Blazers vs. Minnesota Game Thread

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Minstrel said:
I'm not forgetting that. I'm pointing out that it hasn't actually led to better team performance.

Hitting three-pointers is definitely Blake's strength. If he couldn't do that, he really wouldn't be NBA-caliber. Miller is better overall. The idea was that Blake's shooting was somehow more important to THIS offense than Miller's overall betterness...but it isn't as if the team looks any more efficient or powerful on offense when Blake starts.
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A) Blake is the one getting it to Oden

B) We got our big lead at the top of the game because of Blake's shooting.

So...

C) Blake should be starting.
 
andalusian said:
The offense looked crisp before Roy and Miller started playing together. We were up 21-10 when Blake went out with 2:40 left in Q1. Roy played all his minutes with Miller since.
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Yes, you do like using small sample sizes to make large points, but that's not very compelling. A lot of things change over the course of the game, the +/- for a player over a selected stretch of game isn't meaningful at all. Over this season, the team hasn't looked any crisper with Blake running the point. I'd say the best the team has looked (in short spurts) has been with Miller. So far, those have been isolated periods of player, but it would be nice to give the team a chance to gel with Miller rather than every other game decide that the "Miller experiment" isn't working and it's time to disrupt it all again.
 
Blake is our best player tonight and yet so many people in this forum hate him.
 
Do all of the Blazers have worms or something? They don't seem to be very interested in playing basketball.

Now Martell is heating up...
 
Blake racking up assists and making sure Oden gets the ball every time down the floor. The same people who hate Blake complain that Oden doesn't get the ball enough, but Blake is repeatedly getting Oden the ball.
 
Minstrel said:
Yes, you do like using small sample sizes to make large points, but that's not very compelling. A lot of things change over the course of the game, the +/- for a player over a selected stretch of game isn't meaningful at all. Over this season, the team hasn't looked any crisper with Blake running the point. I'd say the best the team has looked (in short spurts) has been with Miller. So far, those have been isolated periods of player, but it would be nice to give the team a chance to gel with Miller rather than every other game decide that the "Miller experiment" isn't working and it's time to disrupt it all again.
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Excuse me? You are the one telling us that the new line-up is not making the team look any better. Allow me to refresh your memory:

Minstrel said:
This game certainly isn't making that case. The offense has been pretty weak and Roy is having another lackluster game.
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Why can you make observations about small data samples and I can not?

As for how the team looks, in my opinion, this team looks best when there is a lot of spacing and Brandon Roy initiates the ball most of the time. Unfortunately, that does not happen with Miller that often.
 
MM- you still hate Blake? He's been the one who is constantly getting the ball to Oden, your primary concern.
 
Blake getting the ball to the right people. Totally controlling this game.
 
andalusian said:
Excuse me? You are the one telling us that the new line-up is not making the team look any better. Allow me to refresh your memory:



Why can you make observations about small data samples and I can not?
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I was responding to your implication that Blake as the "better point guard for Roy" was being borne out. Let me refresh your memory:

andalusian said:
Blake isn't even the best PG on the team. But he is the best playing next to Roy, it seems.
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...in the midst of Portland scoring 40 points for a half and Roy scoring as inefficiently as ever. It didn't "seem" that way at all. I don't believe in using small data sets for meaningful conclusions, but it struck me as particularly odd that you were doing so when that small data set really didn't seem to be bearing your conclusion out at all.

As for how the team looks, in my opinion, this team looks best when there is a lot of spacing and Brandon Roy initiates the ball most of the time. Unfortunately, that does not happen with Miller that often.
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Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. The few times when the Blazers have pushed the pace with Miller as point guard, the team has looked the best on offense, in my opinion.
 
Hey Blake Haters! There's lots of crow to go around. Oden didn't get wide open dunks all by himself.
 
Minstrel said:
I was responding to your implication that Blake as the "better point guard for Roy" was being borne out. Let me refresh your memory:



...in the midst of Portland scoring 40 points for a half and Roy scoring as inefficiently as ever. It didn't "seem" that way at all. I don't believe in using small data sets for meaningful conclusions, but it struck me as particularly odd that you were doing so when that small data set really didn't seem to be bearing your conclusion out at all.



Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. The few times when the Blazers have pushed the pace with Miller as point guard, the team has looked the best on offense, in my opinion.
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That's not true. Our offense is best with Blake. We got off to a good start because of Blake's threes. Then, in the third, he set Oden up for wide open dunks. Then he set Webster up for wide open threes. Then he got Roy going.
 
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