Blazers need more 3 point scoring

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These new advanced statistics might be entertaining, but the key is the additional scoring that can mean wins over the Wolves, Thunder, Warriors, and Eastern Conference teams.

The Blazers can have a great record in the upcoming games with strategic substitutions, especially in the 3rd and 4th quarters, that keep Blazer scoring up. With determined defense and using the best shooters at key points in the games, the Blazers are looking at making the Western Conference Finals.
 
Sarni said:
Good win for the team tonight. However with additional 10 swish3 attempts from Meyers we would have added extra 15 points to get 131 points and an even more clear win.
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Serious question: How is Meyers' swish3 defense?
Serious answer: It's terrible.

A big problem for him is that he is a player whose skills work at cross purposes.

He's got great jumping ability...
but very poor awareness, so he can't play inside. The jumping doesn't help him on the perimeter.

He's got a good 3 point shot...
but his feet are stuck in mud making him a poor perimeter player on both ends. His shot is also glacially slow.

His brain is "like a computer", so he knows all of the plays...
yet he is often out of position.
 
swish3 said:
These new advanced statistics might be entertaining, but the key is the additional scoring that can mean wins over the Wolves, Thunder, Warriors, and Eastern Conference teams.
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This is terrible news against the other 10 western conference teams that apparently will not be affected by this strategy change.
 
Season statistics show that Meyers defense is better this year, at a team average level. Blazer coaches should play Meyers at key points in the games to improve probability of wins.

Wizard Mentor, look at this year's record and recognize the improvements that mean that Meyers can contribute to success in coming games and the playoffs.
 
swish3 said:
Season statistics show that Meyers defense is better this year, at a team average level. Blazer coaches should play Meyers at key points in the games to improve probability of wins.

Wizard Mentor, look at this year's record and recognize the improvements that mean that Meyers can contribute to success in coming games and the playoffs.
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Based on how many minutes this year that mattered? lol. look at history, not this year when he said he was going to prove himself to everyone and he's shown no one.
 
This is the important factor. Meyers needs to be in the game for at least 8 min stretches at key times, like the 3rd and 4th quarters, to extend what the statistics show he is doing this year. I want to see him taking 6-12 swish3 attempts per game, and that means playing more than 2 or 3 min.
 
The lack of swish3s (0 for 9) in the first half of the TiBo Wolves game is the vivid example of the Blazers without the 3 point weapon. This was the type of situation, when the Blazers could not buy a swish3, to play the best swish3 shooter on the team, Meyers, to get the 3 pointers rolling. Instead of Evan, the Blazers could have had Meyers providing some swish3 firepower. Given that Zach was an abysmal 1 for 6 for only 2 points, I would have played Meyers for some of both Evan's (0 pts in 21 min) and Zach's (2 pts in 18 min) minutes.

In the more challenging upcoming games, the Blazers can't afford to have 0 swish3s in a half, and should include the best scoring talent as the season statistics prove. It is great that Dame and CJ got hot in the 2nd half, but let's give them a boost with swish3 scoring.


 
swish3 said:
The lack of swish3s (0 for 9) in the first half of the TiBo Wolves game is the vivid example of the Blazers without the 3 point weapon. This was the type of situation, when the Blazers could not buy a swish3, to play the best swish3 shooter on the team, Meyers, to get the 3 pointers rolling. Instead of Evan, the Blazers could have had Meyers providing some swish3 firepower. Given that Zach was an abysmal 1 for 6 for only 2 points, I would have played Meyers for some of both Evan's (0 pts in 21 min) and Zach's (2 pts in 18 min) minutes.

In the more challenging upcoming games, the Blazers can't afford to have 0 swish3s in a half, and should include the best scoring talent as the season statistics prove. It is great that Dame and CJ got hot in the 2nd half, but let's give them a boost with swish3 scoring.
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In the next games we must have Meyers Leonard taking at least 16 swish 3s a game ensuring that we score at least 8 swish3s and get 24 points more.

Meyers Leonard is the best swish3 shooter in the league and should be recognized as such by the Blazers coaching team.
 
When was the last time Meyers had an 8 min stretch in a game? 2015?
 
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What is weird here is that he genuinely believes Meyers would be a 50% three point shooter over the course of season if he played. That's better than Curry or Redick ever were. Nuts.
 
swish3 said:
Season statistics show that Meyers defense is better this year, at a team average level. Blazer coaches should play Meyers at key points in the games to improve probability of wins.

Wizard Mentor, look at this year's record and recognize the improvements that mean that Meyers can contribute to success in coming games and the playoffs.
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First, use the @ symbol in front of people's names, and they'll receive an alert.

Second, some questions for you:

Do you think another team would give up a first round pick for Meyers and his contract?
Do you think another team would give up a second round pick for Meyers and his contract?
Do you think another team would give up just capspace for Meyers and his contract?

I'm pretty sure Neil would have taken any of these. IMHO, other GMs don't see the value
in Meyers that you do. Ultimately, that matters more that what any of us think.
 
While over 50% success with swish3s with just 17 attempts does not mean certainty, the fact is that best on the team shooting would have been welcome in the game against the TiBo Wolves.

It makes sense to put Meyers in instead of Evan when there is zero swish3 scoring by the Blazers. To beat the Thunder and continue the winning streak, we need to keep up the swish3 scoring.
 
swish3 said:
Yes, Sarni! I am glad that you agree. The point is the scoring power of someone who can make the swish3s when we need them to keep the Blazers in the game, i.e., with at least 26 points per quarter. Let's hope for no more 16 point 3rd quarters!

The numbers are impressive. Having taken 100 swish3 attempts by now, Meyers could have scored 150 points that would have led to more wins.
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Did you change your default font? If so, how?
 
No, but the font is easy to change. Arial is the top of the list. It is easier to read non-serif fonts than the Micorsoft promoted Times Roman. Do you dislike Arial?
 
swish3 said:
While over 50% success with swish3s with just 17 attempts does not mean certainty, the fact is that best on the team shooting would have been welcome in the game against the TiBo Wolves.

It makes sense to put Meyers in instead of Evan when there is zero swish3 scoring by the Blazers. To beat the Thunder and continue the winning streak, we need to keep up the swish3 scoring.
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Okay. This might be the first post that makes a slight bit of sense, but not really if you think it through.

Though Turner did not play well and was mostly a non factor on offense, he is still a better than average defender and can cover 3 positions. In a league dominant NBA, it is more important to be able to lock down on the guards than it is to have elite interior presence (thought some sort of interior presence is needed).

Unfortunately Meyers slow registry makes him a bigger liability on defense than it is a POTENTIAL benefit on offense. Right now, the team is playing better based on defense first. Sacrifice that and we take a step back into last year.
I will trust the staff in knowing that until he shows he can handle himself in practice and show quicker instinctual movement to the ball and overall court vision to help stay ahead of the ball movement, he will not play anything but garbage time again.
$40 million garbage time minutes.
 
Don't worry, we love Arial, but only when talking about swish3s

I agree we should have put Meyers in the game instead of Turner, I'm sure he would have done a wonderful job guarding the 3 spot
 
Statistics show that Meyers is much better, even above team average, for defense this year. I do not agree that Meyers would show less effective defense than Evan in the coming games. Let's try Meyers and see.
 
Wait. You actually want Nards to play at Small Forward instead of ET?
So you actually think Nards could check Wiggins, or for the upcoming OKC game... PG/Melo?

This isn't even funny, or a good troll.
Nards is not the answer at off the bench at small forward. Literally just No.
 
Yes, I would play Meyers against Melo and count on Meyers to score 3-6 swish3s. Remember that Meyers quite effectively shut down Cousins in previous seasons. His defense is better this year as the statistics show.
 
swish3 said:
Yes, I would play Meyers against Melo and count on Meyers to score 3-6 swish3s. Remember that Meyers quite effectively shut down Cousins in previous seasons. His defense is better this year as the statistics show.
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He was effective at slowing Boogie's back to the basket game..
Soon as Boogie started go to his face up game. Boogie ate Nards alive due to Nards not having the lateral quickness to stay in front.

If you actually think Nards can effectively defend Melo 25 ft from the hoop then you've been playing too much 2k.
Nards couldn't defend Boogie 25ft from the hoop.
Last time Portland tried to use Nards as a 'Boogie stopper', he got pulled for Davis/Plumlee because Boogie was facing up and going right around Nards like a chair.

Do not say 'statistics' show Nards has been better this year.
As I've said multiple times Nards has been better this year. You don't need stats to see that...
You only have to ignore the Utah game where he couldn't even get his hands up to contest @ the rim.

At the end of the day Portland is 10 games over .500. Highest they've been since Aldridge/Batum/Wes/Rolo left.
Nards isn't playing a part it that. Why, because he's let a 19 year old rookie beat him out. Frankly that's all that needs to be said.
Nards doesn't deserve PT over anyone who is currently getting PT.


The funny part about you is, you actually believe coming onto this forum and saying.
'Give Meyers Leonard a chance'. Is actually going to get him PT.
 
We see this differently, Honki. Meyers has better moves, including lateral steps, this year and can defend at 22 to 25 feet out. Meyers does need to get his hands up high to use his length to force a change in trajectory in his opponent's shots. When he does, he is more effective. He is defending as well as Evan while offering valuable scoring power, but needs the playing time to show it. I would play him off the bench against the Thunder to get the win.

Too many minutes are being given to Zach, who should not be attempting swish3s and who becomes weaker on defense after 8 min of play. It is not a winning plan to have Zach taking 4 times as many swish3 attempts as Meyers, or to fail to play fresher talent, obviously with energetic will to win.

 
swish3 said:
We see this differently, Honki. Meyers has better moves, including lateral steps, this year and can defend at 22 to 25 feet out. Meyers does need to get his hands up high to use his length to force a change in trajectory in his opponent's shots. When he does, he is more effective. He is defending as well as Evan while offering valuable scoring power, but needs the playing time to show it. I would play him off the bench against the Thunder to get the win.

Too many minutes are being given to Zach, who should not be attempting swish3s and who becomes weaker on defense after 8 min of play. It is not a winning plan to have Zach taking 4 times as many swish3 attempts as Meyers, or to fail to play fresher talent, obviously with energetic will to win.
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I would submit that Zach is not in the game for his swish3 prowess, though obviously a 32% shooter at the 5 on some decent volume (3.5 3pa/g) can be helpful. However, I'd submit that Zach's defense (similar to most rookies) is what is getting him on the floor, and is a strong contributor to both our good team defensive rating and 14-5 record since the MIN game mid-Jan. Meyers can't (unfortunately) say that.
 
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So, looks like ET & Collins both outplayed Nards and it wasn't close.
This thread should die now right?
 
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