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Baracuda said:
Perhaps Miles can sue the Blazers, get legally paid off in a settlement while agreeing not to play the rest of this year. Then everybody wins. :ghoti:
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That could, in fact, be what Miles is up to.

barfo
 
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barfo said:
That could, in fact, be what Miles is up to.

barfo
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Seems as though Miles would have to actually file suit in order to seek a settlement. Otherwise, aren't we dealing with blackmail or extortion?
 
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Baracuda said:
Perhaps Miles can sue the Blazers, get legally paid off in a settlement while agreeing not to play the rest of this year. Then everybody wins. :ghoti:
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All the talk like that sounds like Joe Smith to me.
 
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I don't get the big deal (from the Blazers perspective). Your owner is rich, paying Miles this money really isn't going to effect you guys. You may lose out on the next free agency, but Miles doesn't effect your 2010 plans. Afterall, isn't that what you guys are gunning for?

Sorry just an outsider looking in ;)
 
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Lost One said:
I don't get the big deal (from the Blazers perspective). Your owner is rich, paying Miles this money really isn't going to effect you guys. You may lose out on the next free agency, but Miles doesn't effect your 2010 plans. Afterall, isn't that what you guys are gunning for?

Sorry just an outsider looking in ;)
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Yeah I agree, that's why I think there is something else going on here. The blazers Brain trust wouldn't pull a move like this unless they felt they were holding all the cards. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.
 
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Lost One said:
I don't get the big deal (from the Blazers perspective). Your owner is rich, paying Miles this money really isn't going to effect you guys. You may lose out on the next free agency, but Miles doesn't effect your 2010 plans. Afterall, isn't that what you guys are gunning for?

Sorry just an outsider looking in ;)
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The Blazers won't have cap space in 2010 after re-signing Roy and Aldridge, and presumably won't have cap space again for the better part of the next decade. 2009 is a one shot deal for this generation of the Blazers.
 
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PapaG said:
Seems as though Miles would have to actually file suit in order to seek a settlement. Otherwise, aren't we dealing with blackmail or extortion?
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I'm not the lawyer here, but I'd think that if two parties are allowed to come to a settlement after a suit is filed, they are allowed to come to a settlement before the suit is filed.

barfo
 
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barfo said:
I'm not the lawyer here, but I'd think that if two parties are allowed to come to a settlement after a suit is filed, they are allowed to come to a settlement before the suit is filed.

barfo
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On what basis would the Blazers agree to a settlement prior to a legal filing by Miles? Just wondering what your angle is here. If you are talking arbitration, it seems that it would be between the NBA and the Blazers at this point. Miles is already being paid regardless of the Blazer's cap implications.
 
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PapaG said:
On what basis would the Blazers agree to a settlement prior to a legal filing by Miles? Just wondering what your angle is here. If you are talking arbitration, it seems that it would be between the NBA and the Blazers at this point. Miles is already being paid regardless of the Blazer's cap implications.
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Ah, my angle was to suggest that maybe Miles' comeback had the goal of getting money, rather than playing time. Not that I have any reason to believe that, it is just one possibility out of many.

If Miles was going to sue the Blazers for restricting his ability to make a living, the parties could agree that the the Blazers weren't restricting his ability to make a living. The agreement might take the form of some sort of payment to Miles. On the other hand, such settlement might be expressly prohibited by the CBA - I dunno.

barfo
 
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this is gonna get interesting no doubt
 
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Lost One said:
I don't get the big deal (from the Blazers perspective). Your owner is rich, paying Miles this money really isn't going to effect you guys. You may lose out on the next free agency, but Miles doesn't effect your 2010 plans. Afterall, isn't that what you guys are gunning for?

Sorry just an outsider looking in ;)
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nope, we will already have roy and aldridge locked up. rudy and oden will probably be need to be signed in 2010. our plan is to have cap space in 09
 
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Lost One said:
I don't get the big deal (from the Blazers perspective). Your owner is rich, paying Miles this money really isn't going to effect you guys.
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It's not about money being paid. The Blazers are paying Miles' remaining salary regardless. It's about whether his salary counts against the Blazers' cap. So, it's about salary space, which does matter. Not nearly as much as columnists are trying to pretend...Portland can still open up the cap space for a max contract if they really want to.

But Portland's goal is likely not a max contract superstar anyway, but being able to sign one or more good young veterans.
 
Blazers try to blackball Miles

This could get very bad.....
 
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I think this letter is just a reminder to the other 29 teams that the point of signing Miles to a contract is for him to play basketball, and not to dick over one of your fellow teams, whom you have to get along with.

Are there legitimate reasons for playing guys only 1 or 2 minutes a game? Sure there are, it happens virtually every game. Portland tends to give Channing Frye 3 or 4 minutes a game, which of course make us all call for a trade when he sits down after missing 3 shots and committing 2 fouls during that time, but we all know that Channing serves a purpose to give our more skilled players a breather. I see 10-day contracts as a function of filling empty spots on the bench when injuries deplete your cache of backup players. If a team with 14 healthy players signs Miles, and gives him play time ahead of that guaranteed contract 14th man, then that's a pretty clear dick move, and one that this e-mail intends to remind other teams that Portland doesn't like dick moves. If however, a team is down to 10 players able to suit for a game, then a 10-day contract for Miles has a much better and legitimate purpose behind it, and I can't imagine the Blazers would object to that.

Larry Miller is just reminding the rest of the NBA that they are in the business of playing basketball against each other, not committing corporate espionage.
 
Holy fuck!!!!


That is awesome. Not sure yet if it is a good thing or not, but wow.

Can they really do that? And how could they possibly prove it was malicious?
 
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This is getting ridiculous. The real issue here is that the league has created this weird situation in which other teams can hold significant power over the Blazer's salary cap.

That's a problem because the CBA and the cap structure is set up to prevent such gamesmanship. By utterly failing to fix the situation, the league and I'd imagine the player's union has done Darius Miles (a union member) and one of its teams (the Blazers) massive disservice.

That being said, the Blazers are missing the boat and creating more problems in the way they're handling this. If I were Darius Miles' lawyer, I'd be preparing a letter of my own this morning, perhaps more. If I were another team, I'd be that much more irritated with the Blazers.
 
I wonder how much of this is Tom Penn's handiwork?
 
Nice typo. ;)

In addition, persons or entities involved in such conduct may be individually liable to the Portland Trail Blazers for tortuously interfering with the Portland Trail Blazers' contract rights and perspective economic opportunities.
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entities involved in such conduct may be individually liable to the Portland Trail Blazers
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Hey I just want you guys to know I'm gonna stay outta this one, okay? No need to bring down the hammer here.
 
I get the feeling this isn't going to end well.


I really hope they thought long and hard on this one, and it wasn't Larry Miller being pissed off one morning.
 
Re: Blazers threaten the rest of the NBA

Nikolokolus said:
BTW, I think Miles would have a very strong case against the Blazers if they attempted to block him from pursuing his livelihood (such as it is) ... maybe they're willing to take that risk and pay damages in court that would probably be far outstripped by their luxury tax liability.

Ugh, I really don't care for this shit at all.
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That would be my take as well.
 
My question is, why isn't the Blazers' beef against the NBA, itself? I mean, it was their doctors that finally agreed/concluded Miles was unfit to play.

Right??
 
Seems to me like the players union should be on our side. Miles is getting his $$$ from the contract he signed with us even though he isnt playing for us anymore. So Miles's salary going back on our cap will hurt another player or two that they represent. The less $$ we have to spend, the less $$ available for us to spend on other players this offseason.
 
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