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Regarding George Hill, they say its safe to assume between 8-9 mill/year.
He rejected 6.5 mill, apparently when they initially tried to extend him.
 
OregonHuskerMan said:
Regarding George Hill, they say its safe to assume between 8-9 mill/year.
He rejected 6.5 mill, apparently when they initially tried to extend him.
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Thanks for the info. That's a lot of money for Hill, considering they also pay Granger, West, and will have to pay George.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
They'll match. 'Nuff said.
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So they will tie up almost all the way to the cap on West/Granger/Hill/Hibbert? As it is for next year, that would be matching Hibbert and allegedly Hill at $8-9m to put them right at the cap. That's the same team they had last year that couldn't get by Miami w/out Bosh.

I don't think it's as clear cut as you think. That may be me and my hope just saying so, though.
 
why would they pay george hill 9 million, and let a rare true center leave?
 
3RA1N1AC said:
why would they pay george hill 9 million, and let a rare true center leave?
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Because it's a guard league to some degree?

Just throwing that out there, because George Hill is a Big Pile of Meh to me.
 
PapaG said:
So they will tie up almost all the way to the cap on West/Granger/Hill/Hibbert? As it is for next year, that would be matching Hibbert and allegedly Hill at $8-9m to put them right at the cap. That's the same team they had last year that couldn't get by Miami w/out Bosh.

I don't think it's as clear cut as you think. That may be me and my hope just saying so, though.
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West expires after this season, and granger will expire when george needs a new deal, so they can slide deals out as new ones go on ok.
 
Hill went to college in indiana and is from indiana. He is a major fan favorite. I remember someone saying that the Pacers did a lot of marketing with George Hill last year.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Miles.

Plumlee.
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You know, you're right. Why else take Plumlee in the first round? And why offer a 26 y/o PG with a career 14.3 PER a 5 year deal without anybody else offering him anything?

Is KP panicking without the security blanket of Paul Allen's checkbook? Why the hell offer George Hill a 5 year deal for any reason?
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Hill went to college in indiana and is from indiana. He is a major fan favorite. I remember someone saying that the Pacers did a lot of marketing with George Hill last year.
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Well, I guess that makes sense, since he's from IUPUI. Still, Damon was from Portland, and once his limitations became obvious, nobody was upset when he left.
 
I was trying to be facetious. I actually agree with you, though I think Kaman's getting a higher price tag. I wouldn't be shocked to see 4/40 for him, and I think IND pays it.
 
Damon even came to PDX when he was 24, and not a 26 year-old coming off of a rookie contract.
 
KP should give us Hibbert for blowing the #1 pick in '07. It's only fair.
 
KingSpeed said:
KP should give us Hibbert for blowing the #1 pick in '07. It's only fair.
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If you had been against that pick in 2007, I'd agree with you. But you weren't against that pick, and revisionist history is just too simplistic to even consider as being honest.
 
PapaG said:
I still don't think they'll match. It is odd that we know nothing about the finances involving George Hill's 5-year deal, though. Indy can't offer Hibbert a 5 year deal now, and without knowing the dollars of Hill's contract, it makes things complicated.
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Nope. You can always offer your own bird free agents 5 year deals. You are confusing this with the designated player rookie extension.
 
Draco said:
Nope. You can always offer your own bird free agents 5 year deals. You are confusing this with the designated player rookie extension.
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What about the 11th, when he signs the offer sheet, FAMS?
 
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Draco's right. You can sign your whole team to 5-year Bird deals if they qualify, but only one "designated" player at a time (unless you trade for someone else's, then you only get two). Because the designated player is a 5-year extension, which makes the contract a 6-year one. Hibbert wouldn't even qualify as a designated player if they matched, because he wasn't signed as an extension of his rookie deal like, say, Westbrook was.
Coon's FAQ #25 said:
These (Bird rights contracts) contracts can be up to five years in length, with raises up to 7.5% of the salary in the first season of the contract. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA, and this exception is formally a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception.
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More on the DPRE:
Coon's FAQ #58 said:
A team can have at most one player on its roster whom they have designated for a longer extension, plus at most one player designated by another team whom they acquired in trade.

For example, the Oklahoma City Thunder extended Russell Westbrook's rookie scale contract in 2011 (with the extension taking effect in 2012-13). They selected Westbrook as their designated player and extended him through 2016-17 (five new years, six total). The Thunder therefore are not allowed to designate another player for a five-year extension (Kevin Durant signed his five-year extension under the 2005 CBA) until 2017, as long as Westbrook is on their roster. However, they can trade for one (and only one) player who was designated by another team.
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KingSpeed said:
KP should give us Hibbert for blowing the #1 pick in '07. It's only fair.
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Indiana owes us for the Jermaine O'neal Stale Davis trade.
 
Draco said:
Nope. You can always offer your own bird free agents 5 year deals. You are confusing this with the designated player rookie extension.
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It was posted earlier that you can only have one 5-year Bird rookie per year under the new CBA, and that's George Hill for Indy.

Not saying it's right, but that's what was posted.
 
I thought that was debunked in this situation, but so much garbage has been posted at this point, I cant remember what has been declared legit.
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
I thought that was debunked in this situation, but so much garbage has been posted at this point, I cant remember what has been declared legit.
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I was actually working today, so it was probably debunked and I missed it.
 
PapaG said:
It was posted earlier that you can only have one 5-year Bird rookie per year under the new CBA, and that's George Hill for Indy.

Not saying it's right, but that's what was posted.
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I didn't see that, or I would've posted earlier.
 
http://www.iamagm.com/news/2012/05/12/george.hill.declined.6.million.year.extension.pacers

Couldn't find the link for his new deal, but unless something drastically changed, they would've had to make him a really decent offer for him to forgo being a FA, essentially. 7.5-8.5 would be my guess.

Also, I may be the only one, but I feel like they may not match, to try and go after a few free agents next year, at the C spot.

Monroe*, Cousins*, Al Jefferson, Bynum, Howard, Mozgov.


* = Team Option, which 99.99% likely they will pick up.
 
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