Blazers have talked to San Antonio about Kawhi

[Rastapopoulos]

-Raptors understand that if all fails they'll trade Kawai for Lakers' assets and then get rid of Lowry and start rebuilding around their young players.

I doubt they "understand" that, because if all else fails Kawhi is walking for nothing to the Lakers, and the Lakers know that, which is why they never offered Kuzma or Ingram.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Toronto just got one who is top 5 when healthy.

I wonder what it means that
(a) Word just came out that Kawhi said he would play in the US Team practices coming up very soon, and
(b) almost immediately he gets traded.

Does that mean that San Antonio thinks that seeing him play will scare teams off or...?

 

[Natebishop3]

I doubt they "understand" that, because if all else fails Kawhi is walking for nothing to the Lakers, and the Lakers know that, which is why they never offered Kuzma or Ingram.

Yup. The Lakers won't trade anything when he's going to be a free agent at the end of the year. They will bank on him pulling a LeBron.

 

[theprunetang]

I wonder what it means that
(a) Word just came out that Kawhi said he would play in the US Team practices coming up very soon, and
(b) almost immediately he gets traded.

Does that mean that San Antonio thinks that seeing him play will scare teams off or...?

Who really knows, aside from Kawhi and his team? Giant question marks abound .

 

[julius]

I wonder if Olshey will pipe in and suggest that the Blazers offer was better.

 

[Natebishop3]

I wonder if Olshey will pipe in and suggest that the Blazers offer was better.

I mean.... who wouldn't want Turner and MyLe?

Especially after his awesome 80s style video.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Yup. The Lakers won't trade anything when he's going to be a free agent at the end of the year. They will bank on him pulling a LeBron.

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You don't really know that, the Knicks gave away many assets for Carmelo even though he said he was going to New York just because they wanted to "lock it down" early.

 

[Orion Bailey]

-Raptors realize they won't make the finals or be a top tier team with Lowry and DeRozan at the helm.
-Raptors trade one of them dudes for the 3rd best player in the world (when healthy).
-Raptors understand that if all fails they'll trade Kawai for Lakers' assets and then get rid of Lowry and start rebuilding around their young players.

We should actually relate to their line of thinking. Maybe they should have traded DeRozan for high draft picks, maybe it wasn't on the table, we don't know.

You think the lakers will offer anything up at the trade deadline if it isn’t working out, when they could just wait and sign him as a FA?

 

[Natebishop3]

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You don't really know that, the Knicks gave away many assets for Carmelo even though he said he was going to New York just because they wanted to "lock it down" early.

New York was desperate. The Lakers have LeBron. They’re not desperate. Not yet anyway. Maybe if they’re not in the playoff picture they will start panicking.

 

[speeds]

One year of Leonard or three years of DeRozan?

Toronto supposedly gave up Poeltl and a protected first round pick and Green is coming the other way as the add-ons.

Toronto's 2020 payroll is now at about $10MM guaranteed, so they had a two-year window to compete and now will reduce it to one.

 

[boredinsalem]

We should try to expand it to a three way by offering CJ and Turner to the Spurs for Derozan and Pau. We would be a much better team with Dame/Derozan than Dame/CJ IMO.

 

[Sarni]

I doubt we only made CJ and Dame unavailable. I think CJ, Dame, Collins and Nurkic are off the limits for any possible trades going forward, all 4 of them. Olshey would not even trade CJ for Embiid or Towns.

 

[Sarni]

Wow, Toronto will actually have their entire cap space cleared in Summer 2020. Like EVERYTHING.

 

[BonesJones]

We should try to expand it to a three way by offering CJ and Turner to the Spurs for Derozan and Pau. We would be a much better team with Dame/Derozan than Dame/CJ IMO.

And why would SA even come close to considering that?

 

[LeeRC]

Even if Portland offered CJ for Kawhi....

Derozan > CJ.

Spurs take Derozan every time.

 

[illmatic99]

I wonder what it means that
(a) Word just came out that Kawhi said he would play in the US Team practices coming up very soon, and
(b) almost immediately he gets traded.

Does that mean that San Antonio thinks that seeing him play will scare teams off or...?

Or the other way around, Kawhi is healthy enough to play in the practice, so Toronto feels comfortable unloading their all star

 

[illmatic99]

So much for what? It's not like we were getting him

I let myself get roped in to thinking we had a shot. Stupid, I know.

 

[calvin natt]

I doubt we only made CJ and Dame unavailable. I think CJ, Dame, Collins and Nurkic are off the limits for any possible trades going forward, all 4 of them. Olshey would not even trade CJ for Embiid or Towns.

“Not even”? Those two are much more valuable than CJ

 

[Gronk Brady]

Wow, what a bummer to wake up to this news. Not only do we not get Kawhi, but Spurs trade him for another all star so the will keep being good during Dame’s window... at the same time, I can’t get mad because DeRozen is better offer than CJ. I just really hope Neil is looking at deals like CJ for Butler to improve this team, because the West is stronger than ever and Blazers will have hard time making playoffs with status quo

 

[Sarni]

“Not even”? Those two are much more valuable than CJ

Yeah and with the way Olshey has been over the last two years, if either of them became available (they won’t) Olshey would still go there and tell them he can offer everything bar Dame, CJ, Collins and Nurkic.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Watch Pop turn Jokob into a monster.

 

[illmatic99]

Raptor announcer on Blazer radio just said Raptors haven't been allowed to see Kawhi's medicals, but they are encouraged that he was able to commit to come to the USA practice.

Huge gamble, but Raps were in a similar boat to us. It was time for a risky move. Go big or go home, especially in the wide open east.

 

[julius]

Watch Pop turn Jokob into a monster.

I don't get this mindset. When has Pop turned players into monsters?

 

[JoshuaHall]

Gotta say...

I feel like the Spurs made a really, really poor move.

DeRozan, imo, is not that good.

And reports on toronto’s Side - Kawhi doesn’t wanna go there already hahahaha

 

[Mediocre Man]

I let myself get roped in to thinking we had a shot. Stupid, I know.

You certainly are NOT stupid, but that thought sure was

 

[Sarni]

Raptor announcer on Blazer radio just said Raptors haven't been allowed to see Kawhi's medicals, but they are encouraged that he was able to commit to come to the USA practice.

Huge gamble, but Raps were in a similar boat to us. It was time for a risky move. Go big or go home, especially in the wide open east.

The way I see it, they weren’t getting a high lottery pick or an established young player on a long contract back for DeRozan, this wasn’t happening. They were also not going to win anything with their current core as proven by the previous three season where they were excellent in the regular season but failed in the playoffs - not only against Cleveland but also they struggled to basically everyone else, they barely beat an average Washington team last year.

They got a brilliant player who is top 5 in the league easily when healthy. He might not be healthy for another season, he might not get back into top form and he might not re-sign there but there is a chance that he will and for that chance it was worth the risk.

You aren’t winning titles by keeping a team that cannot win together. Now it’s either compete with Kawhi or rebuild after this season, at least they aren’t locked to the same core for 2 more years. Just after Cleveland series everyone agreed they needed to change something and getting Kawhi could be a home run deal.

 

[Sarni]

Thunder took the same risk with George and even though they failed last season they managed to re-sign him and now have a great asset going forward instead of having virtually nothing to build on (Oladipo was never going to be the player there that he has been at Indiana).

 

[TBpup]

(Olshey) We had some serious discussions with the Spurs but it just didn't work out. (Offered ET/Meyers for Kawhi/Green)

 

[CupWizier]

I let myself get roped in to thinking we had a shot. Stupid, I know.

It all came down to Spurs not wanting to deal Leonard to the west like they had said.

 

[Pinwheel1]

You aren’t winning titles by keeping a team that cannot win together. Now it’s either compete with Kawhi or rebuild after this season, at least they aren’t locked to the same core for 2 more years. Just after Cleveland series everyone agreed they needed to change something and getting Kawhi could be a home run deal.

It is a game of match ups and they did not match up well against Lebron. But Lebron is no longer there. International players like playing in Toronto. It is a great city. But they have a history of their American born stars leaving ASAP. (Carter, Bosh, McGrady)
Good luck with keeping Kawhi. I am sure the Lakers are happy today.