Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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BankTeller said:
Sharpe can make a Jalen Green kind of impact this year if he impresses early. Is Chauncey coaching Summer League? He needs to be. I want him working with Sharpe even before training camp starts.
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Sharpe is in a much better environment than Green.
 
Propagandist said:
I'm not used to you being optimistic. You're not disappointed at all? Like four years from now when Sharpe is All-NBA or is a bust, I'm not going to be like "I stand corrected" or "told you so," I'll just lament missing a chance at something with Dame.
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What is it exactly that we missed out on? Which superstar?
 
Propagandist said:
I'm not used to you being optimistic. You're not disappointed at all? Like four years from now when Sharpe is All-NBA or is a bust, I'm not going to be like "I stand corrected" or "told you so," I'll just lament missing a chance at something with Dame.
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I have already resolved myself to this team not winning anything with Dame. It's basically impossible that they're going to put together a contender around him in the next 2-3 years. So for me, I'd much rather take Sharpe and then when the team realizes that Dame needs to go, we have Ant/Sharpe.

Or.... there's the very small chance that Sharpe blows the fuck up and we have our second star.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Finally have loyal superstar and you’re mad because the team doesn’t stay loyal to him. Had we drafted Durant that guy would have left the first chance he had
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You couldn't be more wrong. I'm mad that they didn't fire Soapy 5 years ago and made one stupid decision after another since. So here we are today, with a shitty roster. Glad they aren't doing something stupid for the short term (yeah! we signed Derrick Jones Jr.!!!) and instead are taking the long term approach.

FWIW, the short term band aid I'd have been semi-OK with is drafting Sochan. I think he's got some real upside as a tweener forward with non-scoring skills they could have used, but again glad (not mad) that they went with the longterm BPA in their view.

STOMP
 
Propagandist said:
This is so untrue. You do not need a solution to say something is not right. How the fuck do I know what's available? My job isn't to provide solutions for the guy who gets paid to provide solutions.

The point was and remains to be: this was not the plan.
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Are you aware of the major contradiction in your post?
You don't know what was available, you aren't the GM, its not your job to know…. Yet you know this was not the plan????
My point stands about complaining.
Not true to you maybe. Very true to me and many other problem solver types.
Some just complain, some look to provide answers to the complaints.
I prefer answers over just complaints.
I am going to move on now because this just makes zero sense to me.
I hope things go the way you want and you find some hope for the future of this team.
We are all Blazer fans.
 
Propagandist said:
This is so untrue. You do not need a solution to say something is not right. How the fuck do I know what's available? My job isn't to provide solutions for the guy who gets paid to provide solutions.

The point was and remains to be: this was not the plan.
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Ha, funny that you think you are providing a solution by saying they should have gotten a difference-maker by trading #7 when we have all been debating for months who such a player could be....without any success. Seems like it was a good question.
 
PDXFonz said:
2023 NBA Rookie of the Year Odds
Player Odds

Paolo Banchero +300
Jabari Smith Jr +350
Jaden Ivey +475
Keegan Murray +500
Bennedict Mathurin +800
Shaedon Sharpe +1200
Dyson Daniels +1200
Johnny Davis +1500
Ochai Agbaji +2000
Jalen Williams +2000
AJ Griffin +2500
Ousmane Dieng +2500
Mark Williams +2500
Jalen Duren +3000
EJ Liddell +3000
Blake Wesley +3000
Jeremy Sochan +3500
Jaden Hardy +3500
Walker Kessler +4500
Malaki Branham +4500
——————————————————————
2021-22 - Scottie Barnes, Toronto Raptors
2020-21 - LaMelo Ball, Charlotte Hornets
2019-20 - Ja Morant, Memphis Grizzlies
2018-19 - Luka Doncic, Dallas Mavericks
2017-18 - Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers
2016-17 - Malcolm Brogdon, Milwaukee Bucks
2015-16 - Karl-Anthony Towns, Minnesota Timberwolves
2014-15 - Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves
2013-14 - Michael Carter-Williams, Philadelphia 76ers
2012-13 - Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
2011-12 - Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
2010-11 - Blake Griffin, Los Angeles Clippers
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wow! Chet not even on the list?
 
blazerfan11 said:
What is it exactly that we missed out on? Which superstar?
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This putting words in my mouth is getting tedious. I don't know. I am not privy to such info. I just know Sharpe is the definition of an unknown in a time when we need something. Hell, he doesn't even play the position we need, unless we are going with playing an undersized SF again. And if he plays, we will not be good. What good team plays a kid without a minute of college game experience and succeeds? I mean, we all know this at heart. We are fucked.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I have already resolved myself to this team not winning anything with Dame. It's basically impossible that they're going to put together a contender around him in the next 2-3 years. So for me, I'd much rather take Sharpe and then when the team realizes that Dame needs to go, we have Ant/Sharpe.

Or.... there's the very small chance that Sharpe blows the fuck up and we have our second star.
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Okay. You're talking my language now.

If this is our path though, we should not have traded for Grant (although that deal was pretty good, in my opinion).
 
I heard somewhere that ESPN draft "experts" might have had access to prospects before the draft, so there is a good chance that Schmitz had more info about him which made them happy about this pick.
 
Propagandist said:
Okay. You're talking my language now.

If this is our path though, we should not have traded for Grant (although that deal was pretty good, in my opinion).
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I like Grant and have advocated for him for years. However, reality is what it is for the Blazers and I don't see a path to contending in the short term. While I also thought the deal to acquiring JG was pretty good, getting Duren with the 2025 Bucks pick would have been much better for two years from now when they might be good again.

STOMP
 


8-10 in this one. Watching players off ball matters too.
 
STOMP said:
I like Grant and have advocated for him for years. However, reality is what it is for the Blazers and I don't see a path to contending in the short term. While I also thought the deal to acquiring JG was pretty good, getting Duren with the 2025 Bucks pick would have been much better for two years from now when they might be good again.

STOMP
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So if we can pull something off...with assets I'm not seeing, I guess...to get us a starting SF, there's always the chance Dame can drag us somewhere good. Sharpe can develop and everything is great, but geez, everything has to break the right way.
 
andalusian said:
I heard somewhere that ESPN draft "experts" might have had access to prospects before the draft, so there is a good chance that Schmitz had more info about him which made them happy about this pick.
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You mean like this...

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Natebishop3 said:
I have already resolved myself to this team not winning anything with Dame. It's basically impossible that they're going to put together a contender around him in the next 2-3 years. So for me, I'd much rather take Sharpe and then when the team realizes that Dame needs to go, we have Ant/Sharpe.

Or.... there's the very small chance that Sharpe blows the fuck up and we have our second star.
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Ding ding ding, wish I could like this more. If Ant/Sharpe somehow end up wining/competing for a championship for Portland, instead of Dame, is that the end of the world? Not for me. This is more of a what if scenario and maybe something that happens in an alternate universe or something. I just hope we all get to live in that universe and experience it.
 
PDXFonz said:


8-10 in this one. Watching players off ball matters too.
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That alley oop halfway through the third really woke up the team and Sharpe haha

Edit: I've seen him miss three shots so far so can't be 8-10.
 
Propagandist said:
I just don't think that's the point: who else are you going to get in the meantime. And no one knows what's available. Maybe there was nothing and this was all Cronin could do. That doesn't mean it doesn't fit the plan.

What your critical thinking is telling you is that we suck and we are fucked unless Sharpe--a kid who didn't look spectacular in high school and didn't play in college--suddenly pops? I mean, the number of variables involved in this are incalculable. There's no critical thought involved here.

If Joe has something great up his sleeve, I'll be the first to laud him. And I don't dislike Sharpe, I just can't help but think everyone in here is delusional about what it means for our team.
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I don't think you've watched the video on Sharpe. He was spectacular in high school. He was the number one recruit in his class until he reclassified.

You're putting yourself through a lot over something you should be excited about.
 
Propagandist said:
Okay. You're talking my language now.

If this is our path though, we should not have traded for Grant (although that deal was pretty good, in my opinion).
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The Grant trade is pretty low risk. We only gave up the Bucks pick, some second rounders and the TPE. Grant isn't even that old so to me, it's a pretty low risk move and as long as we don't horribly overpay him, he should have value if we decide to blow it up in a year or two.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't think you've watched the video on Sharpe. He was spectacular in high school. He was the number one recruit in his class until he reclassified.

You're putting yourself through a lot over something you should be excited about.
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Haha. Let’s hope so. I just expected a known quantity.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The Grant trade is pretty low risk. We only gave up the Bucks pick, some second rounders and the TPE. Grant isn't even that old so to me, it's a pretty low risk move and as long as we don't horribly overpay him, he should have value if we decide to blow it up in a year or two.
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we're gonna have to make a decision on Grant next summer or risk him walking for nothing.
 
Blazers went with home-run swing
From studying the shape of this year’s draft, the other fascinating spot within the top 10 was the Trail Blazers’ pick at No. 7, which wound up being Shaedon Sharpe. Based on the chatter, it felt to me like Portland had mostly cooled on potential trade scenarios in recent days and was believed by rival teams to be deciding between Sharpe and Dyson Daniels. The Blazers were known to be high on both players, and there was dissent within their braintrust as to which was the better option, with Sharpe a massive home-run swing and Daniels a plug-and-play utility guard with upside.

Sharpe didn’t play at all at Kentucky, and most decision-makers had never seen him play live. Teams were evaluating primarily off of in-person contact, background intel and tape from the Nike EYBL, where I saw him play last summer at Peach Jam. Sharpe’s camp was willing to put him in group workouts and showcase his competitive mettle against other lottery-level prospects, from which very mixed feedback circulated around the league, but that was probably to be expected from someone who hadn’t played much high-level, competitive basketball. Sharpe’s gifts are evident, but it’s going to take him some time to make an impact, something that doesn’t necessarily align with what the Blazers are trying to accomplish. They acquired Jerami Grant from the Pistons earlier in the week, which was a clear win-now decision. So as other teams tried to assess Portland’s strategy, that threw some doubt onto which of Daniels and Sharpe they actually preferred.

Some around the league suspect that Damian Lillard was a major factor in the Blazers’ decision, which feels like a pretty reasonable hunch: as Portland continues to try and toe the line between competing for the playoffs and laying groundwork for a post-Lillard future, cooperation with their star player is an essential part of maintaining a happy equilibrium within the organization. According to sources with knowledge of the situation, Lillard was involved with the Blazers’ predraft process and took a strong interest in Sharpe during his visits to Portland. (Per sources, Sharpe worked out for the Blazers on two different occasions, once in early June and again on June 15.) I was told that members of Portland’s group made a ton of calls to Kentucky staffers throughout the process and were clearly quite invested. And I suspect the Blazers would never have taken a clear long-view route at this pick without Lillard’s co-sign.

By taking Sharpe at No. 7, the Blazers gifted the Pelicans and Spurs with their preferred options at No. 8 and No. 9. New Orleans’s brass had fallen in love with Daniels and were anxiously waiting to see if he’d make it to their selection. San Antonio coveted Jeremy Sochan, but was nervous the Pelicans might take him at No. 8. Washington, picking at No. 10, was viewed by some rival teams as Sharpe’s floor. But the Wizards were also quite high on Johnny Davis, who was the obvious solution to their backcourt needs at that spot. All four of those players ranked inside my top 10 and could have been in play at any of those spots. And to me, that’s where the second, high-quality tier of draft prospects ended.
https://www.si.com/nba/2022/06/24/nba-draft-paolo-banchero-chet-holmgren-jabari-smith-final-thoughts
 
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