record speak for itself.

 

[PapaG]

"He can still play and he also hasn't played in two years, so you have to understand that he will get better," one NBA GM said. "Too bad Portland is putting out bad information that he is not a good kid.

Poor, bitter Danny. He gets fleeced by Pritchard on the Telfair deal, recovers to win the freaking championship, yet still can't get over it. Now he sees "good Darius", the charmer, for a month, and has to take a dig at the Blazers.

If Darius is so good, why the f**k didn't he get minutes in the pre-season for a veteran team like the Celtics?

 

[DaRizzle]

You guys a fighting a losing battle...he will play 10 games somewhere over the next 164 games

 

[Minstrel]

You guys a fighting a losing battle...he will play 10 games somewhere over the next 164 games

If a team wants to give him a guaranteed contract, sure. 10-day contracts won't do it. You don't play ten games in ten days...one 10-day contract won't be enough for him to serve out his suspension, so two 10-day contracts won't be sufficient for him to serve his suspension and play the ten games necessary to hurt Portland's cap space. And two 10-day contracts is the maximum number you can sign a player to in one year.

Will a team give Miles a guaranteed contract for a full season? Maybe. But it's certainly not inevitable. Miles looking completely useless this pre-season lends credence to the belief that he can't play anymore.

 

[maxiep]

You guys a fighting a losing battle...he will play 10 games somewhere over the next 164 games

First, he has to play those 10 games in ONE season, not over the next two.

Second, he first has to serve a 10 game suspension.

Third, that GM sounds like someone who doesn't want to see Portland get the cap space coming to them.

Fourth, even if Darius does find someone to sign him, pay him (with the money going to the NBA) for 10 games while he's suspended and then play him 10 games, the Blazers still will appeal him being put back on the cap. And the Blazers are confident the NBA will see it their way.

The Blazers don't have to do very much to "bad mouth" Darius; Miles' record speaks for itself.

 

[handiman]

If a team wants to give him a guaranteed contract, sure. 10-day contracts won't do it.

Who says it has to be the same team? A couple of teams could take a look at a vet for a potential fit throughout the season.

 

[Minstrel]

Who says it has to be the same team? A couple of teams could take a look at a vet for a potential fit throughout the season.

One team is going to use two 10-day contracts just to help Miles get past his suspension and then let him go, with Miles having played virtually no games for them, so that a different team can use 10-day contracts to have Miles play games for them?

I find that incredibly unlikely.

 

[DaRizzle]

First, he has to play those 10 games in ONE season, not over the next two.

Wrong.

But if he plays in 10 games over the next two seasons, the Blazers will be on the hook for $18 million in salary.

...from same article

 

[julius]

Wrong.



...from same article

I think it's either 10 games this season, for this years salary, and 10 games in next year for that years salary. But I do know it's not 10 games over the next 2 seasons.

 

[handiman]

One team is going to use two 10-day contracts just to help Miles get past his suspension and then let him go, with Miles having played virtually no games for them, so that a different team can use 10-day contracts to have Miles play games for them?

I find that incredibly unlikely.

There's little cost involved in a 10-day contract. If they have the roster spot available, maybe they'll think he's worth a closer look in case he can contribute during the year. He doesn't have to see game time (i.e. during the suspension) for it to be worth an in-season tryout on a 10-day contract. If they cut him loose, there's less disincentive at that point for another team to take a look.

 

[Jurassic]

Anybody remember this?

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[number 10]

Wrong.



...from same article

But if it happens next season, who cares (except Paul Allen)? The Blazers will have already used their capspace.

 

[Minstrel]

There's little cost involved in a 10-day contract. If they have the roster spot available, maybe they'll think he's worth a closer look in case he can contribute during the year. He doesn't have to see game time (i.e. during the suspension) for it to be worth an in-season tryout on a 10-day contract. If they cut him loose, there's less disincentive at that point for another team to take a look.

I'm not certain, but I don't think they need to sign him in order to work him out. If they don't intend to put him in a uniform and play him in games (which they can't be intending, since 10-day contracts wouldn't get them much past the suspension), why even bother signing him to 10-day contracts? There's no incentive for them to do so...they can see what he has without those deals and, if he has any ability to play, why would they want to make it any easier for another team to play him by conveniently clearing out his suspension on their own dime? Not that the cost is high, but why spend even a buck potentially helping another team?

 

[Nikolokolus]

Wrong.

But if he plays in 10 games over the next two seasons, the Blazers will be on the hook for $18 million in salary.

...from same article

Believe me when I say this point has been discussed, rehashed, combed over, and picked to death ad infinitum, ad neauseum by this community and it has been determined without a shadow of a doubt that it is ten games in a given season not ten games in two years (or years of indeterminate number -- why stop at just two?)

Either way, Blazer fans really shouldn't care; his playing and going back on the Blazers books is not some kind of death knell for cap-room, it's just a dent.

Damn I can't wait until the season starts so we have actual Blazers stuff to talk about, even if that includes bitching and moaning about why the good guys in red and black end the month of November 6-12

 

[Jurassic]

Damn I can't wait until the season starts so we have actual Blazers stuff to talk about, even if that includes bitching and moaning about why the good guys in red and black end the month of November 6-12

I'm starting to think you are a Faker fan in disguise.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm starting to think you are a Faker fan in disguise.

Hardly. I just try to take the fanatic out of "fan." I love my team, but I just tend to think people's early season expectations for this team are completely over optimistic.

 

[PapaG]

If a team wants to give him a guaranteed contract, sure. 10-day contracts won't do it. You don't play ten games in ten days...one 10-day contract won't be enough for him to serve out his suspension, so two 10-day contracts won't be sufficient for him to serve his suspension and play the ten games necessary to hurt Portland's cap space. And two 10-day contracts is the maximum number you can sign a player to in one year.

Will a team give Miles a guaranteed contract for a full season? Maybe. But it's certainly not inevitable. Miles looking completely useless this pre-season lends credence to the belief that he can't play anymore.

Plus, he has to be on the active roster in order to serve his supsension. Being on the practice squad does not count. So it's 10 games as a sitting 12th man, and then 10 more games of playing. I happen to think he's done basketball-wise; if he lights it up I won't complain at all if/when he gets his shot.

 

[BenDavis503x]

I think his police record is putting out the information that Darius is bad, not Portland.

 

[handiman]

I'm not certain, but I don't think they need to sign him in order to work him out.

I thought it was the opposite, but I could be wrong about that.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I'm starting to think you are a Faker fan in disguise.

Naw, Nik is a Blazer Maniac!!!

6-12 isn't really that impossible when you think about it... (without Webster... how tough the schedule is and GO just gettin' used to the NBA in the start).

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

All that has to be said/done is point to his past and what the INDEPENDENT doctor had to say.. Game over.

I’ll give you one guess where Marc Spears (writer of the article) worked before Boston Globe…. Denver Post.. This smells of Mark Warkentein big time. “Good kid”, “Nice kid”—right. Does he think the rest of the league is stupid, or doesn’t have a memory? Who are the biggest beneficaiaries if Miles goes back on Portland’s books? Denver, and the rest of the West. If Darius is all that he says he is why doesn’t the unidentified GM sign him for his team? Because he can’t play.