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Draftexpress had Alexander going 28th in their final mock.
 
Schilly said:
Not surprising to me at all. Neil is rolling the dice on Alexander and Montero. Both have very high reward potential, but need some development. Most scouting services had Alexander right in there in some cases higher than Okafor, Towns and Russell. Injuries kept him from playing much of his freshman season, then his mom accepted a loan via and event that essentially forced him into leaving early. Then he also had a sore knee that hampered him in workouts.
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Montero is interesting to me. Has handles, passing, and shooting. Very tall. He played better than Nic Batum's first summer league and Nic ended up starting a few months later. He has the guaranteed contract while Cliff is only paid $100k. He's only played one year of JUCO ball so yes it's most likely we send him to the DLeague when the season starts. The DLeague is a massive step up from where he's ever played. Even if these guys are 95% likely to fail that small chance is worth a roll of the dice.
 
santeesioux said:
Yeah, it seems like he specifically brought in some high potential pfs like Alexander and Vonleh, as well as already having Leonard. Not a bad strategy, surely at least one of them will end up becoming a decent starting pf?
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I wouldn't group Vonleh with the others. Noah is a great lottery level prospect that Charlotte was stupid to pass on. Those prospects can definitely fail but they have a real chance at NBA starter or even all star potential.

Alexander, Montero are scrub 15th man prospects we hope can become an end of the bench roll player. They cost nearly zero assets and will likely fail but are worth the risk for a team not interested in winning next season.

I agree in the sense that we are filling the roster with players that have a chance of drastically increasing in value. Some of them will realize it and some will fail. A team trying to win would fill the roster with known contributors that don't have the upside but have a higher floor.
 
Essentially what Neil is doing is bringing in guys who drive and dish... And guys who mop up around the rim. A complimentary combination. Another way of looking at it is he has 1 all star, he is building a fairly strong group of roll players and lacks probably one more strong All Star candidate. With the ages of the guys there should be no hurry to change the course for now. This year's draft will be vital. I'm not calling it a tan, because I see more strategy going on than simply trying to be bad.
 
Schilly said:
Essentially what Neil is doing is bringing in guys who drive and dish... And guys who mop up around the rim. A complimentary combination. Another way of looking at it is he has 1 all star, he is building a fairly strong group of roll players and lacks probably one more strong All Star candidate. With the ages of the guys there should be no hurry to change the course for now. This year's draft will be vital. I'm not calling it a tan, because I see more strategy going on than simply trying to be bad.
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Yeah it's a unique rebuild because Damian isn't super young and most the other players are multi year vets.
 
It's why I keep thinking we have a 2 year window for the complete rebuild. That will have Dame, Aminu and Davis all about 27, just entering into that "prime" window. Perfect place to be to start opening a 5 year window for deep runs into the playoffs.
 
Not to mention Leonard, CJ, Vonleh and Harkless still pretty young and whatever rookies we add via draft. Personally I think we throw a hug offer sheet at Harrison Barnes next summer.
 
Schilly said:
Not to mention Leonard, CJ, Vonleh and Harkless still pretty young and whatever rookies we add via draft. Personally I think we throw a hug offer sheet at Harrison Barnes next summer.
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It'll be like the Millsap, Hibbert, Kanter offer and matched. Barnes is superior to Kanter. More likely we'll have to target and overpay a lesser not yet proven player as undrafted Wesley was to steal him in restricted free agency.

My bet is we trade our lottery pick and a young player on draft day for a disgruntled allstar; then sign Batum. Unless we get a top2 franchise type of stud drafting a player that is a couple months out of high school doesn't mesh with Lillards age.
 
I bet it'll be Derozan since someone said he can opt out.
 
Yeah DeRozen probably won't make sense because we can just sign him outright for the max next summer. Getting him sooner would cost us a young asset; hurt our draft pick and still have us pay him the max.
 
Draco said:
Yeah DeRozen probably won't make sense because we can just sign him outright for the max next summer. Getting him sooner would cost us a young asset; hurt our draft pick and still have us pay him the max.
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Especially if the move was during the season.

However there is an outside chance that if we got him this summer and he "bonded" with Dame, that we would have the inside track for signing him next summer. (He will have multiple suitors) But then again if the experience is bad, then we would have no chance next summer.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Especially if the move was during the season.

However there is an outside chance that if we got him this summer and he "bonded" with Dame, that we would have the inside track for signing him next summer. (He will have multiple suitors) But then again if the experience is bad, then we would have no chance next summer.
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Sure but are we giving up Vonleh and something else for that benefit? Toronto isn't dumping him for 2nd round picks or 3rd string prospects. DeRozen is more accomplished than Batum and coming off a better season.

I'd rather just see how our youth plays the first month of the season. Also see what other teams are disappointments but with assets to trade; then evaluate making a move.
 
I don't know what the plans are, but I would love to see the Blazers pull in 4-5 development coaches. At least one for shooting mechanics and one for post skills. Not game guys, but guys who spend 100% of their time working with these raw prospects. Some of these guys have amazing talent/physical attributes. I don't think they will get very far with standard set drills and the like.
 
Reep said:
I don't know what the plans are, but I would love to see the Blazers pull in 4-5 development coaches. At least one for shooting mechanics and one for post skills. Not game guys, but guys who spend 100% of their time working with these raw prospects. Some of these guys have amazing talent/physical attributes. I don't think they will get very far with standard set drills and the like.
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sooooooooooooooo
Kaman?o_O
 
Been watching vids of this guy, and I think the T-Rob comparisons are misplaced. He's more of a ground-bound widebody from what I can see. I'm thinking more of a Chuck Hayes type. I just hope he can develop the defensive fundamentals to fill that role.

As an aside--I think @jlprk is going to love the way this guy plays.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Been watching vids of this guy, and I think the T-Rob comparisons are misplaced. He's more of a ground-bound widebody from what I can see. I'm thinking more of a Chuck Hayes type. I just hope he can develop the defensive fundamentals to fill that role.

As an aside--I think @jlprk is going to love the way this guy plays.
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How long before he and Vonleh get into a fight in practice from trying to push for position. Both guys have really sold legs and seem to know how to use them.
 
Reep said:
How long before he and Vonleh get into a fight in practice from trying to push for position. Both guys have really sold legs and seem to know how to use them.
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Dunno, but I'm excited about the prospect of those two developing together. They could be good complements to one another.
 
oh Gawd. at first I thought it was this guy
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Cliff looks a lot bigger than 6'8" out on the floor.
 
Draco said:
Yeah DeRozen probably won't make sense because we can just sign him outright for the max next summer. Getting him sooner would cost us a young asset; hurt our draft pick and still have us pay him the max.
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Well you have to take chances in life sometimes and this might be a good time.
 
Does he remind anyone else of a smaller DeAndre Jordan . . . without the broken jump shot?
 
I saw in a draftexpress video that he compared himself to Amare Stoudemire. I can see that. He is an inch shorter, but his standing reach is an inch higher, and wing span almost two inches wider. I hope his IQ is good enough to let him develop. Looks like he has some very nice tools.

One of the closest players he measures up against in height, weight, wingspan and reach is . . . Noah Vonleh.
 
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