Blazers making offer to Kanter

[Scalma]

This is the same team that traded Harden in a salary dump. Do you honestly believe they have any intention of matching? It would be a huge philosophical 180 for the entire organization from the ownership on down.

Gotta keep durant happy...I guess. Doesn't make sense to match in any other scenario.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Honest answer? Wes in a NY minute.

Both huge gambles - but if you win with Wes you get a guy who plays both ends of the floor and is a positive influence in the locker-room.

I agree with most. I'd be 55/45 Wes with our otherwise rebuilding roster, if he weren't coming off this injury.

I'm more 55/45 Enes given we are rebuilding, and Wes is coming off his injury.

Given LA's development from 23 to today, it's hard to not like Kanter's potential. To be, the knocks on LA are similar to Kanter. And Kanter doesn't have to fill the role of leader - we already have that - so Dame would shepherd Kanter if he weren't going back to OKC.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The thing about all these plus/minus, on-off court stats is that, if your backup is a defensive specialist, you're going to look worse on defense no matter what your defense is like.

 

[blue9]

Gotta keep durant happy...I guess. Doesn't make sense to match in any other scenario.

They're gonna be in the same position with Durant that we were in with LMA. There's no way he's re-upping next summer unless they make it to the Finals. And at that point does OKC really want to be tied to an $18M C on a shit team?
(I know this goes against another post I just made about us not having a chance at getting him.)

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

The thing about all these plus/minus, on-off court stats is that, if your backup is a defensive specialist, you're going to look worse on defense no matter what your defense is like.

True dat. If it weren't for Adams' D, his PT would be rather limited, as while his O is coming along, he still is quite raw from the 6-8 games I watched him last season.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

 

[magnifier661]

They're gonna be in the same position with Durant that we were in with LMA. There's no way he's re-upping next summer unless they make it to the Finals. And at that point does OKC really want to be tied to an $18M C on a shit team?
(I know this goes against another post I just made about us not having a chance at getting him.)

That's why we are saving max to trade for him during the season!!!

Just kidding! He won't resign here

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Kanter is 60th best center in real plus/minus, which is NOT good.
Of course, it's better Kaman and John Henson.

 

[oldfisherman]

Not sure what to think about Kanter possibly being a Blazer.

Kanter’s ast./turnover ratio is horrible, with very little improvement, if any, over 4 NBA seasons.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

LA's 22-year old stats: http://www.82games.com/0708/07POR10D.HTM
Kanter's 22-year old stats: http://www.82games.com/1415/14OKC21.HTM

Kanter's pretty bad defensively, there's no real getting around that. But he's POTENT offensively. If our job is to suck for two years to get two lotto picks, but be exciting enough to put butts in seats, this is the guy you hire, with the hope that his defense, which has been improving, continues to do so over those two years until he's passable when you're ready to make noise in the playoffs.

 

[oldmangrouch]

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When you put up such superficially impressive offensive numbers and still have a negative value - that is impressive, and not in a good way.

Edit: that chart also reaffirms the obvious question. Why in the blue hell did we keep Kaman!!

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Kanter’s ast./turnover ratio is horrible, with very little improvement, if any, over 4 NBA seasons.

That's okay, we won't be playing him at PG very much this season.

 

[Denny Crane]

Luc Longley wasn't very good on defense. His job was to stand near the basket and be tall, hands up. Even that was a struggle to do right for him.

Kanter is the #2 option the team badly needs on offense.

I am more than fine with this move. At worst, he's overpaid but a really good offensive player for the rotation.

 

[Blazers Roy]

I'm gonna post my findings again guys:

LMA and Kanter stats at age 22:

LMA:__________ ppg: 17.8 FG%: 48.4% RPG:7.6 MPG:35
Kanter(OKC):_____ppg: 18.7 FG%: 56.6% RPG:11.0 MPG:31

Kanter(OKC+Utha):_ppg: 15.5 FG%: 52.85% RPG:8.9 MPG:29

Who's your daddy now?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'm gonna post my findings again guys:

LMA and Kanter stats at age 22:

LMA:__________ ppg: 17.8 FG%: 48.4% RPG:7.6 MPG:35
Kanter(OKC):_____ppg: 18.7 FG%: 56.6% RPG:11.0 MPG:31

Kanter(OKC+Utha):_ppg: 15.5 FG%: 52.85% RPG:8.9 MPG:29

Who's your daddy now?

Those women should have gotten their noses fixed at the same time they got the boob jobs.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Rasta NOT gonna love it:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer...-for-every-anthony-davis-theres-a-cory-joseph

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The Turkish Delight!

 

[Blazers Roy]

What i want to see:

Kanturk
Davis
McDaniels
CJ Urkel\Hendo
Dame

That's a good+young starting 5 with good balance between defense\offense +pretty good rebounding.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Those women should have gotten their noses fixed at the same time they got the boob jobs.

Boo, those noses look fine!

 

[magnifier661]

Luc Longley wasn't very good on defense. His job was to stand near the basket and be tall, hands up. Even that was a struggle to do right for him.

Kanter is the #2 option the team badly needs on offense.

I am more than fine with this move. At worst, he's overpaid but a really good offensive player for the rotation.

Reminds me of Al Jefferson, which was always referred as a terrible defender. Ironically, he was on the Jazz and that team was still considered a very good defensive team.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Rasta NOT gonna love it:
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer...-for-every-anthony-davis-theres-a-cory-joseph

I like how the article link is "for-every-anthony-davis-theres-a-cory-joseph" but the title is "For every Anthony Davis, there's a Greg Monroe"

I'm also all for removing the max salary and the cap entirely, because we have a billionaire owner.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Boo, those noses look fine!

When he met them at the strip club he made it rain with bird seed.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Those women should have gotten their noses fixed at the same time they got the boob jobs.

They have faces?

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

Honestly, the best defense at this point is "go straight up and keep your hands up"

DOing that alone will make Kanter a better defender - if Meyers can be taught it, quite successfully, I'll add - Kanter can do it.

And currently, our PnR defense is for the big to back off and give up mid range jumpers all day. Kanter will be fine.

 

[Chris Craig]

Boo, those noses look fine!

How much you think he's paying an hour

 

[ripcityboy]

Kind of thinking of this like that part in Revenge of the Nerds where they let go of the rope and the jocks all fell into the mud. Maybe I am wrong.

 

[Denny Crane]

The Bulls were an elite defensive team with Carlos Boozer playing big minutes at PF and even C. The defense was great with Hinrich and Dunleavy playing minutes, too. Both those guys are geezers and not very good defenders.

 

[blue9]

The Bulls were an elite defensive team with Carlos Boozer playing big minutes at PF and even C. The defense was great with Hinrich and Dunleavy playing minutes, too. Both those guys are geezers and not very good defenders.

Great examples that support my point!

 

[Blazers Roy]

Those women should have gotten their noses fixed at the same time they got the boob jobs.

 

[blue9]

BTW - does Thibs have a job yet? Really wish we'd make a coaching change...it's a new era after all!