Blazers had illegal contact with Yang Hansen - Oliva and Schmitz suspended (5 Viewers)

[SharpesTriumph]

How about as a punishment we have to give Yang back to the Grizzlies and they send us Coward?

 

[PDXFonz]

What happened with the Clippers? That was filthy as it gets.

For real though…

Was this really just swept under the rug by the league?

 

[wizenheimer]

So once the actual facts (or at least, a more realistic telling of what happened) it really seems incredibly tame and just stupid.

But any chance people can say stupid shit about the team or Cronin or whatever (all to sound like they're smarter than everyone else on twitter), and people will take it.

Again, NOT saying this about anyone here. I'm passive aggressively talking about other places.

don't assume I'm guessing correctly on the actual violation. I was just speculating on the press release. It might be something different

 

[PDXFonz]

So once the actual facts (or at least, a more realistic telling of what happened) it really seems incredibly tame and just stupid.

But any chance people can say stupid shit about the team or Cronin or whatever (all to sound like they're smarter than everyone else on twitter), and people will take it.

Again, NOT saying this about anyone here. I'm passive aggressively talking about other places.

You don’t have to clarify. We all know that everybody here is smarter than everyone else on Twitter.

 

[julius]

You don’t have to clarify. We all know that everybody here is smarter than everyone else on Twitter.

A wad of used toilet paper is smarter than everyone else on Twitter.

 

[inconceivable]

The Twolves situation was significantly worse, as they were fined 3.5 million and lost picks. Being fine 100K isn't really much of a fine.

Yeah, for NBA teams that's negligible

 

[Jelloman]

Blazers as guilty as it can be, NBA needs to reverse that trade. Make us take Coward back and give up the 28 Memphis pick. DO IT!!!

 

[Pinwheel1]

Portland Trail Blazers Assistant General Manager Mike Schmitz was suspended for two weeks without pay.

So....not a big fucking deal.

 

[Strenuus]

For an absolutely awful player too.

Damn this is so bad on so many levels. Just so fuckikg stupid.

 

[Phatguysrule]

That explains why Dundon was angry with Cronin.

He was?

 

[julius]

He was?

That's like when he jokes that the team should trade so and so because their 'value' will never be higher. He's not being serious.

 

[julius]

Portland Trail Blazers Assistant General Manager Mike Schmitz was suspended for two weeks without pay.

So....not a big fucking deal.

2 weeks?

Clearly they should all be fired and clearly Yang will never get better and clearly this was probably one of those "well, that's the minimum we can do about it...so hey, next time? Just don't do it" things.

Fans (as usual) massively overreacted to something. It did give Dwight and Canzano something to milk for a while though.

 

[Everything Beagle]

That explains why Dundon was angry with Cronin.

I was wondering why he was so agitated in all the footage of him at the game

 

[Everything Beagle]

For an absolutely awful player too.

Damn this is so bad on so many levels. Just so fuckikg stupid.

If he’d been better the fine would have been worse

 

[PCmor7]

don't assume I'm guessing correctly on the actual violation. I was just speculating on the press release. It might be something different

My suspicion is ahe rule is in place to prevent from tampering with players to influence them to enter a draft when they might be picked in the top four and the team doing it was picking at the very top of the draft. The league probably didn't want teams to be building relationships with players and their circle that could result in attempts to manipulate the draft and force teams to not pick players so those players could force their way to a preferred destination.

My guess is the Blazers broke a rule in detail but not in spirit.

 

[Norman Dale]

The Blazers have been here before - https://www.nytimes.com/1984/05/22/sports/blazers-are-fined-250000-by-league.html

 

[julius]

My suspicion is ahe rule is in place to prevent from tampering with players to influence them to enter a draft when they might be picked in the top four and the team doing it was picking at the very top of the draft. The league probably didn't want teams to be building relationships with players and their circle that could result in attempts to manipulate the draft and force teams to not pick players so those players could force their way to a preferred destination.

My guess is the Blazers broke a rule in detail but not in spirit.

I think that is a very safe assumption.
I know it's more fun to come up with tacit proof that you're right (again, not you PCMor7), but I think the simplest answer is most often the correct one. The length of suspension and the total fine is kind of pedestrian, so using common sense it's probably a safe bet (keep Chauncey out of this!) that they just did something stupid. They might have been going though the records/bank statements, and saw something that kinda looked potentially against rules and reported it to the league to get ahead of it.

 

[RR7]

So is Dundon on the hook for the 100K fine? The very first day of his ownership?

 

[Ripcity4life77]

I love when fans make something out of nothing and sure I know some of it is in jest but I also pretty sure some is not and to those people. - chill out

Also Yang is not a bust yet cause I want to see his dev progress when he returns in training camp and prolly through All star break next year before I even go there with the word bust.

 

[Blazinaway]

its laughable getting fined and suspended for what may go down as one of the worst picks along with trading down in a long while, time to clean house across the board

 

[SlyPokerDog]

"Show us on the doll where the bad assistant GMs illegally contacted you."

 

[wizenheimer]

I think that is a very safe assumption.
I know it's more fun to come up with tacit proof that you're right (again, not you PCMor7), but I think the simplest answer is most often the correct one. The length of suspension and the total fine is kind of pedestrian, so using common sense it's probably a safe bet (keep Chauncey out of this!) that they just did something stupid. They might have been going though the records/bank statements, and saw something that kinda looked potentially against rules and reported it to the league to get ahead of it.

this level of violation happens all the time in the NCAA. Every athletic department has a compliance office. They will review department and coaching activity (mostly pertaining to recruiting) regularly. And most will self-report to the NCAA when they find a violation. Almost always the violations are minor

IIRC, the UofO has self-reported violations about a half-dozen times over the last few years. One time that had 6 football recruits visiting one weekend. 5 were on official visits and one was on an unofficial visit. They gave all 6 recruits some merchandise; stuff like a Mariota jersey. That's allowed for official visits (up to a maximum dollar amount), but not for unofficial visits. I think the UofO had to pay a $500 fine or something like that

in the scheme of things, this fine for the Blazers is minor. It's not nothing but it's not much. It might be a bit more to the two assistant GM's. Suspended without pay could be yanking 20-30K out of their pockets. And as RR7 pointed out, there's some humor in the NBA saying to Dundon: "welcome to our league; by the way you owe us 100K". I guess since the PA trust still owns 20%, it has to pony up at least 20K. It should pay the entire fine

I suppose if the Blazers are fined 100K....but they don't have to pay the salaries of Schmitz and Oliva for 2 weeks, they may effectively only be punished to the tune of around 50K. I have no idea how much assistant NBA GM's make but I bet it's more than a electrician

 

[Jelloman]

I am pretty sure the fine don't literally come out of the owner's pocket. It's all rolled into business expenses and it's a write off at the end of the year. 100K is nothing at the grand scheme of business operation.

If you really think about it, as a non-tax paying team, we get distribution from other team's tax payment. So technically the tax paying teams are paying for it for us.

 

[julius]

100k to someone who just paid 4.5 billion is like 110 dollars off of 50k.

(.0022%)

 

[Pinwheel1]

its laughable getting fined and suspended for what may go down as one of the worst picks along with trading down in a long while, time to clean house across the board

I was thinking something similar. We should clean house across this board.

 

[PCmor7]

So is Dundon on the hook for the 100K fine? The very first day of his ownership?

Dun don DON!

 

[PCmor7]

I love when fans make something out of nothing and sure I know some of it is in jest but I also pretty sure some is not and to those people. - chill out

Also Yang is not a bust yet cause I want to see his dev progress when he returns in training camp and prolly through All star break next year before I even go there with the word bust.

This.

Calling someone everyone knew and acknowledged to be a project a bust in less than one year is what happens when someone is looking for something to be negative about.

 

[BBert]

I was wondering why he was so agitated in all the footage of him at the game

I just figured that's his normal personality.

 

[julius]

This.

Calling someone everyone knew and acknowledged to be a project a bust in less than one year is what happens when someone is looking for something to be negative about.

The desire to be correct is addictive

 

[Everything Beagle]

I just figured that's his normal personality.

Same; hopefully it isn't because the guy next to him looked absolutely bored to tears by him.