Blazers making offer to Kanter

[Pinwheel1]

The reason to do it is if OKC says "we won't match if you deal us Kaman" OKC still holds all the cards. We still have a ton of space to absorb a contract

Funny I was running that same scenario though my head yesterday. Thinking OKC might try one last bluff if they don't want to match. I was thinking Kaman as well.

 

[Sinobas]

How could we get Barnes though? He's not making much this year, so it's not like they are needing to shed his salary. And I don't think we're allowed to trade another 1st rounder.

 

[Sinobas]

One good thing about Barnes, is that he'd come with a pre-nickname. Though I don't know if he'd understand what it means.

 

[magnifier661]

How could we get Barnes though? He's not making much this year, so it's not like they are needing to shed his salary. And I don't think we're allowed to trade another 1st rounder.

I think we would have to include young player(s) that show promise. Von would be what they would demand, but Plumlee maybe a decent second option.

 

[RR7]

We can't trade kaman for kanter, a s&t can't be worked out once an offer sheet had been signed. We can trade kaman for like, Novak, as "incentive"to not match, but you're not allowed to send incentive to a team to not match, so any deal between us would come under heavy scrutiny.

 

[Sinobas]

If OKC would go for it, I think it would be a brilliant move.

We should tell them if they let Kanter go, we'll trade them Kaman for nothing. Then after we get Kanter, we can be like "fuck you mother fucker we're keeping both"

 

[Denny Crane]

We can't trade kaman for kanter, a s&t can't be worked out once an offer sheet had been signed. We can trade kaman for like, Novak, as "incentive"to not match, but you're not allowed to send incentive to a team to not match, so any deal between us would come under heavy scrutiny.

Can't the offer sheet be rescinded if the player and team agree?

 

[Hobbesarable]

Can't the offer sheet be rescinded if the player and team agree?

According to the 1999 CBA, "A signed offer sheet can be rescinded within the waiting period if all three parties (the player and the two teams) agree."

 

[PtldPlatypus]

We can't trade kaman for kanter, a s&t can't be worked out once an offer sheet had been signed. We can trade kaman for like, Novak, as "incentive"to not match, but you're not allowed to send incentive to a team to not match, so any deal between us would come under heavy scrutiny.

Yeah, that's true. Darn CBA.

 

[BBert]

We can't trade kaman for kanter, a s&t can't be worked out once an offer sheet had been signed. We can trade kaman for like, Novak, as "incentive"to not match, but you're not allowed to send incentive to a team to not match, so any deal between us would come under heavy scrutiny.

I was wondering about that. Thanks for confirming it.

(Edit: OK so the offer can be rescinded, then a trade worked out. You guys and your CBA knowledge keep my head spinning.)

I do think Kaman will be traded though, and we need wing players. That's what we should be focusing on (if he isn't traded for Kanter).

Olshey has more moves pending in his bag of tricks, for sure.

 

[Denny Crane]

According to the 1999 CBA, "A signed offer sheet can be rescinded within the waiting period if all three parties (the player and the two teams) agree."

We're not under the 1999 CBA anymore.

FWIW

This seems like something that wouldn't have been changed, though.

 

[Hobbesarable]

We're not under the 1999 CBA anymore.

FWIW

This seems like something that wouldn't have been changed, though.

I couldn't find the same statement in the most up-to-date version of the NBA CBA.

 

[Denny Crane]

I couldn't find the same statement in the most up-to-date version of the NBA CBA.

It could be an oversight.

 

[riverman]

It's pretty apparent that if we sign Kanter, we'll move Kaman and probably another big for a wing

 

[RR7]

Can't the offer sheet be rescinded if the player and team agree?

I think so, but generally the time for trying to negotiate a s&t is before an offer sheet is signed

 

[Scalma]

I'm still down for Mo Harkless. Plays D, has shown he can shoot. Still young. Probably just needs consistent playing time.

 

[Denny Crane]

There may be only one (1) Offer Sheet signed by a Restricted Free Agent outstanding at any one time, provided that the Offer Sheet has alsobeen signed by a Team. An Offer Sheet, both before and after it is given to the ROFR Team, may be revoked or withdrawn only upon the written consent of the ROFR Team, the New Team, and the Restricted Free Agent. In such event, a Restricted Free Agent shall again be free tonegotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with any Team, and any Team shall againbe free to negotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with such Restricted Free Agent, subject only to the ROFR Team’s renewed Right of First Refusal.

 

[Sinobas]

I'm still down for Mo Harkless. Plays D, has shown he can shoot. Still young. Probably just needs consistent playing time.

Ugh...his numbers look crappy. I'd rather have KJ, at least you know you're getting something on the defensive end.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Can't the offer sheet be rescinded if the player and team agree?

Hibberts was rescinded

 

[PtldPlatypus]

There may be only one (1) Offer Sheet signed by a Restricted Free Agent outstanding at any one time, provided that the Offer Sheet has alsobeen signed by a Team. An Offer Sheet, both before and after it is given to the ROFR Team, may be revoked or withdrawn only upon the written consent of the ROFR Team, the New Team, and the Restricted Free Agent. In such event, a Restricted Free Agent shall again be free tonegotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with any Team, and any Team shall againbe free to negotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with such Restricted Free Agent, subject only to the ROFR Team’s renewed Right of First Refusal.

Excellent. Thank you.

Now can you pass this info and idea on to Olshey and Presti?

 

[Sinobas]

There may be only one (1) Offer Sheet signed by a Restricted Free Agent outstanding at any one time, provided that the Offer Sheet has alsobeen signed by a Team. An Offer Sheet, both before and after it is given to the ROFR Team, may be revoked or withdrawn only upon the written consent of the ROFR Team, the New Team, and the Restricted Free Agent. In such event, a Restricted Free Agent shall again be free tonegotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with any Team, and any Team shall againbe free to negotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with such Restricted Free Agent, subject only to the ROFR Team’s renewed Right of First Refusal.

Hi, my name is Denny, and I'm really smart and I've memorized all 10,000 pages of the collective bargaining agreement.

 

[RR7]

Hibberts was rescinded

He never officially signed one

 

[Hobbesarable]

There may be only one (1) Offer Sheet signed by a Restricted Free Agent outstanding at any one time, provided that the Offer Sheet has alsobeen signed by a Team. An Offer Sheet, both before and after it is given to the ROFR Team, may be revoked or withdrawn only upon the written consent of the ROFR Team, the New Team, and the Restricted Free Agent. In such event, a Restricted Free Agent shall again be free tonegotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with any Team, and any Team shall againbe free to negotiate and sign an Offer Sheet with such Restricted Free Agent, subject only to the ROFR Team’s renewed Right of First Refusal.

Thank you, Denny.

 

[Scalma]

Ugh...his numbers look crappy. I'd rather have KJ, at least you know you're getting something on the defensive end.

Harkless improved his 3pt % in his second season to 38%, then got no playing time this past season. Orlando is loaded with wings, I just think he needs playing time. I also would prefer KJ but Mo wouldn't be bad either. He's a little bigger. They're the same age and Harkless has more length

 

[Denny Crane]

Excellent. Thank you.

Now can you pass this info and idea on to Olshey and Presti?

I think Olshey knows his shit. Big time. He doesn't need to hear from me or anyone here to figure this out.

 

[Mediocre Man]

He never officially signed one

Really?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I think Olshey knows his shit. Big time. He doesn't need to hear from me or anyone here to figure this out.

Don't try to justify your laziness.

 

[riverman]

Hi, my name is Denny, and I'm really smart and I've memorized all 10,000 pages of the collective bargaining agreement.

If you've ever watched Boston Legal you'd know Denny Crane just says, I'm Denny Crane and some intern will fetch any info I need...probably a blonde in a tight skirt

 

[B-Roy]

Really?

Pretty sure it was negotiated during the moratorium period. Indy told us and Hibbert they would match. The offer was never signed after July 9th, and Hibbert promptly signed his contract with Indy.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

If you've ever watched Boston Legal you'd know Denny Crane just says, I'm Denny Crane and some intern will fetch any info I need...probably a blonde in a tight skirt

He doesn't even say "I'm". It's just straight up, "Denny Crane", playa.