Game Thread Blazers VS Warriors OCT 4th, 7:00 PM

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illmatic99 said:
well they should be concerned since they were below us last year even with all OUR injuries.
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CJ played in more games than Lebron; and Nurkic played in more games than AD

and of course, the impact of Lebron and AD is much greater than that of CJ and Nurkic, yet the Lakers posted the same record as Portland

the only Portland advantage there is that CJ's pretty durable...the other 3 guys aren't
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not as concerned about the starters right now. The concern is the bench. That has been the concern since we first heard that our big signings were Zeller, McLemore, and Snell. The bench was relying heavily on Ant and Simons taking a step forward. That still might happen, but we haven't seen either of them really take a big step yet.
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Do we have two ant simons? Lol. Or did you mean Little?
 
Mr. Robot said:
nurk is trash, id trade him for anything

last nights game was not a good sign
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It wasn't a sign at all! It was literally the first 12 minutes they've played in months that was real competition.
 
illmatic99 said:
just fyi, the calendar says 2021, not 2011.
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I totally get and understand why people bring up the age situation. It will obviously play its part. But they have so many guys who’ve been there to step up in limited action to help. I think it’s going to work.
 
THE HCP said:
I totally get and understand why people bring up the age situation. It will obviously play its part. But they have so many guys who’ve been there to step up in limited action to help. I think it’s going to work.
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.... until they go 12-18 after 30 games. GM Lebron is gonna take a sabbatical and start wheeling and dealing again. i think his buddy Melo is gonna be off that team come March.
 
illmatic99 said:
.... until they go 12-18 after 30 games. GM Lebron is gonna take a sabbatical and start wheeling and dealing again. i think his buddy Melo is gonna be off that team come March.
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I think Melo will accept his role. Dude has changed. Knows his career is coming to an end. I think it’s time in Portland really helped him out.
 
THE HCP said:
We will miss Melo and Kanter’s ability to put points on the board regardless of what people think about their D. At least they scored. Not sure I feel the same about our current bench.
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You need players on the bench who can score, and players who can defend. Bench players who can do both are in fairly short supply.

Lumping Kanter and Melo together is, IMHO, a mistake. Both are poor defenders, but one is a both a much better rebounder and a more efficient scorer. My prediction is that Kanter will do just fine in Boston, while Melo plays more minutes than he possibly deserves in LA and is a net negative for them. I also think we will miss Kanter before all is said and done.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not as concerned about the starters right now. The concern is the bench. That has been the concern since we first heard that our big signings were Zeller, McLemore, and Snell. The bench was relying heavily on Ant and Simons taking a step forward. That still might happen, but we haven't seen either of them really take a big step yet.
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You know what would make our bench shine? CJ coming off it.
 
I really didn't see any change. I know it is one game, and a preseason game at that, but if it weren't for them showing Billups a hundred times on the bench I would have swore it was the same system. A lot of one-on-one, a lot of sloppy passes, and very few fast breaks.

As far as players go:

Little was so hyped which I knew was a bad sign. That usually is meant to give a guy confidence like saying he is in the best shape of his life. It is always words and Little looked exactly like the same guy unfortunately. I mean there is a reason he wasn't a Top 15 Pick. The game is too fast for him right now and may always be.

McLemore looked lost and wasn't comfortable handling the ball to setup the offense. They need to limit him to his role which will give him the most value.

Zeller is what he has always been. Solid backup, limited offensively.

Nance Jr. looked like Kevin Love to me and that isn't a compliment. He looked older and slower. It is early though.

Chriss intrigues me as a big with athleticism. Same with Smith. Elleby I have yet to understand. Simons will be hot and cold all season. Didn't look any different.

Again, it is one reason game and conditioning could have been a factor, but the lack of change in team play both offensively and defensively worries me the most. Not sure what I was expecting, but it didn't happen whatever that was.
 
After watching last nights pre-season loss to GSW, I checked out the 2021-22 NBA regular season standings, and yep,
(Optimist) We're in first place!
(Pessimist) We're dead last.

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Although overall it was a pretty ugly game, the Brown III dunk was almost worth the price of admission.

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Wow!
 

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THE HCP said:
I think Melo will accept his role. Dude has changed. Knows his career is coming to an end. I think it’s time in Portland really helped him out.
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His role is watching the NBA on his TV at home at this point.
 
42N8Bounce said:
Although overall it was a pretty ugly game, the Brown III dunk was almost worth the price of admission.
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Have a feeling we'll be saying that a lot this year. Brown will only play in blowouts, but I have a feeling we'll be on the wrong end of a few.
 
THE HCP said:
We will miss Melo and Kanter’s ability to put points on the board regardless of what people think about their D. At least they scored. Not sure I feel the same about our current bench.
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said it all along…

:gtfo:
 
Tince said:
Serious questions: What are your expectations of this team? Most "dooms day" people on here seem to think we're a playoff team.
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100% think we are playoff team. I could see us 2nd round but probably not much better without some significant trade. Still one player away bench is better though
 
Tince said:
His stats were good. I think he'll have some 25/15/7 games that are top shelf.

I suspect we'll see the same engagement we saw when he was traded to Portland and felt he had something to prove. I just don't know that's sustainable for a season. Lets hope it is!
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I think it's sustainable when the system engages other players and when Nurkic isn't tasked with covering his teammates who aren't held accountable defensively while he gets chewed out and has play in a bogus defensive scheme that obviously doesn't work on a permanent basis.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
100% think we are playoff team. I could see us 2nd round but probably not much better without some significant trade. Still one player away bench is better though
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I'm with you 100% on this take. Seems like a very reasonable expectation to me.

Feels like this outcome is one of the few things this board generally all agrees on.
 
BonesJones said:
I think it's sustainable when the system engages other players and when Nurkic isn't tasked with covering his teammates who aren't held accountable defensively while he gets chewed out and has play in a bogus defensive scheme that obviously doesn't work on a permanent basis.
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1) I hope you're right.
2) I love this optimistic version of you!
 
THE HCP said:
We will miss Melo and Kanter’s ability to put points on the board regardless of what people think about their D. At least they scored. Not sure I feel the same about our current bench.
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Kanter and Zeller scored at the same rate last year.

Melo wasn't efficient and didn't take quality shots outside of spot-up threes. Turning his looks into higher quality looks for the rest of the team will help us put more points on the board, not less.
 
BonesJones said:
Kanter and Zeller scored at the same rate last year.
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it close, but Kanter was a little better

the difference was Kanter created his own offense, mostly from the offensive glass. Zeller didn't. Kanter had a 46% assisted FG rate; Zeller was at 76%

and in all the talk about Zeller's better defense, what isn't mentioned is Kanter's significant advantage in defensive rebounding; 32% vs 23%. Securing a missed shot is that last step of a successful defensive possession
 
I just watched the highlights they have long was to be a good defense team. But I am really worried about after 1 preseason game. But you can look against the pick and roll but if you don't have a good rotation it's going give a lot open shots as I seen on the tape. Offense still need more movement with the ball and players. Still running the offense out around the 3 point line.
 
1 Eye Jack said:
100% think we are playoff team. I could see us 2nd round but probably not much better without some significant trade. Still one player away bench is better though
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A 2nd round team….. with THIS roster???
 
Tince said:
I'm with you 100% on this take. Seems like a very reasonable expectation to me.

Feels like this outcome is one of the few things this board generally all agrees on.
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Sir, are we drunk posting again?
 
BonesJones said:
Kanter and Zeller scored at the same rate last year.

Melo wasn't efficient and didn't take quality shots outside of spot-up threes. Turning his looks into higher quality looks for the rest of the team will help us put more points on the board, not less.
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But doesn’t Zeller have a history of missing games?
 
BBert said:
Yeah and my DVR always, every single time, records whatever broadcast is blacked out instead of the Blazers broadcast.
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Well I’m sure the black screen is better than whatever #FuckingBlazerBroadcasting is showing right?
 
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