Notice Blazers Pick Shaedon Sharpe With #7 Pick

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That gym is where Beckner runs his workouts, so if he was there it’s a good bet he was working with him. Makes Marangutan’s claims even funnier. Someone should call him out on it.
 
This idea that he won't be ready to contribute right away is a bit premature. He won't be a finished product, but he could certainly be ready to contribute right away.

His trainer seems to think he is more polished than SGA and RJ Barrett (both guys he also trained) were at that age. Anthony Edwards is another comp that some have thrown out. They are very similar in terms of their measurements Edwards did have 20 lbs on him as a rookie though. But Edwards put up 19ppg his rookie year. They made the playoffs in his 2nd season (not saying Sharpe's going to average 19ppg as a rookie. But he should hopefully be able to be a contributor right away). IF this kid is as good as we hope, the timeline for him might not be what people think. He seems much more ready to go than someone like Simons was at that age.
 
hoopsjock said:
It's for sure him. Don't be scared! Great work!
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lol what would i be scared of?

Regardless if it really is shaedon, i'm just glad it indicates dame potentially taking him under his wing. Sharpe's work ethic was my biggest question mark. If he can tag along with Dame and Ant to Beckner's masterclass, then we should probably be more confident about this pick.

Also a nice anecdote that any reason for Dame to be upset over the selection is false. Woo's report also confirms that.
 
I'm almost 100% a take the player who you think is going to be the best overall regardless of position, but in this particular case with how much has been said about needing bigger wings and not wanting to play small if they don't have to (i.e. Hart at SF), plus the mystery of Sharpe being a complete unknown in terms of readiness to play, I too questioned why the risk was taken by the Blazers given their situation and needs.

However, I can live with the BPA strategy if everyone involved is aligned in thinking that Sharpe has star potential. Dame being on board erased my fears about Sharpe's BBIQ and I am walking back my comments from the other night about him. I was wrong to judge him on a few random interviews.

I still don't know how this is all going to work out and I really hope Ant (who I think is going to be a star) doesn't have his role reduced because of this. It's similar to if we would've taken Donovan Mitchell in 2017. Does he become the same player behind Dame and CJ? If you're good, you'll find a way. I think having too many stars is ultimately a better problem to have than not enough.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This shouldn't be the mindset.

If our team is currently a tier 4 team.

Boston and GS are tier 1 teams.

Does Sochan or Davis really get us that closer to Golden State or Boston? No.... not really. Right now we're probably a fringe playoff team, simply because of Dame and Grant, but would either of those guys take us up an echelon? Highly highly doubtful, and I don't think that changes in the next couple years. I really don't think people are being realistic about how far we are from truly contending. That's why I have always been a proponent of trading Dame and starting over. I think we're a long way from contending and I really don't see us bridging that gap by the time Dame is on the downslope of his career.

And even if we had traded the pick, I'm not convinced that anyone who was available would have really taken us up into the top echelon either. We need someone like Kevin Durant or another similar star caliber player to really and truly change our stars.
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I pretty much agree, but the question was what would make more sense when combined with the Grant trade. If the Blazers are really still in win now mode, it makes sense to go with the lower risk/lower reward/more developed player. Just remember this is coming from someone who wouldn't have made the Grant deal, so it is clearly biased.
 
Propagandist said:
Stop it. Everyone knows what that means.
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I don't. Does it mean he won't be ready to contribute at the start of the season but should get the hang of it in the first couple of months, by the allstar break, by the playoffs? Does it mean that he won't make meaningful contributions until his sophomore season? Does it mean like Ant that he won't really be impactful until his fourth season?

Regardless it's pure speculation. Let's see what he looks like in Summer League.
 
Just want to call out that Sharpe said he had never spoken to Dame. Ever. He said he hasn’t really spoken to any NBA player.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Just want to call out that Sharpe said he had never spoken to Dame. Ever. He said he hasn’t really spoken to any NBA player.
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You mean officially, on record, he hasn't. If you believe random IG posts that is clearly a lie.
 
Propagandist said:
What is with all the critical thinking talk? Hope is not critical thinking. We just added ANOTHER unknown and unproven variable to an already unsteady ship... Critically thinking, what can happen to unsteady ships?
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We need unknown and unproven variables. We're not getting to contention unless we take some high-risk, high-reward chances. If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential, all of a sudden Dame's window becomes 6 or 7 years because then I think Dame will still be good enough to be the 3rd best player on a championship team.
 
blazerkor said:
I don't. Does it mean he won't be ready to contribute at the start of the season but should get the hang of it in the first couple of months, by the allstar break, by the playoffs? Does it mean that he won't make meaningful contributions until his sophomore season? Does it mean like Ant that he won't really be impactful until his fourth season?

Regardless it's pure speculation. Let's see what he looks like in Summer League.
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It means Sharpe's developmental timeline doesn't seem to fit in with the timeless of our expressed plan and thus the surprise at the pick.

This is so frustrating, everyone acting like this makes sense.
 
Propagandist said:
It means Sharpe's developmental timeline doesn't seem to fit in with the timeless of our expressed plan and thus the surprise at the pick.

This is so frustrating, everyone acting like this makes sense.
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Jason Kidd won a championship at 37 years old, playing 36mpg and starting in 80 games that season. Why is it championship or bust this year or next? Dame will likely still be good at 34, 35, 36 years old. Give the young guys 2 years to grow and help Dame win it. There is no path for Portland to win this year or likely next. There is hope at the end of that tunnel though
 
BonesJones said:
We need unknown and unproven variables. We're not getting to contention unless we take some high-risk, high-reward chances. If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential, all of a sudden Dame's window becomes 6 or 7 years because then I think Dame will still be good enough to be the 3rd best player on a championship team.
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I like this way of thinking, and agree with it. Not that what I think means squat.....

I'm just here to get information, and watch you guys bicker around each other.... :biglaugh:
 
BonesJones said:
We need unknown and unproven variables. We're not getting to contention unless we take some high-risk, high-reward chances. If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential, all of a sudden Dame's window becomes 6 or 7 years because then I think Dame will still be good enough to be the 3rd best player on a championship team.
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This is giving up on Dame being the guy, which is insane: he is the only known quantity.

6 or 7 years? How incredibly optimistic and equally disconcerting. To me that is you saying we are kicking the can. Then why trade for Grant, why sign Nurk? Maybe why keep Hart? Isn't Nas in the way of Sharpe, isn't Hart and Ant? I don't know, man...
 
Propagandist said:
This is giving up on Dame being the guy, which is insane: he is the only known quantity.

6 or 7 years? How incredibly optimistic and equally disconcerting. To me that is you saying we are kicking the can. Then why trade for Grant, why sign Nurk? Maybe why keep Hart? Isn't Nas in the way of Sharpe, isn't Hart and Ant? I don't know, man...
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I think the Blazers think it is good enough to compete soon given Dame being healthy and how well some of those players played for a few games after the deadline. It's crazy to put that much stock into it, but I think they're going the strategy of build a solid foundation (Nurk, Grant, Hart) and hope a couple of the young guys pop (Nas, Ant, Sharpe, Watford, Walker). I agree with you that it seems unlikely, but given the situation it is probably their only real chance is to take big risks and hope at least a couple of them go to the moon.
 
Fitz303 said:
Jason Kidd won a championship at 37 years old, playing 36mpg and starting in 80 games that season. Why is it championship or bust this year or next? Dame will likely still be good at 34, 35, 36 years old. Give the young guys 2 years to grow and help Dame win it. There is no path for Portland to win this year or likely next. There is hope at the end of that tunnel though
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Now we are firmly in fantasy land. So, instead of trading 7, we are going to develop these guys, with a minutes crunch, with Dame playing the way he does, with Nurk wanting touches and Grant now, for the possibility that a kid we drafted is going to propel us into contention when our actual star is over the hill, instead of finding a way, mortgaging/trading/whatever to get better in the meantime while he is in his prime?
 
Propagandist said:
It means Sharpe's developmental timeline doesn't seem to fit in with the timeless of our expressed plan and thus the surprise at the pick.

This is so frustrating, everyone acting like this makes sense.
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So the Warriors should have never gotten Jordan Poole. The Suns should have never gotten Ayton or Bridges. The Sixers should give away Maxey. It's absolutely nonsense. There's no team in the league where all the rotation guys are in the same age range.
 
B-Roy said:
Am I the only one who thinks Sharpe should get a guaranteed spot in the rotation???
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You might not be the only one, but he shouldn't see rotational minutes until he proves it. If he proves it year one or year two or year three, he does need to prove it. A guy who hasn't played a second of college ball should never get a guaranteed rotational spot. We sucked last year but we weren't Orlando bad lol.
 
hoopsjock said:
I'm almost 100% a take the player who you think is going to be the best overall regardless of position, but in this particular case with how much has been said about needing bigger wings and not wanting to play small if they don't have to (i.e. Hart at SF), plus the mystery of Sharpe being a complete unknown in terms of readiness to play, I too questioned why the risk was taken by the Blazers given their situation and needs.

However, I can live with the BPA strategy if everyone involved is aligned in thinking that Sharpe has star potential. Dame being on board erased my fears about Sharpe's BBIQ and I am walking back my comments from the other night about him. I was wrong to judge him on a few random interviews.

I still don't know how this is all going to work out and I really hope Ant (who I think is going to be a star) doesn't have his role reduced because of this. It's similar to if we would've taken Donovan Mitchell in 2017. Does he become the same player behind Dame and CJ? If you're good, you'll find a way. I think having too many stars is ultimately a better problem to have than not enough.
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I don't think they'd of taken him if ants role was gonna be reduced.

I have my concerns too and am in lock step with you at "well, everyone is on board let's roll with it."
 
illmatic99 said:
don't think that's nas.

btw, does anyone else remember the welcome to Oden the day after the draft in Pioneer Square? I was taking summer classes at PSU and walked over. Felt like we just won a title.

All downhill from there.
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Blevins?
 
oldmangrouch said:
If they are serious about winning in the next 3 years, Davis or Sochan are closer to contribution than Sharpe. If they are looking for a long-term plan, IMHO Duren would have been the pick. Tremendous upside and a proven track record for competing against decent competition.
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I was very disappointed we didn't find a way to get Duren. But alas, the cupboard was bare.
 
AmirIcon said:
So the Warriors should have never gotten Jordan Poole. The Suns should have never gotten Ayton or Bridges. The Sixers should give away Maxey. It's absolutely nonsense. There's no team in the league where all the rotation guys are in the same age range.
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This is irritating. Where did I say any of these things? Seriously, where did I say a single one of those things? They are so dumb I have trouble believing you aren't kidding. I can't even, it's just too much, too embarrassing.
 
Propagandist said:
This is giving up on Dame being the guy, which is insane: he is the only known quantity.

6 or 7 years? How incredibly optimistic and equally disconcerting. To me that is you saying we are kicking the can. Then why trade for Grant, why sign Nurk? Maybe why keep Hart? Isn't Nas in the way of Sharpe, isn't Hart and Ant? I don't know, man...
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Apparently you completely ignored the part where I said "If Sharpe and Ant can fulfill their vast potential".

Sharpe has the talent to be good soon. Or he could suck. But you're not winning a chip with ae by drafting a guy who's going to be only a role player. Instead, they took a dude who could be a legitimate star four years from now. This reminds me of when the Blazers took Ant over guys like Jacob Evans and everyone was mad about it, but on steroids.

The goal is to compete now and compete into the future. There was no sure bet for a prospect in terms of a guy that would start and help us contend. Betting on upside gives us the best chance to contend down the road. I don't get how that means we shouldn't still try to win now because of what rookie we selected.

Whichever one of Nas or Sharpe is better ends up as our starting SF long-term. Sharpe and Nas at the 3 (Nas can play some small-ball 4) and then Dame/Ant/Hart 3-guard lineup is the plan I think.
 
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Mr. Robot said:
if shaedon sharpe impresses chauncey billups in the pre-season, hell be part of the rotation, simple as that

coach billups is not like terry stotts, he will actually play young guys if they deserve to play
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Billups will play young guys when he can so that if something comes up and they are needed, they might actually be able to contribute.
 
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