Blazers To Decide On Sitting Lillard, Surgery Soon?

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Should Lillard

  • Sit out games for an extended period to see if his ab heals

    Votes: 3 8.1%

  • Get the damn surgery

    Votes: 33 89.2%

  • Continue taking a few games off here and there and playing

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Play through it and get surgery in the offseason

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    37
illmatic99 said:
And it's hilarious how people think Dame is washed after ONE major injury. This dude is still 31. He dropped 55 in a playoff game 30 games ago.

This ain't David Robinson in 99.
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David Robinson in 99 won the championship.
 
riverman said:
How many times does Dame have to tell you he wants to stick around for his entire career before you stop doubting his words? It's you that's projecting this stuff...not him ..Dame's trade value to Portland is that he doesn't ever want to be traded.....that's value. It's why I love Tim Duncan and what he means to the Spurs....and why I lost all respect for Kawhi, Lebron and AD......I like loyalty and reward it with trust and fandom
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You love Tim Duncan? Guess how Spurs got Duncan?
 
KSF-ERIC said:
But we could get a Doncic or Mobley type that helps immediately or in the second year. Or trade the pick. Dallas made a conscious decision to tank and look how that worked. They have a franchise player who may end up one of the greatest of all time.
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yeah I get all that but I'm not a tank supporter but hey....I'm in no way saying I'm right about this...you guys could all be right but those are just my convictions about the team...I'm glad Dallas got Luka and hope he retires there too...that's my lobby for the league....stop this revolving door and let fans get attached to their Tim Duncans and Damian Lillards.
 
SlyPokerCat said:
I get it. If we get the number 1 pick or a top 3 pick and can get an Evan Mobley. Absolutely. But, timelines don't completely mesh with Dame. That doesn't mean it can't work, but you have to shuffle our other pieces anyways. We can not have a Dame - CJ backcourt anymore.

If a star is in his prime and available, you absolutely consider the pick in trade talks to see what it would take.
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That’s why someone brought up the Suns. Chris Paul doesn’t match Booker/Ayton’s “timelines,” but it’s working.
 
e_blazer said:
I didn’t mean to say that you were pointing at a specific cause. I think it’s the use of the word regression that bugs me since it implies that there’s something going on that is a likely trend going forward. I’d say every player who plays injured sees some fall-off in production. The question is whether there’s reason to think that “regression” is going to be the trend once the injury heals. Dame’s performance after the injection, at least while the cortisone was doing its job, would say the answer is no.
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Not sure where that comes from. The way I was using the word was referring to what has happened so far. So far this season, 30 games in, the performance has regressed from previous years. Who knows what happens the rest of the season. Any presumption would be a guess at this point, especially until his abs get better. Since this is not an isolated issue and has gone on before, who knows what it will take to be completely recovered. Hopefully he returns to form....which means, he wasn't at his normal performance level so far this season.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
There were still 2 months left in the season when David Robinson’s foot healed but they shut him to tank for the pick that got them Duncan.
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still...it doesn't matter how they got the pick, what they did is draft well....losing of course gets you a better pick....whether it's intentional or not I have no idea...
 
No way Lillard sits out rest of season if he elects not to have surgery. He'll put it off till offseason.
 
riverman said:
both were acquired by the draft...the trade wasn't for Dame....it was for the pick that became Dame.
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He's just saying the Blazers didn't get the pick by tanking.

They were crappy that year anyway, with only 28 wins. They didn't have to tank, though with the 11th pick they probably wouldn't have gotten Lillard as he would have been gone by then....so it's good they traded for the pick.

They drafted Meyers Leonard with that 11th pick. We know how that turned out.
 
Chris Craig said:
He's just saying the Blazers didn't get the pick by tanking.

They were crappy that year anyway, with only 28 wins. They didn't have to tank, though with the 11th pick they probably wouldn't have gotten Lillard as he would have been gone by then....so it's good they traded for the pick.

They drafted Meyers Leonard with that 11th pick. We know how that turned out.
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Yeah Baby! We got Swish3!!!
 
quick said it's not a question of "if," but "when" dame elects to have surgery and the team is going to "play this season out for the draft pick."
 
illmatic99 said:
quick said it's not a question of "if," but "when" dame elects to have surgery and the team is going to "play this season out for the draft pick."
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I'm not sure it's certain surgery is the best course of action. There are no guarantees with any surgery and plenty of risks

but if it is recommended, then I do not see any reason to delay. Get it done and tank the damn season. The most important asset the Blazers have right now is a chance at a high draft pick
 
illmatic99 said:
quick said it's not a question of "if," but "when" dame elects to have surgery and the team is going to "play this season out for the draft pick."
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Good. It should have been done months ago. The Olympics strike again though.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm not sure it's certain surgery is the best course of action. There are no guarantees with any surgery and plenty of risks

but if it is recommended, then I do not see any reason to delay. Get it done and tank the damn season. The most important asset the Blazers have right now is a chance at a high draft pick
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Yep, get Dame fixed, let the young guys play and gain experience and trade value if needed, and lets get the best pick we can. Trade Roco for sure and frankly anyone else (likely except Dame) if the right deal comes along
 
Not really sure what the bone of contention was in this. If the surgery is going to be needed, get it now. Get yourself more time to get back into playing shape. Give yourself more of a buffer in case of some kind of setback during rehab. The Blazers aren't going to win in the playoffs this year even if they get Simmons and Sabonis without gutting the roster if Dame's not over 90%.

If I'm the Blazers, I encourage Dame to get the surgery and I have Cronin to still try to make a couple of big moves with the eye being for next year and the year following with a healthy Dame.
 


Whoa! That's a six game road trip that lasts until January 23rd. I'm glad they're taking this seriously because rest, rehab and a cortisone shot didn't do the trick. Eager to see what the specialists have to say and where Dame goes from here.
 
blazerkor said:


Whoa! That's a six game road trip that lasts until January 23rd. I'm glad they're taking this seriously because rest, rehab and a cortisone shot didn't do the trick. Eager to see what the specialists have to say and where Dame goes from here.
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so, is he meeting with specialists?...or meeting with specialists again?

what is there about the injury that's not known at this point?
 
wizenheimer said:
so, is he meeting with specialists?...or meeting with specialists again?

what is there about the injury that's not known at this point?
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Everything I've read says that you don't get surgery on tendinopathy without a tear. They might be talking to surgeons about less used or experimental surgical procedures that could get rid of the damaged tissue for good. They might be discussing different types of treatment to try and get that tissue to heal like PRP, TENS, Ultrasound therapy and the likelihood that those would help. Maybe just how much rest and therapy might be the most before knowing that it won't work. So I'm assuming that they are looking outside of the normal approaches to this chronic injury because the initial prescribed solutions haven't worked to this point.
 
blazerkor said:
Everything I've read says that you don't get surgery on tendinopathy without a tear. They might be talking to surgeons about less used or experimental surgical procedures that could get rid of the damaged tissue for good. They might be discussing different types of treatment to try and get that tissue to heal like PRP, TENS, Ultrasound therapy and the likelihood that those would help. Maybe just how much rest and therapy might be the most before knowing that it won't work. So I'm assuming that they are looking outside of the normal approaches to this chronic injury because the initial prescribed solutions haven't worked to this point.
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I suppose that's possible. But he's been dealing with this for 4 years now so unless there is some new experimental surgery. I doubt they are considering something that hasn't been considered before

I'd wonder is the team is subtly pushing for Dame to consider surgery because of the opportunity to tank the season. Or if this is just a way to hold Dame out of more games. It may also be that Dame has been reluctant to consider surgery to this point

the impact of the cortisone shot could have worn off as well
 
blazerkor said:


Whoa! That's a six game road trip that lasts until January 23rd. I'm glad they're taking this seriously because rest, rehab and a cortisone shot didn't do the trick. Eager to see what the specialists have to say and where Dame goes from here.
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Good decision.
 
I read he will have surgery and be out for the season.
 
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