Blazers making offer to Kanter

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magnifier661 said:
I'm not too upset with those that want us to tank. It's a win/win situation if we barely make the playoffs or lose enough to keep our pick. Whatever the scenario, the direction of Olshey is sound. Kanter isn't some old dude we just blew our load on. It would be no different than getting Zach (without the hoops Fam) a decent contract and trying to work him into the Zach we've seen 5 years ago.
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I agree completely
 
Denny Crane said:
The Blazers have one of the best owners, if not the best. Olshey is brilliant. The team tries to win. I can't say the same about the Bulls. I was a sucker for too long.

Even if the Blazers don't win, the players and owner and GM are trying as hard as they can, and that matters.

The Bulls completely lost me with their dysfunctional management.
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You just don't get it...
Organizations win championships, players don't win championships. :)
 
There's really nothing left if we don't get Kanter. It seems like they want to roll in to the season with Frazier.
 
Sinobas said:
There's really nothing left if we don't get Kanter. It seems like they want to roll in to the season with Frazier.
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There are many players left, just not free agents. Like Fez and I said in the other thread, we could trade for McLemore or Barnes. Shit man, we have enough to get both Barnes and McLemore if we really want to get froggy!

Dame, McLemore, Barnes, Leonard and Kanter is a sick starting 5, with all players below 25.

Back-ups: CJ, Plumlee, Pat, Crabbe, Fraizer and Aminu as back ups
 
Denny Crane said:
It was the most moronic statement ever made. Krause couldn't get another NBA job after being the GM of 6 championship teams. I don't think the Bulls' current GM could either.
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If it was less stupid, it wouldn't be nearly as funny. I'm not an MJ fan, but his reaction to it was pretty funny, too. He didn't get mad, just a "Krause really said that?" with a deep exhale.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
If it was less stupid, it wouldn't be nearly as funny. I'm not an MJ fan, but his reaction to it was pretty funny, too. He didn't get mad, just a "Krause really said that?" with a deep exhale.
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Sadly, the team still has that mentality.
 
magnifier661 said:
There are many players left, just not free agents. Like Fez and I said in the other thread, we could trade for McLemore or Barnes. Shit man, we have enough to get both Barnes and McLemore if we really want to get froggy!

Dame, McLemore, Barnes, Leonard and Kanter is a sick starting 5, with all players below 25.

Back-ups: CJ, Plumlee, Pat, Crabbe, Fraizer and Aminu as back ups
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So who/ what are we trading to get Benny Mac and HFB?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
I don't see any way that's remotely realistic, but I usually don't know what I'm talking about.
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Realistic because Sacramento isn't stupid enough to do it? You mean the team that let Spurs have an up and coming PG for a second rounder? The one that Maxed Matthews? The one that let Williams walk? The one that signed Rondo? The one think Karl and Boogie will get past their differences?

And as Fez pointed out, McLemore had a poor PER his rookie year and rose it to below average of 10 last season. Sac tried finding two replacements for McLemore with Matthews and Ellis, so it seems they aren't too high on him anyway.

At least with Von, they find a replacement to their thin PF spot. If Kaman is added, maybe they believe Kaman's vet savvy can help Boogie grow up? I don't know...
 
riverman said:
you forget who he was when he was 23
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We have 6 years to become relevant or we face the same issue with Lillard that we had with LA. I just don't see the drive in Kanter he needs to become the kind of selfless player Z-Bo eventually learned
Draco said:
So you want the team to struggle so you can say I told you so? You're a deranged fan.
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We are going to struggle regardless I may as well be right while I wait for us to rebuild
 
RoyToy said:
I just can't see OKC paying that much luxury tax for a guy that only gives them offense when they already have Durant and Westbrook taking the majority of the shots.
You're talking about potentially 2 top 5 scorers in the NBA next year. Remember Kanter didn't play a single game with both KD and RW on the floor, so they have never had to share the ball 3 ways. Kanter's only real value is offense and it certainly takes a hit sharing the ball with Durant and Westbrook. Combine that with poor defense and it's just wtf for OKC.

Kanter gets plenty of touches in Portland and can reach his full potential.
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Think about it like this though, Kanter was their payday for Reggie Jackson. So if they let him walk, that means they will have traded Jackson AND Harden and received very little in return.
 
cmeese47 said:
We have 6 years to become relevant or we face the same issue with Lillard that we had with LA. I just don't see the drive in Kanter he needs to become the kind of selfless player Z-Bo eventually learned


We are going to struggle regardless I may as well be right while I wait for us to rebuild
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I think we could be relevant sooner than that and I don't have any reason to project that the Blazers will struggle for 6 years. We've argued about a lot of things for years
but those guys are gone now...give the new roster at least the benefit of the doubt until they've actually played a game. Off topic but I was wondering how your charity for the Portland hospital went? Hope it was a success
 
cmeese47 said:
We have 6 years to become relevant or we face the same issue with Lillard that we had with LA. I just don't see the drive in Kanter he needs to become the kind of selfless player Z-Bo eventually learned
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this is an absurd statement. Zbo was in the league for 8 years until he finally grew up. And Zbo was traded by 3 teams until he finally made a home in Memphis. Many considered him a total lost cause. The fact you are defending him this way only proves your total logic fallacy. Wake up and smell the coffee bro because you are still dreaming!

We are going to struggle regardless I may as well be right while I wait for us to rebuild
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That's your problem. You just want to be right and jump on things that give you the best chance of being right. You give two shits about wanting our team succeed and be wrong, which has been constantly proven many times over since you've been here. (Insert "take a bow")

It's a sad case of "Look at me, I want attention!"
 
cmeese47 said:
We have 6 years to become relevant or we face the same issue with Lillard that we had with LA. I just don't see the drive in Kanter he needs to become the kind of selfless player Z-Bo eventually learned


We are going to struggle regardless I may as well be right while I wait for us to rebuild
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That's a primary reason why a 'rebuild' is a bad idea. It takes too long.

We have a young, entering the prime of his career, all star point guard to build around. We need to put young, second and third year bloomers around him who will be hitting their primes in the next couple of years. What Olshey called an "emerging" roster.

I like the position we're in at the moment.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Think about it like this though, Kanter was their payday for Reggie Jackson. So if they let him walk, that means they will have traded Jackson AND Harden and received very little in return.
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OKC is great at acquring talent, but not so good at keeping it.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Would OKC let Kanter go for Kaman? He is a quality vet big, saves them $$$$, and fits win now model for them, lets them keep their depth
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Why would Portland want to do that? They are still under the cap with Kanter and Kaman. Better keep him for a trade that brings another asset.
 
andalusian said:
Why would Portland want to do that? They are still under the cap with Kanter and Kaman. Better keep him for a trade that brings another asset.
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I guess to give OKC a reason/incentive not to match?
 
magnifier661 said:
There are many players left, just not free agents. Like Fez and I said in the other thread, we could trade for McLemore or Barnes. Shit man, we have enough to get both Barnes and McLemore if we really want to get froggy!

Dame, McLemore, Barnes, Leonard and Kanter is a sick starting 5, with all players below 25.

Back-ups: CJ, Plumlee, Pat, Crabbe, Fraizer and Aminu as back ups
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You mean Harrison Fucking Barnes or Matt Barnes? Why is McLemore on the block?
 
andalusian said:
Why would Portland want to do that? They are still under the cap with Kanter and Kaman. Better keep him for a trade that brings another asset.
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The reason to do it is if OKC says "we won't match if you deal us Kaman" OKC still holds all the cards. We still have a ton of space to absorb a contract
 
Sinobas said:
You mean Harrison Fucking Barnes or Matt Barnes? Why is McLemore on the block?
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Harrison Fucking Barnes! :)

I was only jeasturing the possibility of McLemore because Sac tried getting 2 SGs during free agency. Possibly they don't believe he's part of their future
 
Mediocre Man said:
The reason to do it is if OKC says "we won't match if you deal us Kaman" OKC still holds all the cards. We still have a ton of space to absorb a contract
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Trading Kaman would probably benefit us more because we would have more cap space to work with
 
Mediocre Man said:
MM's brilliant idea 137.0

Would OKC let Kanter go for Kaman? He is a quality vet big, saves them $$$$, and fits win now model for them, lets them keep their depth
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If OKC would go for it, I think it would be a brilliant move.
 
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