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FYI The Vulcans have always been in charge...just sayin. So when you like the moves it's still the Vulcans. If you have not liked the moves for a long time, then move on because the Vulcans are not going anywhere. KP has done a nice job rebuilding the team under the direction of the Vulcans. Now the Vulcans want someone more talented, and that is not always a bad thing. Say what you want about Patterson and Nash, they set the table for KP as instructed by the Vulcans. We tanked for sure.
 
What criticism of Larry have you ever read to think that he isn't seen as an integral part of the organization? In his third year here he is as entrenched as anyone in the front office.

So? Last year you would have said that about KP, only more so.

barfo
 
The time to renew your tickets is well past anyways. I don't see how this is at all related.

Not for quarter season tickets and if you can't put the quoted section together together with my response then reading comprehension is apparently not your thing.
 
I'm just waiting for Vulcan to move the team to Seattle.

LOL! The team isn't moving to Seattle. PA would sell first and get an expansion team before that would ever happen.
 
are you mistaking the terms entrenched and irreplaceable, or maybe you think i do?

of any of the top brass, Miller is in the strongest position to ride out this storm.

and don't bother telling me what i would or would not say, you are not privy to that insight.
 
are you mistaking the terms entrenched and irreplaceable, or maybe you think i do?

of any of the top brass, Miller is in the strongest position to ride out this storm.

and don't bother telling me what i would or would not say, you are not privy to that insight.

I'm not saying what you think or mean to say, but... what storm?

The columnist implies that there are already a pair of cornerstones in Miller and Nate that will not be going anywhere any time soon... and I think it's reasonable to ask why Miller would be so firmly entrenched. What evidence is there?

I'm not omniscient, but it seems that this time last year if we had to guess we would say that Miller was more vulnerable (if at all) that KP (who seemed worship-worthy).

It would be interesting to see why anyone would think Miller is so entrenched (not you, dude; it seems you're saying he's RELATIVELY entrenched, which seems reasonable, but in terms of a new hire of a GM I don't know if that matters as much...)

Ed O.
 
are you mistaking the terms entrenched and irreplaceable, or maybe you think i do?

of any of the top brass, Miller is in the strongest position to ride out this storm.

and don't bother telling me what i would or would not say, you are not privy to that insight.

Terribly sorry, didn't mean to offend. By "you" I meant the stereotypical blazer fan. I'm sure you knew KP was on the way out a year ago.

By "the top brass" who exactly to do you mean? KP, Miller, and who else?

I'm aware of the difference between entrenched and irreplaceable, not sure why you brought that up or how that is germane.

barfo
 
are you mistaking the terms entrenched and irreplaceable, or maybe you think i do?

of any of the top brass, Miller is in the strongest position to ride out this storm.

and don't bother telling me what i would or would not say, you are not privy to that insight.

Huh? I didn't see a quote so I guess that means you're barking at me?

Okay, I give. The Blazers are moving. To Seattle. They are going to do it during the Grand Floral parade when most of Portland is busy.
 
Terribly sorry, didn't mean to offend. By "you" I meant the stereotypical blazer fan. I'm sure you knew KP was on the way out a year ago.

By "the top brass" who exactly to do you mean? KP, Miller, and who else?

I'm aware of the difference between entrenched and irreplaceable, not sure why you brought that up or how that is germane.

barfo

I've often thought you were a monotypical fan.
 
I'm not saying what you think or mean to say, but... what storm?

The columnist implies that there are already a pair of cornerstones in Miller and Nate that will not be going anywhere any time soon... and I think it's reasonable to ask why Miller would be so firmly entrenched. What evidence is there?

I'm not omniscient, but it seems that this time last year if we had to guess we would say that Miller was more vulnerable (if at all) that KP (who seemed worship-worthy).

It would be interesting to see why anyone would think Miller is so entrenched (not you, dude; it seems you're saying he's RELATIVELY entrenched, which seems reasonable, but in terms of a new hire of a GM I don't know if that matters as much...)

Ed O.

The role of the President is to build fan base, public image, and market share. It is not to take responsibility in drafting the next top pick, it is not to get a tired guy to run up the court faster... things that the press and fans have been fixating on for the last couple of seasons. I simply asked what possible criticisms of Miller he had seen to find it obvious that he was any less secure in his position than a coach who gets posts and polls here on a weekly basis about what a terrible job he is doing.

As for your query, I do not know what the writer was implying, only that in my opinion, Nate is more likely to be ousted than a President who in the eyes of the fans, and as far as we can tell Vulcan, has not a tarnish on his record.

Really though, I am simply challenging barfo, in that I don't think he realized there was a Miller other than Andre on the payroll... the writers statement seemed true enough to me for an outside observer, but I was hoping he would prove me wrong with some actual insight and school me.
 
The role of the President is to build fan base, public image, and market share. It is not to take responsibility in drafting the next top pick, it is not to get a tired guy to run up the court faster... things that the press and fans have been fixating on for the last couple of seasons. I simply asked what possible criticisms of Miller he had seen to find it obvious that he was any less secure in his position than a coach who gets posts and polls here on a weekly basis about what a terrible job he is doing.

As for your query, I do not know what the writer was implying, only that in my opinion, Nate is more likely to be ousted than a President who in the eyes of the fans, and as far as we can tell Vulcan, has not a tarnish on his record.

Really though, I am simply challenging barfo, in that I don't think he realized there was a Miller other than Andre on the payroll... the writers statement seemed true enough to me for an outside observer, but I was hoping he would prove me wrong with some actual insight and school me.

The rumor that I heard is that there is a handshake agreement between PA and LM that when PA finally decides to sell the team LM gets first chance to buy. LM is only the team president to learn first hand about owning and running a NBA franchise.

As head of the Air Jordan division LM made millions in Nike stock options. A low figure was $80 mill and the high is $300 mill. I can see an ownership group of wealthy former Nike employees being the next owners of the Blazers.
 
The rumor that I heard is that there is a handshake agreement between PA and LM that when PA finally decides to sell the team LM gets first chance to buy. LM is only the team president to learn first hand about owning and running a NBA franchise.

As head of the Air Jordan division LM made millions in Nike stock options. A low figure was $80 mill and the high is $300 mill. I can see an ownership group of wealthy former Nike employees being the next owners of the Blazers.

LM had the greatest job ever with Nike, but even on the high side, is 300M enough to buy a team? How many more would he need to bring in to get to the magic number? Interesting idea.
 
Really though, I am simply challenging barfo, in that I don't think he realized there was a Miller other than Andre on the payroll... the writers statement seemed true enough to me for an outside observer, but I was hoping he would prove me wrong with some actual insight and school me.

Huh? I was aware that we were talking about Larry.

Andre's position is clear. He's the PG until someone better comes along.
What's Larry's position? How sure are you that he's better than everyone else that Paul might be considering? What great things do you think he's accomplished as President? Are they greater than what KP did as GM? If KP doesn't have job security, why do you believe LM does?

barfo
 
“It was like I was telling (Aldridge), I don’t get this opportunity in New Orleans without the people here,’’ Williams said. “Working with Nate, and having (general manager) Kevin Pritchard give me the confidence to do my job. Kevin has done an unbelievable job here. This thing was in the gutter when we got here, and they’ve changed it. People don’t realize how hard that is.’’

- Monty Williams from olive
 
LM had the greatest job ever with Nike, but even on the high side, is 300M enough to buy a team? How many more would he need to bring in to get to the magic number? Interesting idea.

The NBA offers qualified potential owners $100 mill in low interest financing.

Why is Larry Miller President of the Blazers, it's not because he needs the paycheck.
 
I hope if the team is sold in the future, it's sold to someone who has deep pockets and hires those who are basketball minds. And the new owner lets those people do what they need to do.
 
it's sold to someone who has deep pockets and hires those who are basketball minds. And the new owner lets those people do what they need to do.

None of that is needed. It's the Twitter age. Just sent up an account and let the fans send you their ideas. We's smart hear!
 
Huh? I was aware that we were talking about Larry.

Andre's position is clear. He's the PG until someone better comes along.
What's Larry's position? How sure are you that he's better than everyone else that Paul might be considering? What great things do you think he's accomplished as President? Are they greater than what KP did as GM? If KP doesn't have job security, why do you believe LM does?

barfo

I'm not sure, that's why I was asking you since the reasons seem obvious to you.
 
LOL! The team isn't moving to Seattle. PA would sell first and get an expansion team before that would ever happen.

There was all sorts of talk (mainly out of Seattle) of moving the Trailblazers up there in 2006. Don't think it's too far fetched. The Vulcans have only profits in mind, and they think that they know whats best for the team. Moving to a bigger market might help.

Given all the Seattle connections already in place, the fact that the precedent has already been set with the Sonics themselves and the general curse of the Trailblazers... I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.
 
FYI The Vulcans have always been in charge...just sayin. So when you like the moves it's still the Vulcans. If you have not liked the moves for a long time, then move on because the Vulcans are not going anywhere. KP has done a nice job rebuilding the team under the direction of the Vulcans. Now the Vulcans want someone more talented, and that is not always a bad thing. Say what you want about Patterson and Nash, they set the table for KP as instructed by the Vulcans. We tanked for sure.

I don't call extending Randolph to a max deal, re-signing a decrepit Ratliff for a three year $35 million contract, extending a malcontent in Miles to a six year, $48 million contract, while fucking up the 04 and 05 drafts... "setting the table."
 
There is the speedbump that is building a new arena there before they can have another team to deal with as well.
 
There was all sorts of talk (mainly out of Seattle) of moving the Trailblazers up there in 2006. Don't think it's too far fetched. The Vulcans have only profits in mind, and they think that they know whats best for the team. Moving to a bigger market might help.

Given all the Seattle connections already in place, the fact that the precedent has already been set with the Sonics themselves and the general curse of the Trailblazers... I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.

Profits?

Leaving an arena in Portland that they will still own without it's biggest tenant, paying a huge penalty to the City of Portland for breaking the development agreement.

None of this happens if PA just sells the team and buys an expansion franchise. There are no profits to be made if PA tries to move the team to Seattle.
 
There was all sorts of talk (mainly out of Seattle) of moving the Trailblazers up there in 2006. Don't think it's too far fetched. The Vulcans have only profits in mind, and they think that they know whats best for the team. Moving to a bigger market might help.

Given all the Seattle connections already in place, the fact that the precedent has already been set with the Sonics themselves and the general curse of the Trailblazers... I'm just saying I wouldn't be surprised.

You do realize that the RG has now been sold out every night for the last two + seasons, right?

With that kind of support, and the historically weaker support for NBA in Seattle, the Vulcans would be stupid to move there.
 
You rebuild after 15 win seasons, not 50 win seasons.

Did you miss it the first time, where we rebuilt after setting the NBA record for consecutive playoff appearances?
 
The rumor that I heard is that there is a handshake agreement between PA and LM that when PA finally decides to sell the team LM gets first chance to buy. LM is only the team president to learn first hand about owning and running a NBA franchise.

As head of the Air Jordan division LM made millions in Nike stock options. A low figure was $80 mill and the high is $300 mill. I can see an ownership group of wealthy former Nike employees being the next owners of the Blazers.

If true, LeBron plays here next year.
 
Finally! This will be the first GM hiring in over a decade not decided by The Oregonian. They will go into a jealous tizzy over not being allowed to run the team! I can't wait to see them sabotage the new guy.

Any idiot who offers $3M to make trades happen can do better than Pritchard did.
 
I hope if the team is sold in the future, it's sold to someone who has deep pockets and hires those who are basketball minds. And the new owner lets those people do what they need to do.

I have no doubt it will be ... and the good people of Las Vegas will embrace the Blazers with open arms.
 

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