Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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oldmangrouch said:
Davis or Sochan are closer to contribution than Sharpe.
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This shouldn't be the mindset.

If our team is currently a tier 4 team.

Boston and GS are tier 1 teams.

Does Sochan or Davis really get us that closer to Golden State or Boston? No.... not really. Right now we're probably a fringe playoff team, simply because of Dame and Grant, but would either of those guys take us up an echelon? Highly highly doubtful, and I don't think that changes in the next couple years. I really don't think people are being realistic about how far we are from truly contending. That's why I have always been a proponent of trading Dame and starting over. I think we're a long way from contending and I really don't see us bridging that gap by the time Dame is on the downslope of his career.

And even if we had traded the pick, I'm not convinced that anyone who was available would have really taken us up into the top echelon either. We need someone like Kevin Durant or another similar star caliber player to really and truly change our stars.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Yes, and no. Personally, I just want the team to pick a lane. If they are determined to try one more futile effort to contend with this foundation - then go all in and accept the consequences. If they are willing to do a serious retooling (my preference), then no more trading future assets for non-impact vets. Trying to do both at once rarely works.
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To mean it feels like they are straddling the lane: trade for Grant being going for it and keeping the 7th being not going for it at all.
 
blazerfan11 said:
He did the fake timeout too, more than once.
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Truly a legendary player. We were fortunate to have him.

That’s what we need… Andre Miller 2.0

Maybe Sharpe has Andre Miller BBIQ. Never know… There are things you can’t teach, that’s what separates players. Right place right time, being dominant at something in particular, etc…
 
Propagandist said:
To mean it feels like they are straddling the lane: trade for Grant being going for it and keeping the 7th being not going for it at all.
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unless they think Sharpe is going to contribute as much or more than someone they can trade for. Btw Toronto wanted to much for OG so that wasn’t even an option
 
It’ll be interesting to compare Shaedon Sharpe and Jalen Green down the line. They’re projected to be similar kind of players. In terms of size, Shaedon grades out as a better overall prospect: both are around 6’6 in shoes, Shaedon is probably 15-20lbs heavier, and has a superior wingspan/standing reach (6’11.5/8’7.5 vs 6’7/8’5). That’s really exciting.

Green came into HOU as the clear cut number 1 guy. Sharpe is probably not even going to get 15mpg this year. But I’m interested to see if the benefit of being in a better situation (all star veteran guard, HOF PG head coach, a better overall team) will help Sharpe develop Green into an overall better player down the line.
 
illmatic99 said:
Our dumbass coach hated the guy because Andre was smarter than him. Remember when he called him out in front of the whole team?
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Maybe the best young team/rebuild coach and simultaneously the worst playoff winning coach in the league.
 
oldmangrouch said:
If they are serious about winning in the next 3 years, Davis or Sochan are closer to contribution than Sharpe. If they are looking for a long-term plan, IMHO Duren would have been the pick. Tremendous upside and a proven track record for competing against decent competition.
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We could have had Duren too. Detroit used our 2025 Milwaukee pick to get him. Oh well.
 
Propagandist said:
Maybe he will be great but when? Not soon. And who's he going to play ahead of right now? Do you see minutes for him?

So, in three or four season (optimistically) he *might* be awesome. Why are we acting like this is a good thing? This is about complimenting a guy who is awesome wight now.
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The roster sucks. There is no chance that they'll be contenders this season no matter what offseason moves are made. They will have to do everything right to be competitive in a couple years & by that time hopefully the BPA guy from today's draft will be starting to hit his stride.

I don't root for the Lillard Trailblazers, I root for the Portland Trailblazers. It's a shame that they wasted so much of Dame's career shifting the furniture about. Its about damn time management started making the best long term decisions.

STOMP
 
Propagandist said:
I was replying to someone about critical thinking. I'm not *that* smug.

And I'm not the GM. I can just say this isn't the move...and hopefully the move is coming.
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Understood.
Im not about criticizing the GM but not having alternative scenarios lined out, showing why the critique holds merit.
Without that, there is no merit in the critique.
It can certainly come off as smug to smash the decision without providing an alternative realistic option.
Its basically saying this:

“bad move”
“Why?”
“Cause i said so”
“Why do you say so?”
“Because I said so. I’’m not the gm. Let them answer. I just know it cause i said so.”

That doesn't seem like critical thinking to me. It seems like complaining without an alternative solution.

I apologize if that came off harsh. Im just not a fan of complaining about something without a potential solution in mind.
My father always used to tell me to not come to him with a problem without at least half a solution.
If it cant be fixed or improved, ya make do with what ya got!
 
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Propagandist said:
To mean it feels like they are straddling the lane: trade for Grant being going for it and keeping the 7th being not going for it at all.
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We don't what the offers were for the 7th pick. I'm sure Sacramento would have traded the 4th pick if they could have gotten a clearly better return.
 
BankTeller said:
I would’ve liked Hayward and Duren on the squad with Sharpe. That would’ve been one hell of a draft night.
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The Blazers would have been the big winners in the draft instead of Detroit. I hope having a few more years of Dame makes up for having to pass on possibly getting Duren.
 
Propagandist said:
What is with all the critical thinking talk? Hope is not critical thinking. We just added ANOTHER unknown and unproven variable to an already unsteady ship... Critically thinking, what can happen to unsteady ships?
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Critical thinking is also not looking at just one side. Critical thinking is looking at the full picture and making the the best assessment. Shouldn’t be just the positive or just the negative.

I don’t really think anyone here has the ability to assess the situation fully like the front office does because we lack the data to make the best decision. Everyone is going based on their appetite for risk.

Personally im more of a risk taker so I applaud the pick. I would also applaud a trade for an allstar using him come free agency, I just don’t see those possibilities. I have more faith in gathering talent with your best assets and using smaller assets to fill the holes.
 
Propagandist said:
To mean it feels like they are straddling the lane: trade for Grant being going for it and keeping the 7th being not going for it at all.
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It's straddling the lane of keeping Dame happy.

We got him his guy in Grant, but we're taking Sharpe so that we're still keeping an eye on the future.
 
Mr. Robot said:
if shaedon sharpe impresses chauncey billups in the pre-season, hell be part of the rotation, simple as that

coach billups is not like terry stotts, he will actually play young guys if they deserve to play
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Sharpe can make a Jalen Green kind of impact this year if he impresses early. Is Chauncey coaching Summer League? He needs to be. I want him working with Sharpe even before training camp starts.
 
BlazerBender said:
Understood.
Im not about criticizing the GM but not having alternative scenarios lined out, showing why the critique holds merit.
Without that, there is no merit in the critique.
It can certainly come off as smug to smash the decision without providing an alternative realistic option.
Its basically saying this:

“bad move”
“Why?”
“Cause i said so”
“Why do you say so?”
“Because I said so. I’’m not the gm. Let them answer. I just know it cause i said so.”

That doesn't seem like critical thinking to me. It seems like complaining without an alternative solution.
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This is so untrue. You do not need a solution to say something is not right. How the fuck do I know what's available? My job isn't to provide solutions for the guy who gets paid to provide solutions.

The point was and remains to be: this was not the plan.
 
Mr. Robot said:
if shaedon sharpe impresses chauncey billups in the pre-season, hell be part of the rotation, simple as that

coach billups is not like terry stotts, he will actually play young guys if they deserve to play
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This is it. Night and day between the coaches. Chauncey will play him, and then we shall see....
 
South East said:
Critical thinking is also not looking at just one side. Critical thinking is looking at the full picture and making the the best assessment. Shouldn’t be just the positive or just the negative.

I don’t really think anyone here has the ability to assess the situation fully like the front office does because we lack the data to make the best decision. Everyone is going based on their appetite for risk.

Personally im more of a risk taker so I applaud the pick. I would also applaud a trade for an allstar using him come free agency, I just don’t see those possibilities. I have more faith in gathering talent with your best assets and using smaller assets to fill the holes.
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I was being sarcastic about the critical thinking stuff, responding to @Natebishop3, who I adore, but disagree with on this point.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
A bonafide what?
Does that mean you have sources? Or just really want to have sources? Just a really avid fan?

I’m a bonafide fan I assume but my tweeter does not have a blue checkmark. Can I pay to get one?
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You want a blue checkmark? I can get you a blue checkmark. Just send me a couple hundred bucks. TRUST ME...... :smiley-pucaodsmijeh


(Why does this sound like a SlyPokerDog scam???)
 
2023 NBA Rookie of the Year Odds
Player Odds

Paolo Banchero +300
Jabari Smith Jr +350
Jaden Ivey +475
Keegan Murray +500
Bennedict Mathurin +800
Shaedon Sharpe +1200
Dyson Daniels +1200
Johnny Davis +1500
Ochai Agbaji +2000
Jalen Williams +2000
AJ Griffin +2500
Ousmane Dieng +2500
Mark Williams +2500
Jalen Duren +3000
EJ Liddell +3000
Blake Wesley +3000
Jeremy Sochan +3500
Jaden Hardy +3500
Walker Kessler +4500
Malaki Branham +4500
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2021-22 - Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
2020-21 - LaMelo Ball, Charlotte Hornets
2019-20 - Ja Morant, Memphis Grizzlies
2018-19 - Luka Doncic, Dallas Mavericks
2017-18 - Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers
2016-17 - Malcolm Brogdon, Milwaukee Bucks
2015-16 - Karl-Anthony Towns, Minnesota Timberwolves
2014-15 - Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves
2013-14 - Michael Carter-Williams, Philadelphia 76ers
2012-13 - Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
2011-12 - Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
2010-11 - Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
 
STOMP said:
The roster sucks. There is no chance that they'll be contenders this season no matter what offseason moves are made. They will have to do everything right to be competitive in a couple years & by that time hopefully the BPA guy from today's draft will be starting to hit his stride.

I don't root for the Lillard Trailblazers, I root for the Portland Trailblazers. It's a shame that they wasted so much of Dame's career shifting the furniture about. Its about damn time management started making the best long term decisions.

STOMP
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Finally have loyal superstar and you’re mad because the team doesn’t stay loyal to him. Had we drafted Durant that guy would have left the first chance he had
 
Natebishop3 said:
It's straddling the lane of keeping Dame happy.

We got him his guy in Grant, but we're taking Sharpe so that we're still keeping an eye on the future.
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I'm not used to you being optimistic. You're not disappointed at all? Like four years from now when Sharpe is All-NBA or is a bust, I'm not going to be like "I stand corrected" or "told you so," I'll just lament missing a chance at something with Dame.
 
To me this pick is very reminiscent to the late 90’s early 2k’s when picking a Hs player was in vogue. Now players are going the G League/ Prep school route and that is how I view Sharpe. The question you have to ask is “will he be this generations version of a Jermaine O’Neil type of prospect or a Lenny Cooke type? I for one and hoping that he is on the Jermaine level or greater!
 
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