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Yeah, that sucks about Karl, but he was a former Laker...
 
Maybe they'll bring back Coby Karl once the league approves the Elliott Williams DSE.

Or, maybe they'll use the DSE for someone who gets cut by another team. The most they can offer is a 1-year deal at $721,440 (half of Williams' salary). It's not like they are going to get a stud at that price.

BNM
 
hmm, the smart thing ma be to wait and see who else in the league gets cut. May be a better player than Karl available..
 
DaLincolnJones said:
hmm, the smart thing ma be to wait and see who else in the league gets cut. May be a better player than Karl available..
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Yep, they have to wait for the league to approve the DSE anyway. Might as well use the wait to see what else is out there.

BNM
 
Karl is better than Price.

Price really came in here to mentor Lil and probably wouldn't be in the league right now if not for that connection. But with Nolan's progression, or lack of, all of a sudden Price is the back up PG.

As if Lillard didn't have enough pressure, the Blazers don't really have another viable PG.
 
Treaty_of_Batum said:
Karl is better than Price.

Price really came in here to mentor Lil and probably wouldn't be in the league right now if not for that connection. But with Nolan's progression, or lack of, all of a sudden Price is the back up PG.

As if Lillard didn't have enough pressure, the Blazers don't really have another viable PG.
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That might be a good thing. Young guys are always worried about making mistakes and being taken out.... well.... Lillard doesn't have to worry about being taken out :grin:
 
Alas, poor Ammo! I knew him, Horatio; a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy; he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! My gorge rises at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? Your gambols? Your songs? Your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar?

barfo
 
lol, Allen being cheap again....

What a horrific bench...Nolan, Price, Pavlovic, Babbitt & Jeffries are a bunch of scrubs...combined with a bunch of unproven rookies in Claver, Freeland, Barton & Leonard...and chronically injured E-Will

What a mess of a team....
 
Blaze01 said:
lol, Allen being cheap again....

What a horrific bench...Nolan, Price, Pavlovic, Babbitt & Jeffries are a bunch of scrubs...combined with a bunch of unproven rookies in Claver, Freeland, Barton & Leonard...and chronically injured E-Will

What a mess of a team....
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It's a mess if you want to compete in the playoffs.

If you want to stockpile the team with as many young guys as you can get your hands on, and then throw in some crappy vets so those young guys have lots of space to assert roles, it ain't that bad really.

Try to remember that Portland is still reeling from the loss of two franchise-level players without any compensation. If the Spurs woke up one day to find they'd lost Parker and Duncan, they'd still be a trainwreck a year and probably two years later. Ditto Westbrook and Durant, or Paul/Griffin, or whatever team you want. It just sucks.

I wish we'd drafted Faried (so do about 20 other teams), but overall you look at those guys on the team and it's not a shock we're stuck with some crummy young players. Barton, Smith, Claver, Babbitt and Freeland are all non-lotto picks. So they're reasonably young, but also not picked from the cream of the crop. Just given where they were chosen, at best maybe two of them will have serviceable careers.

Leonard, the only guy I'm terribly optimistic about on our bench, is also the only lotto pick on that bench.

It's a bad bench, but it's not really a "mess of a team." Last year was a mess, where we built around vets to try to get to the playoffs and just failed. This year the goal is to develop young guys (and if it turns out they suck, get a good lotto pick), and I think the team is reasonably well-composed to accomplish that goal.
 
Blaze01 said:
lol, Allen being cheap again....

What a horrific bench...Nolan, Price, Pavlovic, Babbitt & Jeffries are a bunch of scrubs...combined with a bunch of unproven rookies in Claver, Freeland, Barton & Leonard...and chronically injured E-Will

What a mess of a team....
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Give them a chance. They haven't even played one meaningful game together yet.

mook said:
It's a mess if you want to compete in the playoffs.

If you want to stockpile the team with as many young guys as you can get your hands on, and then throw in some crappy vets so those young guys have lots of space to assert roles, it ain't that bad really.

Try to remember that Portland is still reeling from the loss of two franchise-level players without any compensation. If the Spurs woke up one day to find they'd lost Parker and Duncan, they'd still be a trainwreck a year and probably two years later. Ditto Westbrook and Durant, or Paul/Griffin, or whatever team you want. It just sucks.

I wish we'd drafted Faried (so do about 20 other teams), but overall you look at those guys on the team and it's not a shock we're stuck with some crummy young players. Barton, Smith, Claver, Babbitt and Freeland are all non-lotto picks.
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Wasn't Babbitt a lotto pick by Minnesota?
 
mook said:
It's a mess if you want to compete in the playoffs.

If you want to stockpile the team with as many young guys as you can get your hands on, and then throw in some crappy vets so those young guys have lots of space to assert roles, it ain't that bad really.

Try to remember that Portland is still reeling from the loss of two franchise-level players without any compensation. If the Spurs woke up one day to find they'd lost Parker and Duncan, they'd still be a trainwreck a year and probably two years later. Ditto Westbrook and Durant, or Paul/Griffin, or whatever team you want. It just sucks.

I wish we'd drafted Faried (so do about 20 other teams), but overall you look at those guys on the team and it's not a shock we're stuck with some crummy young players. Barton, Smith, Claver, Babbitt and Freeland are all non-lotto picks. So they're reasonably young, but also not picked from the cream of the crop. Just given where they were chosen, at best maybe two of them will have serviceable careers.

Leonard, the only guy I'm terribly optimistic about on our bench, is also the only lotto pick on that bench.

It's a bad bench, but it's not really a "mess of a team." Last year was a mess, where we built around vets to try to get to the playoffs and just failed. This year the goal is to develop young guys (and if it turns out they suck, get a good lotto pick), and I think the team is reasonably well-composed to accomplish that goal.
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Yes it does suck about Karl, he does belong in the NBA but I also understand why the Blazers let him go.I think most of us can agree that we would rather have Karl over Smith but Smith is the player that is already on the team. Not to mention as nice of player Karl might be I don't think he would have generated the Blazers more wins. They will be a 30-35 win team regardless.
 
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Everybody suck it up and stop crying about Karl, a very minor-level talent. Besides, he'll be back in a month when Lillard gets his annual season-ending injury.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Why didn't they waive Elliot Williams?
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No need to. They've applied for a Disabled Player Exception, which they should receive. They have to pay him the same, and he counts the same against the cap, whether they keep him, cut him or get the DSE. The advantage to the DSE is it frees up a roster spot to sign a guy like Coby Karl, or whoever, to a one year contract. It also gives the Blazers time to figure out how well Williams' rehab goes and if he's worth keeping around longer. There's really no downside to keeping him on the roster this season - assuming the league grants the DSE (don't know why they wouldn't).

BNM
 
TRAIL BLAZERS WAIVE FIVE PLAYERS
Portland requests waivers on Harper, Holiday, Karl, Lauderdale and Morrison

PORTLAND, Ore. – The Portland Trail Blazers have requested waivers on Demonte Harper, Justin Holiday, Coby Karl, Dallas Lauderdale and Adam Morrison, it was announced today by General Manager Neil Olshey.

Karl averaged 4.8 points, 1.3 rebounds, 2.0 assists and 11.8 minutes in four preseason games.

Morrison posted averages of 3.2 points, 1.4 rebounds, 0.6 assists and 11.4 minutes in five games.

Harper logged four minutes in three games, Harper played six minutes in two contests and Lauderdale tallied six minutes in three games this preseason.

With today’s transactions, the Trail Blazers roster stands at 15 players entering the regular season.
 
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