Blazers tried again to get Chris Paul

[maybeso]

According to the Bergen Record, a mega-deal involving the trades of Chris Paul and Carmelo Anthony has fallen apart. The deal would have sent Chris Paul to the Trailblazers, Devin Harris and Kris Humphries to the Hornets, Derrick Favors to Denver, and Carmelo Anthony and Andre Miller to the Nets. Apparently Portland was the team that initiated the talks,

http://network.yardbarker.com/nba/a...aul_carmelo_anthony_mega_deal_fizzles/3412799

 

[hasoos]

Yea but Cho is doing nothing according to posters on this board. So how can this possibly be true?

 

[HailBlazers]

May Be So

 

[Ed O]

Wow... there would have to be more going from Portland (Joel and/or Batum?) but... that's would be fantastic.

Who knows how accurate this kind of report is, but if Denver is the team that is dragging its heels, that's good news. Carmelo looks like he wants out, and if/when Denver realizes it (and/or gets off to a slow start this year) they might be more willing to save themselves the embarrassment that Cleveland and Toronto went through.

Ed O.

 

[Minstrel]

Miller for Paul in terms of Portland's involvement? As much as I like Miller, that's too silly to be believed.

If true, Portland must have been kicking in quite a bit more than reported.

Personally, I hope Cho is on the phone constantly with New Orleans and anyone else necessary if he thinks Paul is even slightly available.

 

[hasoos]

Miller for Paul in terms of Portland's involvement? As much as I like Miller, that's too silly to be believed.

If true, Portland must have been kicking in quite a bit more than reported.

Personally, I hope Cho is on the phone constantly with New Orleans and anyone else necessary if he thinks Paul is even slightly available.

I am trying to remember where I read about this on another site but it said a host of Blazers would move with Miller spread out amongst the teams.

 

[Rhal]

The article said Miller and a "boatload of blazers" so it wasn't just us losing miller.

 

[BGrantFan]

Yea but Cho is doing nothing according to posters on this board. So how can this possibly be true?

Well, technically, he did accomplish nothing, if this story is true.

 

[MickZagger]

Cho reportedly got the talk started? Sounds like a proactive approach as a GM to me.

 

[BBert]

Well, since Roy apparently doesn't see himself as a traditional shooting guard, and the common wisdom is he wouldn't play well with a true point guard, and Roy pretty much said as much after sharing the backcourt with Paul in his first all star game, perhaps if we were to acquire Paul we could trade Roy for Carmelo (who I personally hate)?

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, since Roy apparently doesn't see himself as a traditional shooting guard, and the common wisdom is he wouldn't play well with a true point guard, and Roy pretty much said as much after sharing the backcourt with Paul in his first all star game, perhaps if we were to acquire Paul we could trade Roy for Carmelo (who I personally hate)?

Chris Paul is a different story. If Brandon started whining with Chris Paul on the team, I think most people would quickly tell him to shut the fuck up.

 

[BGrantFan]

Cho reportedly got the talk started? Sounds like a proactive approach as a GM to me.

The former GM was known as being proactive, probably to a fault. I don't think anybody assumes that Cho is just sitting around planning the pizza toppings and finding the best specials for ABM's Greet and Meat.

 

[Natebishop3]

Again, I would love to get Paul on the Blazers. If we can lock him up without moving Roy, Aldridge, or Oden, that's pretty big. I wonder if the play of Matthews and Rudy has made a difference lately? They've both been solid so far this preseason. Does Matthews make Batum more available? Has Rudy upped his value? Makes me wonder...

 

[BGrantFan]

Chris Paul is a different story. If Brandon started whining with Chris Paul on the team, I think most people would quickly tell him to shut the fuck up.

Absolutely. I have to think that Roy looks at Andre Miller, and how he is supposed to defer to him, and wonders what the fuck his coach is thinking. If Roy bitched with Chris Paul in Portland, that would be a completely different scenario in terms of how I would feel about Roy's recent comments.

 

[BGrantFan]

Again, I would love to get Paul on the Blazers. If we can lock him up without moving Roy, Aldridge, or Oden, that's pretty big. I wonder if the play of Matthews and Rudy has made a difference lately? They've both been solid so far this preseason. Does Matthews make Batum more available? Has Rudy upped his value? Makes me wonder...

Or, has Matthews made Roy available?

As for Rudy, until he states he now wants to stay in the NBA, I don't think it matters how well he plays. Sitting out two years probably wouldn't be smart, but sitting out one year (the final year of his contract) isn't that big of a loss for him if he really does want to play for Real Madrid.

 

[Natebishop3]

Or, has Matthews made Roy available?

As for Rudy, until he states he now wants to stay in the NBA, I don't think it matters how well he plays. Sitting out two years probably wouldn't be smart, but sitting out one year (the final year of his contract) isn't that big of a loss for him if he really does want to play for Real Madrid.

I think it was a bluff on his part. I don't think Rudy wants to go back to Europe. I think he wants to go to a team of his liking, and he's trying to use Europe as his trump card.

Maybe Matthews does make Roy available for the right price. Hard to say what Cho is thinking right now, but if Roy's name were involved, I think it would have been mentioned in that article. That would be too big to slip through the cracks.

 

[BBert]

Or, has Matthews made Roy available?

Ha! Pretty hilarious if Roy were traded in tandem with Miller.

 

[Natebishop3]

Ha! Pretty hilarious if Roy were traded in tandem with Miller.

I would rather see Roy and Paul playing together, but if Brandon is sticking to his guns about having the ball in his hands, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for CP3.

 

[BGrantFan]

I would rather see Roy and Paul playing together, but if Brandon is sticking to his guns about having the ball in his hands, I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for CP3.

Everything I know about Roy tells me he'd be thrilled to have an elite offensive PG who can defend, and not a solid one who plays Ole'! defense.

 

[Natebishop3]

Everything I know about Roy tells me he'd be thrilled to have an elite offensive PG who can defend, and not a solid one who plays Ole'! defense.

Hey, like I said, I would LOVE to see those two playing together. I think it would be the best backcourt in the NBA hands down.

 

[Minstrel]

Everything I know about Roy tells me he'd be thrilled to have an elite offensive PG who can defend, and not a solid one who plays Ole'! defense.

I'm not sure defense is a major point of emphasis with Roy. If it were, he'd probably play some defense himself.

 

[Sex Panther]

Would you guys trade Roy for Paul straight up?

And this rumor sounds stupid. Portland giving nothing up to get a top 5 player in the NBA. Portland (again) wins this lopsided deal. And just Favors to Denver? Denver could get much more than a non-proven Josh Smith/Amare Stoudamire-lite.

 

[Blazinaway]

Would you guys trade Roy for Paul straight up?

And this rumor sounds stupid. Portland giving nothing up to get a top 5 player in the NBA. Portland (again) wins this lopsided deal. And just Favors to Denver? Denver could get much more than a non-proven Josh Smith/Amare Stoudamire-lite.

Yes, with Wes onboard we are built to run IMO, Rudy would love playing with Paul and Batum and LMA would we incredible on the break. I would do it.

 

[Minstrel]

Would you guys trade Roy for Paul straight up?

Yes, without question. I'd love to see them play together, but I'd prefer Paul if it's one or the other.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Would you guys trade Roy for Paul straight up?

And this rumor sounds stupid. Portland giving nothing up to get a top 5 player in the NBA. Portland (again) wins this lopsided deal. And just Favors to Denver? Denver could get much more than a non-proven Josh Smith/Amare Stoudamire-lite.

Read it again. It said Miller and a bunch of (unnamed) Blazers going out with just Paul coming back, so who knows what kind of talent "we" give up.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Would you guys trade Roy for Paul straight up?

And this rumor sounds stupid. Portland giving nothing up to get a top 5 player in the NBA. Portland (again) wins this lopsided deal. And just Favors to Denver? Denver could get much more than a non-proven Josh Smith/Amare Stoudamire-lite.

Only if Paul agreed to an extention.

Even then the homer part of me is torn. Blazers wanted to clean up their image and have players the community could get behind. Roy practically defines the kind of Ptd player you want on and off the court . . . but we are talking CP and can't pass on him if it is long term.

 

[Natebishop3]

Only if Paul agreed to an extention.

Even then the homer part of me is torn. Blazers wanted to clean up their image and have players the community could get behind. Roy practically defines the kind of Ptd player you want on and off the court . . . but we are talking CP and can't pass on him if it is long term.

And Chris Paul isn't? That guy has a squeaky clean image.

 

[MARIS61]

The article said Miller and a "boatload of blazers" so it wasn't just us losing miller.

Where?

 

[andalusian]

The article said Miller and a "boatload of blazers" so it wasn't just us losing miller.

Where?

The Port of Kalama.

 

[espn_hall_of_famer]

I am trying to remember where I read about this on another site but it said a host of Blazers would move with Miller spread out amongst the teams.

I think it was one of the New York or NJ beat writers that had more details on the trade.

I would guess if we're getting CP3, we're losing Miller, Batum and likely Joel's contract.

With New Orleans losing CP3 and having already traded Collison, I wouldn't be surprised if the "boatload" was because we also had Bayless in there so New Orleans could have Devin Harris and Bayless at PG. Denver would likely have needed Batum and Favors to part with Melo. Blazers and NJ are fine getting Melo and CP3, so that's probably about how it would have gone down to have all sides happy and us to lose a "boatload" as stated in that NJ paper.