Blazers make biggest losers list in NBA draft

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Yep, based on what we know today. Of course, who was REALLY the BPA at that position won't be known for a few years. That's just the way it works. Drafting is an inexact science.

Point being, this late in the draft, you choose talent over positional need, and that's exactly what the Blazers need. Obviously, with Dame and C.J. a 6'4" 19-year old combo guard wasn't our biggest need (or even any need at all), but the Blazers said fuck need, this kid has the potential to be special.

BNM
 
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SI:
24. PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS: ANFERNEE SIMONS, IMG ACADEMY
While Simons is certainly talented and is a worthwhile stash for the Trail Blazers, this pick comes as a surprise and perhaps an attempt to preserve roster flexibility given that Portland’s cap situation is so tight. He will be a long-term project and needs to spend time in the G League. Given that the Blazers have no G League affiliate, he will need to be sent to another team’s development program and be carefully placed into a situation that makes sense for him to gain seasoning. This could prove to be shrewd by the time Simons is 23, but also may wind up as an unnecessary risk given the others on the board. Grade: C-
Really? "Others"? What others. Name names, SI, or shut the fuck up. It's one thing for us mere fans to make a statement that vague, but a professional sports publication should give a fucking example of the "others on the board" that the Blazers should have selected, and why.
 
Yep, based on what we know today. Of course, who was REALLY the BPA at that position won't be known for a few years. That's just the way it works. Drafting is an inexact science.

Point being, this late in the draft, you choose talent over positional need, and that's exactly what the Blazers need. Obviously, with Dame and C.J. a 6'4" 19-year old combo guard wasn't our biggest need (or even any need at all), but the Blazers said fuck need, this kid has the potential to be special.

BNM
Guess Neil forgot this BPA tenet last year when he picked Swanigan one pick before Kuzma, 12 picks before Bell, and 19 picks before Dorsey. He was neither a good fit nor BPA.

FWIW, I thought Evans was BPA or maybe even Robert Williams/ Okobo.
 
All these people saying Simons will go to the G-League. I call bullshit. The kid is so young and raw he will be kept in-house for development, I think. Trent Jr might be sent down, though. (Yes, I know he's also 19, but he's had coaching at least.)
 
All these people saying Simons will go to the G-League. I call bullshit. The kid is so young and raw he will be kept in-house for development, I think. Trent Jr might be sent down, though. (Yes, I know he's also 19, but he's had coaching at least.)
I agree. The G-League is for playing time, not coaching. Blazers should keep Simons close and well tutored.
 
This is starting to become fun! Check out what USA Today said about CJ's class
(keep in mind that I just googled and picked the first site, I didn't look for sites
that were, in my opinion, wrong):
7. Sacramento Kings: SG Ben McLemore, Kansas

McLemore may be the best prospect in this draft based on natural talent. He fills an often overlooked role as a shooter, and his quiet personality and occasional disappearing acts led some to question his future. But McLemore's upside is way too high to pass up at this point. The Kings are a bit of a mess right now, with new owners, a new front office and a new coach. But McLemore is an important building block, albeit one in need of more stability around him. Grade: A

8. Detroit Pistons: SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Georgia

Caldwell-Pope is a prototype shooting guard. He is a marksman from deep and can drive well enough to keep defenders honest. He also has the size to play the position and is really smooth with and without the ball. He's the replacement for Richard Hamilton the Pistons have needed for years. But an even bigger need was at point guard, where the local kid who was the best college player in the country, Michigan's Trey Burke, would have been a great fit. Caldwell-Pope should be a good player, but he doesn't have the upside of Burke and doesn't fit the team's biggest need. Grade: B

9. Utah Jazz (via Minnesota Timberwolves): PG Trey Burke, Michigan

UPDATE: The Timberwolves traded this pick to the Utah Jazz for the Nos. 14 and 21 picks, USA TODAY Sports' Sam Amick reports. Burke is the best playmaker in this draft, but his size made teams hedge. He's a great fit for a team that desperately needed to improve at point guard and has a stable frontcourt. Is he worth two first-round picks? In a draft like this one, he may be. Burke could have gone in the top five without any fuss. Here, he'll get a lower starting salary and a chance to start. Grade: A

10. Portland Trail Blazers: SG C.J. McCollum, Lehigh

McCollum now pairs with the player some expect him to follow, Damian Lillard. Like Lillard, McCollum is a high-scoring guard from a very small school who missed some time because of injury in college. Unlike Lillard, a point guard, McCollum plays shooting guard and relies on his deep shooting and quick handles. McCollum could be an asset off the bench for the Blazers or free them up to trade Wesley Matthews. Grade: B+

11. Philadelphia 76ers: PG Michael Carter-Williams, Syracuse

Given that they just traded Holiday for Noel, the 76ers needed a point guard. Now they take a young, talented passer. Carter-Williams is 6-5 and long and can guard shooting guards, but his primary skill is passing. He has wonderful court vision but does not shoot or score very well and often forced it last season for Syracuse. That must change at the NBA level. Carter-Williams and swingman Evan Turner are similar players, so the Sixers may want to add a quicker guard to the mix. Still, he is a good value here and fits a new need. Grade: B+

12. Oklahoma City Thunder: C Steven Adams, Pittsburgh

The New Zealander didn't do much in his one season at Pitt, but he has tremendous potential because of his 7-foot frame and athleticism. He's very raw but shows tremendous enthusiasm on the court and is a charismatic person off it, meaning he aced the interview process. Adams needs a few years, which makes him a strange pick for a team that needs to win now (and needs help inside now). His potential is tough not to like. Grade: B-
 
Guess Neil forgot this BPA tenet last year when he picked Swanigan one pick before Kuzma, 12 picks before Bell, and 19 picks before Dorsey. He was neither a good fit nor BPA.

FWIW, I thought Evans was BPA or maybe even Robert Williams/ Okobo.

Williams, really? Great athlete, but very unskilled with a questionable motor. The guy shot 47% from the line and due to lack of skill had trouble scoring at the previous level.

BNM
 
This thread is awesome. All I learned is no one has any fucking idea about anything lol.

What?? Come back in a month and tell me I was wrong. I dare you. I gave you a guaranteed, gold-plated inside scoop.

barfo
 
You know, he just might be good from day 1. Like they said, who knows. But saying he immediately needs a couple years in the G-League is short sighted. I'm looking forward to seeing him in Vegas. I 've got a good feeling.
we kept Luis Montero on the active list for much of the season, including putting him into actual games 12 times. I think a kid who played high-level ball (college prep players) under a strict training regimen just may be able to break in as much as a kid who played one year of community college ball in MA before having to sit a year and then getting non-drafted.
 
Since when is the NBA draft all about drafting for immediate help? I don't understand that. So many of those guys don't end up helping, while the projects (Like Giannis) end up being great.

especially when the pick is in the mid 20's. Rarely will you find a player ready to step in and play meaningful minutes and that's often true for players drafted much earlier as well.
 
especially when the pick is in the mid 20's. Rarely will you find a player ready to step in and play meaningful minutes and that's often true for players drafted much earlier as well.
That's exactly what I'm saying. The whole narrative is essentially "We need a starting level SF and we drafted a guard out of high school!"... as if we could find a starting SF at 24 (which we couldnt) and as if the draft is the only way to get better...
 
We should start a Blazers Winners in the draft thread, then link it to a bunch of nba sites.....I'm pretty sure the person who started the loser list is probably a forum member here....turnabout is fair play!
 
Anyone know of a nice close hotel near the LV summer league games?
Im thinking of going for my first time. On my Bucket List.
Thanks
 
Anyone know of a nice close hotel near the LV summer league games?
Im thinking of going for my first time. On my Bucket List.
Thanks

I don't know if close or not but last time I went to the Downtown Grand in the old Vegas which is my favorite part of the city. I don't know if this helps.
 
Anyone know of a nice close hotel near the LV summer league games?
Im thinking of going for my first time. On my Bucket List.
Thanks

Im going next year for sure. I have a weeks worth of free hotel rooms I need to use up, just not enough vacation time left this year.
 
We should start a Blazers Winners in the draft thread, then link it to a bunch of nba sites.....I'm pretty sure the person who started the loser list is probably a forum member here....turnabout is fair play!

Mediocreman? lol
 

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