Blazers Mid-Season Grades and Awards

[42N8Bounce]

Now that the Blazers are half way thru the season, I thought it would be good to evaluate where each of the players are at and give out some team awards. Here are my thoughts:

Damian Lillard
2015-16: mpg: 36.5, ppg: 24.7, apg: 7.1, rpg: 4.6, per: 21.8
2014-15: mpg: 35.7, ppg: 21.0, apg: 6.2, rpg: 4.6, per: 20.7
Grade: A


C.J. McCollum
2015-16: mpg: 35.5, ppg: 20.8, apg: 4.5, rpg: 3.7, per: 18.0
2014-15: mpg: 15.7, ppg: 6.8, apg: 1.0, rpg: 1.5, per: 13.1
Grade: A+


Allen Crabbe
2015-16: mpg: 26.0, ppg: 11.2, apg: 1.1, rpg: 2.6, per: 13.0
2014-15: mpg: 13.4, ppg 3.3: , apg: 0.8, rpg: 1.4, per: 8.7
Grade: A


Al-Farouq Aminu
2015-16: mpg: 29.4, ppg: 10.9, apg: 1.6, rpg: 6.7, per: 12.7
2014-15: mpg: 18.5, ppg : 5.6, apg: 0.8, rpg: 4.6, per: 14.4
Grade: C+


Mason Plumlee
2015-16: mpg: 26.3, ppg: 9.2, apg: 2.6, rpg: 7.9, per: 16.5
2014-15: mpg: 21.3, ppg : 8.7, apg: 0.9, rpg: 6.2, per: 18.0
Grade: B


Meyers Leonard
2015-16: mpg: 23.4, ppg: 8.6, apg: 1.5, rpg: 4.8, per: 11.0
2014-15: mpg: 15.4, ppg : 5.9, apg: 0.6, rpg: 4.5, per: 14.8
Grade: D+


Ed Davis
2015-16: mpg: 21.1, ppg: 6.6, apg: 1.1, rpg: 7.4, per: 18.3
2014-15: mpg: 23.3, ppg : 8.3, apg: 1.2, rpg: 7.6, per: 20.0
Grade: B


Gerald Henderson
2015-16: mpg: 16.1, ppg: 6.8, apg: 0.9, rpg: 2.4, per: 10.7
2014-15: mpg: 28.9, ppg : 12.1, apg: 2.6, rpg: 3.4, per: 13.2
Grade: C-


Maurice Harkless
2015-16: mpg: 18.2, ppg: 5.4, apg: 0.9, rpg: 3.3, per: 11.5
2014-15: mpg: 15.0, ppg : 3.5, apg: 0.6, rpg: 2.4, per: 8.4
Grade: C+


Noah Vonleh
2015-16: mpg: 15.4, ppg: 3.1, apg: 0.5, rpg: 3.8, per: 8.4
2014-15: mpg: 10.4, ppg : 3.3, apg: 0.2, rpg: 3.4, per: 13.2
Grade: C


Tim Frazier
2015-16: mpg: 8.8, ppg: 1.7, apg: 1.3, rpg: 1.3, per: 4.8
2014-15: mpg: 21.7, ppg : 5.2, apg: 5.5, rpg: 2.5, per: 8.1
Grade: F​

Incomplete:
Chris Kaman
Luis Montero
Pat Connaughton
Cliff Alexander
​

Most Valuable Player: Damian Lillard
Most Improved Player: C.J. McCollum
Biggest Surprise: Allen Crabbe
Biggest Disappointment: Meyers Leonard

Although we've seen quite a few losses this year, I really like the effort I've seen from this team. They're fun to watch, and give me a lot of hope for the future. Hopefully by the end of the season we'll see some of these grade go up a bit.

Let me know what you think!

 

[PDXFonz]

Great idea. I'm not sure that I necessarily agree with all of your grades but most of them are spot on. I think I'd bump most of your ratings up slightly (Hendo from a C- to a C, Aminu from a C+ to a B-). The only one I would bump higher would be Vonleh because he has really exceeded my expectations of him for this season. I'd put him at a B-, rating him based on what he does, not what people want him to do. He's going to be our lockdown defender, and he's done a great job of that in the limited opportunity so far.

 

[kjironman1]

I don't know about all that on Meyers. He went through a rough patch for sure but after injury he has steadily got better and has surpassed his before injury numbers and is continuing to progress. I guess my point is what did you really expect at the beginning of the season? Maybe those expectations were a bit high? Just my opinion but he does not seem to be the biggest disappointment to me. Henderson has a lower per and so does Vonleh who is starting. My biggest disappointment would be Henderson if i went by numbers and experience.
In the big picture though i don't really have a biggest disappointment and i really have not had a huge surprise either. They are pretty much what they were thought to be when i looked at them at the start of the season.

I will give them all a C to this point.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I agree with everything from 42n8Bounce.

Full Fisclosure: his post was a PM I sent him and he took it and claimed it as his own.

 

[42N8Bounce]

Great idea. I'm not sure that I necessarily agree with all of your grades but most of them are spot on. I think I'd bump most of your ratings up slightly (Hendo from a C- to a C, Aminu from a C+ to a B-). The only one I would bump higher would be Vonleh because he has really exceeded my expectations of him for this season. I'd put him at a B-, rating him based on what he does, not what people want him to do. He's going to be our lockdown defender, and he's done a great job of that in the limited opportunity so far.

Yeah, Vonleh was a tough one to grade. Solid on defense, but I've been disappointed in the progression of the rest of his game. He's increased his minutes from last year by 50%, and his points and rebounds hasn't increased proportionately. His per has slipped to a measly 8.4.

He's definitely young and has potential. I liked what I saw from him in Summer League. He's shown flashes that are very impressive (the dunk over Gobert last night!) But there's only so far he can go with 'solid defense'. I want to see more.

 

[HailBlazers]

Let me know what you think!

Nailed It!! Solid work.

 

[Tunchi]

Yeah, Vonleh was a tough one to grade. Solid on defense, but I've been disappointed in the progression of the rest of his game. He's increased his minutes from last year by 50%, and his points and rebounds hasn't increased proportionately. His per has slipped to a measly 8.4.

He's definitely young and has potential. I liked what I saw from him in Summer League. He's shown flashes that are very impressive (the dunk over Gobert last night!) But there's only so far he can go with 'solid defense'. I want to see more.

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Yup I agree. His defense is nice. My one huge problem with him is he's too damn shy. It feels like he has no confidence in his game and thinks too much.

I'm not suprised by those numbers you provided regarding his minutes increase and his pts and rebounds barley moved. The eye test def supports that.. His lack of rebounding really concerning as well..

Yea I know he's young but so are a lot of players and they show you more than that hopefully this second half of the season after the all star break he makes the biggest leap

 

[blue9]

I didn't actually read your reasoning, or any responses, but I think your grades are pretty spot-on for the most part. Will read tomorrow.

 

[Voodoo]

What about Stotts?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I'd give Dame and CJ both A's; Crabbe and Ed Davis get a B+; Mason, Harkless, and Vonleh get a B; Henderson and Aminu both get C's; Meyers and Frazier get D's.

 

[42N8Bounce]

What about Stotts?

Great question. I suffered thru the Mo and Nate years, so I have an appreciation for Stott's preference to focus more on the offense. Overall I think he has the team playing hard and with a lot of energy. Their record isn't too far off from where I expected, but they lost quite a few close ones that could have easily gone our way. With so many young guys to develop, I think he's done a fine job balancing the winning with player development.
Grade: B

 

[fumanchu]

Stotts gets a B- for not having CJ on the call sheet for the Clipper game. Derp!

 

[HailBlazers]

Stotts gets a B- for not having CJ on the call sheet for the Clipper game. Derp!

Or an A for the incognito tank!

 

[illmatic99]

It's all about expectations. I came in to the year thinking Meyers would have no trouble putting up 15ppg. He has supremely disappointed so far.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Probably splitting hairs, but I wouldn't grade Dame quite so highly, as I think he has made a lot of questionable (at best) decisions with the ball, both in terms of shot selection and distribution (or lack thereof). Perhaps I've been reading too many @Tunchi and @MarAzul posts, but I think his FG% and AST% would be higher if he were a more willing distributor; and in response to any that say that his teammates need to be more willing to shoot, I would argue that that is a primary responsibility of any team's starting point guard--to foster that willingness and confidence in his teammates. He's been great, for the most part, but I'd probably only give him a B+ for the first half.

 

[B-Roy]

Agree with pretty much all of these spot on. Maybe bump Aminu up a tad, but that's it.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Great job, Bounce! You hit every grade on the nose. Actually, I was thinking you were a tad generous to Mo, but the way his performance has been improving, it's a fair assessment. I'm hoping he continues to grow. I think he has the potential to be a very valuable utility guy for us and he's certainly one of our most intriguing acquisitions. But again, nice job. I look forward to the final exam results!

 

[blue9]

What about Stotts?

C

 

[blue9]

Great job, Bounce! You hit every grade on the nose. Actually, I was thinking you were a tad generous to Mo, but the way his performance has been improving, it's a fair assessment. I'm hoping he continues to grow. I think he has the potential to be a very valuable utility guy for us and he's certainly one of our most intriguing acquisitions. But again, nice job. I look forward to the final exam results!

Seeing that both Aminu and Harkless were graded the same I might make the argument that since Harkless was obtained for a 2nd round draft pick, and Aminu was our "premier" Free Agent signing, Harkless has performed better according to what each of them cost. Harkless certainly hasn't outperformed Aminu, but he has shown more promise than Aminu. I'd be very curious to see him get 10-15 games as the starting SF.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Hard for me to grade the player who have been injured.

It's all about expectations. I came in to the year thinking Meyers would have no trouble putting up 15ppg. He has supremely disappointed so far.

I agree it is about expectations for me as well.

I had decent expectations for CJ and Crabbe and they still exceeded them........... A

Dame...A
He has been hurt, but I would give him an A as of late. His D has actually improved quite a bit IMO

Ed Davis: B...... He has not surprised me at all on defense, better rebounder than I thought. Not much O, which I knew

Meyers .....C
My expectations were that he would be very inconsistent this year. And he has.....

Henderson as of late is what I expected. The injury set him back as did the adjustment coming off the bench........B (as of late)

Aminu....B
is exactly what I expected. At the beginning of the season his shooting exceeded my expectations, but now he is back to what I thought he would.

Harkless....B

Vonleh......C
better on D than expected, his offense will come as soon as he adjusts his inside shot. Needs to be less flat to avoid getting it blocked. The last game he had one shot that was perfect. So it looks like he is working on it. Next year, if/ when his mid range shot is more consistent, I see a huge jump in his production. Still hopeful for this guy.

Plumlee.......A....
totally exceeded my expectations.

Stotts...B+
Low expectations that he could change his offense to meet the skill set of his team. I think he has done a very good job.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Now that the Blazers are half way thru the season, I thought it would be good to evaluate were each of the player are at and give out some team awards. Here are my thoughts:

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Damian Lillard
2015-16: mpg: 36.5, ppg: 24.7, apg: 7.1, rpg: 4.6, per: 21.8
2014-15: mpg: 35.7, ppg: 21.0, apg: 6.2, rpg: 4.6, per: 20.7
Grade: A

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C.J. McCollum
2015-16: mpg: 35.5, ppg: 20.8, apg: 4.5, rpg: 3.7, per: 18.0
2014-15: mpg: 15.7, ppg: 6.8, apg: 1.0, rpg: 1.5, per: 13.1
Grade: A+

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Allen Crabbe
2015-16: mpg: 26.0, ppg: 11.2, apg: 1.1, rpg: 2.6, per: 13.0
2014-15: mpg: 13.4, ppg 3.3: , apg: 0.8, rpg: 1.4, per: 8.7
Grade: A

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Al-Farouq Aminu
2015-16: mpg: 29.4, ppg: 10.9, apg: 1.6, rpg: 6.7, per: 12.7
2014-15: mpg: 18.5, ppg : 5.6, apg: 0.8, rpg: 4.6, per: 14.4
Grade: C+

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Mason Plumlee
2015-16: mpg: 26.3, ppg: 9.2, apg: 2.6, rpg: 7.9, per: 16.5
2014-15: mpg: 21.3, ppg : 8.7, apg: 0.9, rpg: 6.2, per: 18.0
Grade: B

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Meyers Leonard
2015-16: mpg: 23.4, ppg: 8.6, apg: 1.5, rpg: 4.8, per: 11.0
2014-15: mpg: 15.4, ppg : 5.9, apg: 0.6, rpg: 4.5, per: 14.8
Grade: D+

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Ed Davis
2015-16: mpg: 21.1, ppg: 6.6, apg: 1.1, rpg: 7.4, per: 18.3
2014-15: mpg: 23.3, ppg : 8.3, apg: 1.2, rpg: 7.6, per: 20.0
Grade: B

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Gerald Henderson
2015-16: mpg: 16.1, ppg: 6.8, apg: 0.9, rpg: 2.4, per: 10.7
2014-15: mpg: 28.9, ppg : 12.1, apg: 2.6, rpg: 3.4, per: 13.2
Grade: C-

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Maurice Harkless
2015-16: mpg: 18.2, ppg: 5.4, apg: 0.9, rpg: 3.3, per: 11.5
2014-15: mpg: 15.0, ppg : 3.5, apg: 0.6, rpg: 2.4, per: 8.4
Grade: C+

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Noah Vonleh
2015-16: mpg: 15.4, ppg: 3.1, apg: 0.5, rpg: 3.8, per: 8.4
2014-15: mpg: 10.4, ppg : 3.3, apg: 0.2, rpg: 3.4, per: 13.2
Grade: C

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Tim Frazier
2015-16: mpg: 8.8, ppg: 1.7, apg: 1.3, rpg: 1.3, per: 4.8
2014-15: mpg: 21.7, ppg : 5.2, apg: 5.5, rpg: 2.5, per: 8.1
Grade: F​

Incomplete:
Chris Kaman
Luis Montero
Pat Connaughton
Cliff Alexander
​

Most Valuable Player: Damian Lillard
Most Improved Player: C.J. McCollum
Biggest Surprise: Allen Crabbe
Biggest Disappointment: Meyers Leonard

Although we've seen quite a few losses this year, I really like the effort I've seen from this team. They're fun to watch, and give me a lot of hope for the future. Hopefully by the end of the season we'll see some of these grade go up a bit.

Let me know what you think!

Incredible post dude!!! Way to go!!!!

I don't know about all that on Meyers. He went through a rough patch for sure but after injury he has steadily got better and has surpassed his before injury numbers and is continuing to progress. I guess my point is what did you really expect at the beginning of the season? Maybe those expectations were a bit high? Just my opinion but he does not seem to be the biggest disappointment to me. Henderson has a lower per and so does Vonleh who is starting. My biggest disappointment would be Henderson if i went by numbers and experience.
In the big picture though i don't really have a biggest disappointment and i really have not had a huge surprise either. They are pretty much what they were thought to be when i looked at them at the start of the season.

I will give them all a C to this point.

Henderson was a starter. I would assume his per would drop considering he is coming to us in a new position ( off the bench) and had to get back to game shape from an injury) Henderson has looked much better the last couple of weeks I think.

On the contrary, I think Meyers grade is accurate and thats coming from one of his biggest supporters. The guy was supposed to work into our starting PF or Center for the future and injury or no injury, he is just no where close to that. It almost looks like his game has actually slowed its pace a bit.
Watch him when he gets passed the ball on the perimeter but doesnt take the shot and doesnt pass right away. His movements are like molasses. I think the most he will ever become is a spot up shooter off the bench. Ive come to believe his game is very limited and am doubtful it will expand much,if any, more than it has. Makes me sad, but I give him a D too....

 

[brendanjames]

CJ (A+) Easy One

Dame (B) Has been at times brilliant, mostly solid and sometimes absent. Performs when we really needed but can get lost still in games which as our almighty supreme leader I'd like to see him improve at. Basically doesn't get an A because expectations are very very high. I'm not comfortable giving him an A every half year of his career just because he is Dame.

Mason (C) Great hustle but I'm not yet convinced. Has shown a lot of holes as a starter.

Aminu (B) Solid contributor, long-term 7th man. Spacey dude who isn't always in the game but I rate his performance compared to initial expectation.

Vonleh (C/Incomplete) Super young. Davis should start but Vonleh is a long term. I'm happy to see him do what he does.

Meyers (C+) You guys are harsh. Will he be a starter? No way. Will we pay top dollar for him? Nope. Is he a young handy bench big that can shoot 3s and open the paint for decent second unit guards. Oh yeah! I love him. I think you guys are expecting a lot more from him than you should.

Davis (C) Should be our starting PF. Simple as that. Great rebounder, hustle, decent defender. Why isn't he starting? He hasn't been good enough to not give Stotts a choice but to start him. I want to see him take that position and not give it to Noah for two seasons.

Mo (B+) We got the guy for a 2nd pick that Tim Duncan might die of old age before seeing come through that they then traded to Cleveland for a Joe Harris, whatever that is. A great steal and has hit some big plays just at the moment we need him to. That moment when the Blazers have a big 3-4 possessions he always seems to have the second or third of them. Class act and hopefully a handy 15-20 mpg for seasons to come. Hope Harris and 2075 second rounder flop like a fish.

Crabbe (B) The hardest one for me to rate. Was great while Dame was out and I think I have missed some of his best games. I like the progression by I think a lot of guys are heaping a lot of praise on him compared to some harsh critique on Aminu. I'd love to see a comparative debate about their performances this year. (Might start a thread)

Hendo (D) Harsh, I know. Injured early but for me he was never a part of this team's plan and he is basically caught in two world's. We should play him more to raise his trade value. And we should play him less because he won't be here in two years time, he doesn't fit the long term. He is a victim of our 9th place. He has done well, I just don't like seeing him on court as I'd much rather Crabbe or PC/LM/CA out there for developmental sake.

PC (P) Pitcher. Hope I'm wrong.

Frazier (D)-League

Kaman (U) Still ugly as ever.

Montero (WC) Wild Card. Like a joker in a card deck, will probably never feature prominently in a game.

Stotts (A) We are a rebuild team in 9th place (albeit a weak west from 8th downwards) but compared to other teams with much better lists I'm so proud of this Blazers team and of Terry for this season.

 

[Natebishop3]

CJ (A+) Easy One

Dame (B) Has been at times brilliant, mostly solid and sometimes absent. Performs when we really needed but can get lost still in games which as our almighty supreme leader I'd like to see him improve at. Basically doesn't get an A because expectations are very very high. I'm not comfortable giving him an A every half year of his career just because he is Dame.

Mason (C) Great hustle but I'm not yet convinced. Has shown a lot of holes as a starter.

Aminu (B) Solid contributor, long-term 7th man. Spacey dude who isn't always in the game but I rate his performance compared to initial expectation.

Vonleh (C/Incomplete) Super young. Davis should start but Vonleh is a long term. I'm happy to see him do what he does.

Meyers (C+) You guys are harsh. Will he be a starter? No way. Will we pay top dollar for him? Nope. Is he a young handy bench big that can shoot 3s and open the paint for decent second unit guards. Oh yeah! I love him. I think you guys are expecting a lot more from him than you should.

Davis (C) Should be our starting PF. Simple as that. Great rebounder, hustle, decent defender. Why isn't he starting? He hasn't been good enough to not give Stotts a choice but to start him. I want to see him take that position and not give it to Noah for two seasons.

Mo (B+) We got the guy for a 2nd pick that Tim Duncan might die of old age before seeing come through that they then traded to Cleveland for a Joe Harris, whatever that is. A great steal and has hit some big plays just at the moment we need him to. That moment when the Blazers have a big 3-4 possessions he always seems to have the second or third of them. Class act and hopefully a handy 15-20 mpg for seasons to come. Hope Harris and 2075 second rounder flop like a fish.

Crabbe (B) The hardest one for me to rate. Was great while Dame was out and I think I have missed some of his best games. I like the progression by I think a lot of guys are heaping a lot of praise on him compared to some harsh critique on Aminu. I'd love to see a comparative debate about their performances this year. (Might start a thread)

Hendo (D) Harsh, I know. Injured early but for me he was never a part of this team's plan and he is basically caught in two world's. We should play him more to raise his trade value. And we should play him less because he won't be here in two years time, he doesn't fit the long term. He is a victim of our 9th place. He has done well, I just don't like seeing him on court as I'd much rather Crabbe or PC/LM/CA out there for developmental sake.

PC (P) Pitcher. Hope I'm wrong.

Frazier (D)-League

Kaman (U) Still ugly as ever.

Montero (WC) Wild Card. Like a joker in a card deck, will probably never feature prominently in a game.

Stotts (A) We are a rebuild team in 9th place (albeit a weak west from 8th downwards) but compared to other teams with much better lists I'm so proud of this Blazers team and of Terry for this season.

I agree that Dame should be a B or a B+ because of his shooting struggles earlier in the season, but I disagree about Plums and Davis. I especially disagree about Davis. That guy has been a steal. His offensive efficiency is off the charts.

Here is an excerpt from an article that's already linked in the Ed Davis thread:

Everything has been fine for Davis on the court, since he has been a solid fit in the Blazers’ frontcourt. He’s averaging 6.6 points and 7.4 rebounds in 21.1 minutes off the bench while shooting an insanely impressive 62.2 percent from the field (which ranks second in the NBA). When the ball is in his hands, good things happen. This is even more evident when you look at his per-100-possessions averages of 15.8 points, 17.6 rebounds and 1.7 blocks.

Advanced analytics show his enormous impact as well. He’s surprisingly ranked first among all NBA players in offensive rating (126.1) and he’s ranked third in the NBA in offensive rebounding percentage (15 percent). He has also been extremely efficient, as his 18.4 PER is second on the Blazers behind only All-Star point guard Damian Lillard.

How can you give a guy with those stats a C?

 

[brendanjames]

I agree that Dame should be a B or a B+ because of his shooting struggles earlier in the season, but I disagree about Plums and Davis. I especially disagree about Davis. That guy has been a steal. His offensive efficiency is off the charts.

Here is an excerpt from an article that's already linked in the Ed Davis thread:



How can you give a guy with those stats a C?

Because he is playing 2 minutes less than he did last year on a team where I think he should be starting. Your actually proving my point in a way and as is the word "surprising" that appears in that article.

My C grade is attributed perhaps a bit to Stotts desicion not to start him and the fact he has surprising stats, not stats that say "He is our starter for sure". I'd call it constructive critiscm as I think he should starting and play 28 minutes.

 

[Natebishop3]

Because he is playing 2 minutes less than he did last year on a team where I think he should be starting. Your actually proving my point in a way and as is the word "surprising" that appears in that article.

My C grade is attributed perhaps a bit to Stotts desicion not to start him and the fact he has surprising stats, not stats that say "He is our starter for sure". I'd call it constructive critiscm as I think he should starting and play 28 minutes.

I don't think his coming off the bench is a reflection on him. I think Stotts likes Plumlee because of his ability to pass the ball, and trying to play Plums and Davis together would be a disaster. Stotts likes to have a big who can spread the floor, so that's why we're seeing Vonleh/Plumlee and Davis/Leonard.

 

[brendanjames]

I don't think his coming off the bench is a reflection on him. I think Stotts likes Plumlee because of his ability to pass the ball, and trying to play Plums and Davis together would be a disaster. Stotts likes to have a big who can spread the floor, so that's why we're seeing Vonleh/Plumlee and Davis/Leonard.

I wouldnt have though Vonleh spaces the floor any better than Davis. The guy never shoots and has a slightly better range than Ed.

I don't disagree mind you.

Which raises the question.....who survives long term? For me I'd rather see Davis get the big minutes and Mason be moved on for another C. I preemptively realise I may be the only one to say that however.

 

[Natebishop3]

I wouldnt have though Vonleh spaces the floor any better than Davis. The guy never shoots and has a slightly better range than Ed.

I don't disagree mind you.

Which raises the question.....who survives long term? For me I'd rather see Davis get the big minutes and Mason be moved on for another C. I preemptively realise I may be the only one to say that however.

Vonleh has three point range. We saw it in summer league a lot more though. Maybe he's just gun shy. Davis, to my knowledge, has zero three point range.

 

[brendanjames]

Vonleh has three point range. We saw it in summer league a lot more though. Maybe he's just gun shy. Davis, to my knowledge, has zero three point range.

Yeah i dont think Eds three point range would surprise anyone.

I also think the same as I thought in Summer league. Let's take this Vonleh performance with the worlds largest grain of salt. I don't think any NBA defences are thinking too much about Vonlehs 3 point range at the start of a game.

 

[blue9]

... and Mason be moved on for another C. I preemptively realise I may be the only one to say that however.

I'm on the fence with Plumlee. I really like his game, and with his skills I think that he could be very useful as a starting C...in the right scenario. But his erratic production is a little concerning to me. Pairing him with DMC could work really well. Apparently DMC has said that he'd rather play PF - putting him next to Plumlee could improve both of their games. The passing alone with those two would be awesome to watch. And DMC mitigates the problem of Plumlee's erratic production, and let's him just play his role.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm on the fence with Plumlee. I really like his game, and with his skills I think that he could be very useful as a starting C...in the right scenario. But his erratic production is a little concerning to me. Pairing him with DMC could work really well. Apparently DMC has said that he'd rather play PF - putting him next to Plumlee could improve both of their games. The passing alone with those two would be awesome to watch. And DMC mitigates the problem of Plumlee's erratic production, and let's him just play his role.

DMC is who I would like to target, with CJ/Vonleh as the primary pieces that I would offer.