Blazers Edge Greg Oden Review

[1 Eye Jack]

Mod's please delete this if it's already been posted. Sorry

http://www.blazersedge.com/2010/5/10/1466906/2009-10-season-review-greg-oden



+25% in points
+29% in defensive rebounds
+21% in overall rebounds
+109% in blocked shots
+38% in field goals made
+3% in personal fouls whistled against him
Some raw numbers:

Oden's 60.4% field goal shooting clip reprensented an increase of 4.1% over last year's 56.4%
Oden improved his free throw shooting by 12.9 percentage points to 76.6%.
His True Shooting percentage went up 4.8 percentage points to 64.7%
His Effective Field Goal percentage went up 4.1 percentage points to 60.5%
His PER rose 5 points to 23.1
His Block Percentage was 7.7%, meaning he blocked that percentage of the opponents' shots when he was on the floor.
His Offensive Rebounding Percentage was 15.6%, meaning when he was on the floor he rebounded that percentage of all available offensive rebounds. By comparison LaMarcus Aldridge's rate was 8.1%.
His Defensive Rebounding Percentage was 28.3%, which means the same thing except on the defensive end. Consider that there are 10 guys on the court when each shots goes up and Greg vacuumed up over 28% of those rebounds. By comparison LaMarcus Aldridge's rate was 18.6%.
His Total Rebounding Percentage was 21.9%. (Again, ten guys on the floor!)
His Offensive Rating, measuring points scored per 100 possessions, was 118, up 2 from last season. Brandon Roy's was 117.
His Defensive Rating, measuring points allowed per 100 possessions was 100, down 4 from last season (which is a good thing, as lower is better here). Nicolas Batum's was 107.

 

[julius]

The most important stat for Greg?

his total games that he played in, improved by -34%

 

[oldmangrouch]

The most important stat for Greg?

his total games that he played in, improved by -34%

61 down to 21.....wouldn't that be more like -66%?

 

[julius]

61 down to 21.....wouldn't that be more like -66%?

hrm....my math was always bad.

I did 66 + .34 which = 21.

So instead of realizing that you take the opposite (as in, 21 is 34% of 61 and not 61 is um...wait...somewhere it makes sense what I did...I'm just too tired to think logically right now).

 

[jlprk]

What an idiot. Why would you do 66 + .34? It doesn't = 21 anyway. It has to at least be 66, but I don't have my calculator.

 

[julius]

What an idiot. Why would you do 66 + .34? It doesn't = 21 anyway. It has to at least be 66, but I don't have my calculator.

meant multiply but thanks for being an ass about it.

 

[jlprk]

You really think I can't add 66 and .34? It was a joke, son. You're talking to an accountant and a former math major.

 

[julius]

Wow, I was so tired when I wrote these, I don't even remember writing them. And I'm just going to ignore the "son" comment, because it's not worth getting into a pissing contest over.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

It is worth noting how good Greg was. And this was AFTER serious knee surgery. So all of the whiners who like to post vids of him in High School and say "if only" should take note.
Also worth noting: Amare Stoudemire and Zach Randolph have had great seasons, both after having knee surgery, and Amare after having more than one. Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster for modern medical technology.

 

[jlprk]

No prob, and I was tired when I wrote son (though I don't think there's anything wrong with it--but just to get on your good side, I'll call you Dad from now on). I thought you'd take the word idiot as a joke, and I certainly don't think you're an idiot. In fact, I think you're just about the coolest person on this board.

 

[Public Defender]

I don't know... I think the most important stat here was 13-8. That's a .619 winning percentage. Considering the Blazers were without Nicolas Batum for those games and they were still far from figuring out how to use Andre Miller, I find that a pretty promising percentage.

Aside from that, I'm impressed with Oden's efficiency. The game against Chicago on Nov. 23, he scored 24 points on 8 field goal attempts, because his size was impossible for the Bulls to deal with (went 10-for-12 from the free throw line).

 

[Shooter]

Bowie would have been pretty decent, too, if he could have stayed healthy. As far as I'm concerned, the jury
is still out on Oden . . . way out.

 

[jlprk]

I agree that he's already a top player physically (when healthy), but his basketball IQ is so uncoached. The Blazers should 1) hire a former center to be big man coach (Lucas can be there too) and 2) use all this off-time (instead of him getting re-injured on the sofa) to have him memorize plays, try some squats, talk to the old players, study tapes like Batum likes to do, and just generally push information into his head.

This is a LOT of time that is going by, as we enter his 4th year. A full NBA career lasts 12 years (15 for the few who have unusual health, but I doubt that will happen). It's later than we think! Can we get a more intense attitude from both him and his coaches, please? Even when he can't play?

 

[SheedSoNasty]

The numbers don't lie, he's truly a stellar player. It's just a matter of him being healthy enough to play a decent amount of games throughout a regular season.

If we could get 55-60 games from him a year while being available during the playoffs, I could live with that a la Shaquille O'Neal.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I think we should approach next year just thinking of Camby as our center, and anything we get from Oden is just gravy.

 

[blazerboy30]

You really think I can't add 66 and .34? It was a joke, son. You're talking to an accountant and a former math major.

So you're saying you're a nerd (accountant) AND you can't do anything useful in the real world (math major)?

Ouch.

 

[blazerboy30]

I don't know... I think the most important stat here was 13-8. That's a .619 winning percentage. Considering the Blazers were without Nicolas Batum for those games and they were still far from figuring out how to use Andre Miller, I find that a pretty promising percentage.

Agreed. And there was still a TON of whining on this board about the sky falling.

 

[blazerboy30]

Bowie would have been pretty decent, too, if he could have stayed healthy. As far as I'm concerned, the jury
is still out on Oden . . . way out.

About what? Whether he is a good player when healthy? No, it isn't. It is confirmed that he is a very good player when healthy.

It isn't clear how healthy he will be, but nobody in this thread is claiming he won't ever be hurt again.

 

[Shooter]

About what? Whether he is a good player when healthy? No, it isn't. It is confirmed that he is a very good player when healthy.

Oden hasn't played enough in any NBA season to confirm much of anything. He's shown flashes of good play, but he's been injured so much that it's hard to say what kind of a player he is, or what kind of a player he's going to become.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think we should approach next year just thinking of Camby as our center, and anything we get from Oden is just gravy.

I've been thinking that ever since he went down in December. If he gives you something then awesome, but counting on him as the key just feels like way too tenuous of a position to be in as a franchise, with so much money/expectations riding on it.