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Fuck Rudy he doesn't get to choose where he goes and if we send him to the Hornets, then good, he belongs on a losing team anyway.
 
Entity said:
If they value Collison higher than Nelson, then yeah. I think I like Ryan Anderson and Mikael Pietrus more than the average Blazer fan. Gortat/Anderson/Pietrus could be good trade pieces along with another player, though not as young as our guys.



I'm saying Vince Carter might be worth the extra million vs. our expirings. As far as rebuilding mode, the expirings both they and we have to offer probably aren't involved. It's the other parts of the deal.
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I think so. I don't see all the hype about Gortat, he is a big, but he is not even that great. Average at best. Pietrus is nice, but Batum and him are a wash with Batum having higher potential. Anderson? He just seems average as well. Knickes prospects are better then those 3. Jameer does nothing for them and Carter is only an expiring, nothing more nothing less.
 
EGame said:
Fuck Rudy he doesn't get to choose where he goes and if we send him to the Hornets, then good, he belongs on a losing team anyway.
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I don't give a shit fuck about Rudy. But he adds no value to the trade from the NOH perspective, and only means they have to pay his salary. Since his salary can be deducted from the postulated trade and have the numbers still match up, then they would get an instant immediate savings of 1.24 million by not having rudy included. Last thing a strapped team wants is to accept more coming back then they absolutely have to. My leaving off rudy is not for his sake, it's to make the proposed deal sweeter from the perspective of NOH.
 
Entity said:
If they value Collison higher than Nelson, then yeah. I think I like Ryan Anderson and Mickael Pietrus more than the average Blazer fan. Gortat/Anderson/Pietrus could be good trade pieces along with another player, though not as young as our guys.
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Collison is 6x cheaper than Nelson. Yeah, I would think they'd value him more. Same with Gortat/Anderson/Pietrus, they're nice pieces, but Anderson is the only one who is cheap. And neither of them are bursting with tons of potential.

I'm saying Vince Carter might be worth the extra million vs. our expirings. As far as rebuilding mode, the expirings both they and we have to offer probably aren't involved. It's the other parts of the deal.
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Right, so why are you trying to act like Carter has some value for them?
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Plus Carter fills a need position for at least a year
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GOD said:
I don't give a shit fuck about Rudy. But he adds no value to the trade from the NOH perspective, and only means they have to pay his salary. Since his salary can be deducted from the postulated trade and have the numbers still match up, then they would get an instant immediate savings of 1.24 million by not having rudy included. Last thing a strapped team wants is to accept more coming back then they absolutely have to. My leaving off rudy is not for his sake, it's to make the proposed deal sweeter from the perspective of NOH.
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Yeah, I see. But maybe Monty Williams will talk Rudy up to the Hornets management. :D
 
The Knicks don't have the assets. They'll have to give up everyone (of value) outside Amare to even have a chance.

Orlando, outside Dwight, has the most overrated collection of players in the NBA.

Dallas biggest chip is Roddy Buckets. Really?!

When you talk about pure talent for talent nobody comes close to what the Blazers could pony up.
 
EGame said:
I think so. I don't see all the hype about Gortat, he is a big, but he is not even that great. Average at best. Pietrus is nice, but Batum and him are a wash with Batum having higher potential. Anderson? He just seems average as well. Knickes prospects are better then those 3. Jameer does nothing for them and Carter is only an expiring, nothing more nothing less.
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If Nelson is the deal killer, then fine. Then fact is New Orleans has no one else at point guard to go with Collison, and why settle for someone who's worse than Collison?
 
Entity said:
If Nelson is the deal killer, then fine. Then fact is New Orleans has no one else at point guard to go with Collison, and why settle for someone who's worse than Collison?
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We can give them a nice backup and possible teacher in Andre Miller. Game, set, match.
 
I also think there is a very good chance that Miller and Camby would accept some sort of buyout saving NOH even more money.
 
GOD said:
I don't give a shit fuck about Rudy. But he adds no value to the trade from the NOH perspective, and only means they have to pay his salary. Since his salary can be deducted from the postulated trade and have the numbers still match up, then they would get an instant immediate savings of 1.24 million by not having rudy included. Last thing a strapped team wants is to accept more coming back then they absolutely have to. My leaving off rudy is not for his sake, it's to make the proposed deal sweeter from the perspective of NOH.
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Overlooked fact. Rudy is an expiring same with Bayless and Batum. Just saying FWIW.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
The Knicks don't have the assets. They'll have to give up everyone (of value) outside Amare to even have a chance.

Orlando, outside Dwight, has the most overrated collection of players in the NBA.

Dallas biggest chip is Roddy Buckets. Really?!

When you talk about pure talent for talent nobody comes close to what the Blazers could pony up.
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I don't think folks are giving the Knicks guys enough credit. Check out the PER on Azubkie and A. Randolph. Galinari is over rated garbage I will agree with you there even though you didn't say it in the first place. :p
 
Idog1976 said:
Overlooked fact. Rudy is an expiring same with Bayless and Batum. Just saying FWIW.
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Yes, but it's an expiring that is not needed in the first place to make the numbers match up. So again, why would NOH want to have him included and have to pay him for this upcoming year if he is not needed to make the deal work. It would cost them 1.24 million while they are trying to save. And to make matters worse, there is a chance that rudy will refuse to play, and then they are paying that 1.24 million and not even getting a player.

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EGame said:
So is Oden; Oh my :O
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Jesus Christ, Oden is not a throw in expiring. Give me a fucking break. Who lead the Blazers in PER last year?

Also is he talent for them or an expiring? Batum I shouldn't have included with Rudy washup and Bayless.
 
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GOD said:
Yes, but it's an expiring that is not needed in the first place to make the numbers match up. So again, why would NOH want to have him included and have to pay him for this upcoming year if he is not needed to make the deal work. It would cost them 1.24 million while they are trying to save. And to make matters worse, there is a chance that rudy will refuse to play, and then they are paying that 1.24 million and not even getting a player.

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Good point I was only working one side of the ledger.
 
GOD said:
Yes, but it's an expiring that is not needed in the first place to make the numbers match up. So again, why would NOH want to have him included and have to pay him for this upcoming year if he is not needed to make the deal work. It would cost them 1.24 million while they are trying to save. And to make matters worse, there is a chance that rudy will refuse to play, and then they are paying that 1.24 million and not even getting a player.

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Holy jeebus, trade 6 guys in one trade?
 
GOD said:
I was trying to make a trade from the perspective of NOH trying to get the best deal they could get if Oden, Roy and LMA were off the table.
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Yeah it makes sense, but it just surprised me and make me chuckle a bit. Has a team traded 6 players away in one trade before?
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Yeah it makes sense, but it just surprised me and make me chuckle a bit. Has a team traded 6 players away in one trade before?
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Our Pippen trade.

(edit): This was also in that article:

Denver had offered Nick Van Exel, even though the Rockets engaged in an 11-player deal in August -- the largest-player transaction in league history -- to acquire the rookie point guard Steve Francis from Vancouver.
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VanillaGorilla said:
Yeah it makes sense, but it just surprised me and make me chuckle a bit. Has a team traded 6 players away in one trade before?
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I don't know for sure, but i feel like it has happened before. But, let's not forget we would also be getting back 4 players. all in all, it would be a massive 10 player trade, plus picks and money. Crap, that seems like a mountain of pain to overcome.


EDIT: just posted in the post above mine -
...Pippen is expected to be dealt for Kelvin Cato, Walt Williams, Stacey Augmon, Ed Gray, Brian Shaw and Carlos Rogers.
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although, i am not sure you can really consider a few of those guys players.
 
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Idog1976 said:
Jesus Christ, Oden is not a throw in expiring. Give me a fucking break. Who lead the Blazers in PER last year?

Also is he talent for them or an expiring? Batum I shouldn't have included with Rudy washup and Bayless.
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I knew you would take the bait. ;)
 
We do, but will we part with our players like Batum for Paul? Our headline will be" Portland unwilling to deal young guns. :O
 
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