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Who are these people? Two dudes and a chick I’ve never seen before. They’re not worse than the Marang crew though.
 
tlongII said:
Who are these people? Two dudes and a chick I’ve never seen before. They’re not worse than the Marang crew though.
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They have a backup crew that does one of the shows during the week now that the others do the postgame show.
 
Your #3 Blazers postgame show for the 2019-2020 season. ;)
 
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I would watch Blazers Uprise if it was on TV. But it's not so...
 
Blazers Outsiders is fine. It does exactly what the Blazers need. They are frilly and they make basic basketball points that the average fan can watch and follow. They also fill in with "Feel Good" stories and personal points that people want to know and hear about the team. They have a few people that are easy to watch and don't make your skin crawl. They come across as personable and nice. The whole idea is to not create drama and controversy and they do that well.

People on this site have a little different perspective. Or at least some do. No casual Blazer fan watching a post game show after a big win is gonna want to be stuck on mundane efficiency stats and picking apart a player that had maybe 6 mins on the court and crated a couple turnovers. They are not gonna want to hear about a player that is in a slump over and over again. Pretty sure they would lose viewers if after winning the first round of a playoff series they went all in on telling people the coach didn't have a good enough offense to be considered a good coach in this league.

No post or pregame show current or future is going to get a spot mainstream if they don't understand those issues. They will stay on YouTube or whatever other media outlet they happen to be using so people who want to watch that kind of thing can search them out. We have seen over and over again what happens to commentators that try to create controversy on the set. Blazer fans come out in droves and complain about them and eventually they are shown the door.
 
kjironman1 said:
Blazers Outsiders is fine. It does exactly what the Blazers need. They are frilly and they make basic basketball points that the average fan can watch and follow. They also fill in with "Feel Good" stories and personal points that people want to know and hear about the team. They have a few people that are easy to watch and don't make your skin crawl. They come across as personable and nice. The whole idea is to not create drama and controversy and they do that well.

People on this site have a little different perspective. Or at least some do. No casual Blazer fan watching a post game show after a big win is gonna want to be stuck on mundane efficiency stats and picking apart a player that had maybe 6 mins on the court and crated a couple turnovers. They are not gonna want to hear about a player that is in a slump over and over again. Pretty sure they would lose viewers if after winning the first round of a playoff series they went all in on telling people the coach didn't have a good enough offense to be considered a good coach in this league.

No post or pregame show current or future is going to get a spot mainstream if they don't understand those issues. They will stay on YouTube or whatever other media outlet they happen to be using so people who want to watch that kind of thing can search them out. We have seen over and over again what happens to commentators that try to create controversy on the set. Blazer fans come out in droves and complain about them and eventually they are shown the door.
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It's possible to be critical of the team's flaws without "trying to create controversy". Listen to any east coast sports radio.

I think there's a niche to be filled.
 
kjironman1 said:
Blazers Outsiders is fine. It does exactly what the Blazers need. They are frilly and they make basic basketball points that the average fan can watch and follow. They also fill in with "Feel Good" stories and personal points that people want to know and hear about the team. They have a few people that are easy to watch and don't make your skin crawl. They come across as personable and nice. The whole idea is to not create drama and controversy and they do that well.

People on this site have a little different perspective. Or at least some do. No casual Blazer fan watching a post game show after a big win is gonna want to be stuck on mundane efficiency stats and picking apart a player that had maybe 6 mins on the court and crated a couple turnovers. They are not gonna want to hear about a player that is in a slump over and over again. Pretty sure they would lose viewers if after winning the first round of a playoff series they went all in on telling people the coach didn't have a good enough offense to be considered a good coach in this league.

No post or pregame show current or future is going to get a spot mainstream if they don't understand those issues. They will stay on YouTube or whatever other media outlet they happen to be using so people who want to watch that kind of thing can search them out. We have seen over and over again what happens to commentators that try to create controversy on the set. Blazer fans come out in droves and complain about them and eventually they are shown the door.
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With the last paragraph, why does it seem like youre trying to reference me without actually referencing me? If you want to call me out, then call me out. If you arent, then forgive me, but with your talk about Stotts criticism and YouTube, it seems like you are.

Who the hell would be criticizing Stotts offense after a Game 5 win? Theres a time and place... don't project. Just because someone might pick apart nuances in conversation doesnt mean theyre going to sit there criticizing Stotts offense after that Dame shot. I dont even remember anyone doing that... Regardless, theres a difference between conversation between friends and broadcasting to an audience... apparently you didnt watch my reaction video to Round 1. I know you dislike any criticism about Stotts, but I dont understand why you project it into situations where it doesnt apply.

Casual fans are far less likely to watch a post-game show than diehard fans. So catering a post-game show to those who are less likely to watch it doesnt make sense to me. I think they get by because they have ties to the community, not because they cater to the casual fan. In my opinion, if youre able to analyze in an entertaining way and easy to understand way, you can cater to both.

Even then, casual fans have a similar spectrum of opinions about that show as hardcore fans, at least from my experience. I could go into my thoughts as too why but Im choosing to refrain from stating my personal opinions on other platforms from now on.

Trying hard not to create controversy can be just as controversial. I'll leave you to think about that one.

YouTube is becoming more and more mainstream. Acting like being on YouTube instead of cable means you're an automatic secondary option is a bit shortsighted.
 
BonesJones said:
With the last paragraph, why does it seem like youre trying to reference me without actually referencing me? If you want to call me out, then call me out. If you arent, then forgive me, but with your talk about Stotts criticism and YouTube, it seems like you are.

Who the hell would be criticizing Stotts offense after a Game 5 win? Theres a time and place... don't project. Just because someone might pick apart nuances in conversation doesnt mean theyre going to sit there criticizing Stotts offense after that Dame shot. I dont even remember anyone doing that... Regardless, theres a difference between conversation between friends and broadcasting to an audience... apparently you didnt watch my reaction video to Round 1. I know you dislike any criticism about Stotts, but I dont understand why you project it into situations where it doesnt apply.

Casual fans are far less likely to watch a post-game show than diehard fans. So catering a post-game show to those who are less likely to watch it doesnt make sense to me. I think they get by because they have ties to the community, not because they cater to the casual fan. In my opinion, if youre able to analyze in an entertaining way and easy to understand way, you can cater to both.

Even then, casual fans have a similar spectrum of opinions about that show as hardcore fans, at least from my experience. I could go into my thoughts as too why but Im choosing to refrain from stating my personal opinions on other platforms from now on.

Trying hard not to create controversy can be just as controversial. I'll leave you to think about that one.

YouTube is becoming more and more mainstream. Acting like being on YouTube instead of cable means you're an automatic secondary option is a bit shortsighted.
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No this is not about you. It's about Blazer broadcasting in general. Specifically Blazers Outsiders.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It's possible to be critical of the team's flaws without "trying to create controversy". Listen to any east coast sports radio.

I think there's a niche to be filled.
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Won't happen on a Blazer broadcast on the same channel that the Blazers play. Now if you get another sport in town or probably more like two then you have enough material to support a show that could at least cover sports year round. Then they could most likely have a way to speak their own opinions. But as it stands. Portland is a one horse town with a pack mule in the Timbers running along side. Portland needs NBA, MLB and NFL to have that kind of channel where someone can get away with "East Coast" type media coverage.
 
kjironman1 said:
No this is not about you. It's about Blazer broadcasting in general. Specifically Blazers Outsiders.
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I would REALLY like to make clear that The Blazers Outsiders are NOTHING to do with Blazers Broadcasting. NOT a thing! No different than some local afternoon radio show who talks about the Blazers. Please don't associate them with what we do.
 
THE HCP said:
I would REALLY like to make clear that The Blazers Outsiders are NOTHING to do with Blazers Broadcasting. NOT a thing! No different than some local afternoon radio show who talks about the Blazers. Please don't associate them with what we do.
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I stand corrected. But they are part of Comcast and the Blazer coverage that is being shown. They are part of the Blazers post game show. Just not "Blazer Broadcasting" as part of bringing the game to TV.
 
THE HCP said:
I would REALLY like to make clear that The Blazers Outsiders are NOTHING to do with Blazers Broadcasting. NOT a thing! No different than some local afternoon radio show who talks about the Blazers. Please don't associate them with what we do.
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Both presented by Comcast Sports NW.
Same people who pay you.
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kjironman1 said:
No this is not about you. It's about Blazer broadcasting in general. Specifically Blazers Outsiders.
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So there's only one sport to focus on but the audience doesn't want anything other than surface level fluff and homerism?

You are basically saying the fans don't want to think for themselves and to feed them unicorns and rainbows. This does serve a purpose occasionally but to say in this day and age with social media that people couldn't handle a show that had both positive discussions and criticism is an outdated take.

Most fans are smart enough to recognize the difference between being a negative nancy and a fair breakdown of what's going on that isn't just praising every part of the team no matter what they do.
 
kjironman1 said:
Both presented by Comcast Sports NW.
Same people who pay you.
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Negative, I have a contract with the team, they pay me, NOT NBC Sports. They have no affiliation with the Blazers, other than they talk about the team. No different than whatever those Talkin ball guys did.
 
kjironman1 said:
I stand corrected. But they are part of Comcast and the Blazer coverage that is being shown. They are part of the Blazers post game show. Just not "Blazer Broadcasting" as part of bringing the game to TV.
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Blazers pre, half and postgame show and the game obviously is Blazers Broadcasting content. That’s it. Outsiders, local sports radio shows, camping and rodeo infomercials or whatever else they air is NBC Sports. Totally different.
 
THE HCP said:
Blazers pre, half and postgame show and the game obviously is Blazers Broadcasting content. That’s it. Outsiders, local sports radio shows, camping and rodeo infomercials or whatever else they air is NBC Sports. Totally different.
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Comcast has the contract with the Blazers. That is the only difference. It's Blazer content. They have to follow the rules or they are out. Talkin Blaa was the same way. Yes i purposely spelled the BLAA.....
 
hoopsjock said:
So there's only one sport to focus on but the audience doesn't want anything other than surface level fluff and homerism?
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Nobody anywhere ever said this?
hoopsjock said:
You are basically saying the fans don't want to think for themselves and to feed them unicorns and rainbows
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Nobody anywhere ever said this either. What has been said was a response to a comment about "East Coast" television coverage. Portland is nowhere in the league of NewYork. New Jersey, Philly, Boston. All those places have three sports at least and multiple venues to attend to.
hoopsjock said:
people couldn't handle a show that had both positive discussions and criticism is an outdated take.
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Nobody said that either. Just that the people they are directing at are not those people.
hoopsjock said:
Most fans are smart enough to recognize the difference between being a negative nancy and a fair breakdown of what's going on
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Not really. You are not most fans. Actually Most fans don't care. They turn it off or go back to drinking their beer with their friends.
 
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